Texas.Redneck
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Obviously, I read some article that said Prozac is good estrogen blocker too.
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Obviously, I read some article that said Prozac is good estrogen blocker too.
DonQKong
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I am afraid you are going to die. But then again, it may be the tren causing my anxiety. Actually, I am afraid. Full stop. D
movingiron88
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Dude you are still missing the point. It is not that running nolva on cycle is controversial, it is coming to a forum asking advice and not digesting the information you are given. Everyone's body is different. I convert test to estrogen very easily and am estrogen sensitive. I would absolutely need an ai. And if I was really blasting I might even add nolva to the equation until I got mid cycle bloods. Stop being such a know it all and take the advice given. If not beat it and go talk to John doe only.
Texas.Redneck
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Noted. I just like stirring the pot some on forums like this because people get so crazy. So bottom line is I have the Anastrozle on hand for sides. I'm going to start with Nolva 2mg a day and see how that manages this estrogen deal. And I'll check in with you all when my nipples start getting itchy and my man boobs pop and you all can tell me how to do damage control with the AI. I'm not too concerned. I mean c'mon, I'm doing 500mg a week of test for 10 weeks and I'm 37 years old. I can't imagine I completely destroy by body and grow tits and go completely bald but who knows. You mess with fire you get burned sometimes right?
movingiron88
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Hopefully it is just a typo on the 2mg a day. If I was not running an ai I would go for 20mg. If in conjunction with an ai I would go 10mg.
Texas.Redneck
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So for a cycle checkin:
My trainer used some electronic machine today to measure bodyfat percentage and i was at 13%. he said he wants to get that down below 10%.
So then my trainer wanted to measure my cardio capacity so we did the basic CrossFit Fran as prescribed. I did it in 7:30seconds full chest to bar kipping pullups. (don't judge me I AM NOT A CROSSFITTER). I just train for general athleticism and bad assness.
As noted above, I did my first pin of 250mg Sunday at noon and I was feeling pretty jacked yesterday (just freaking wired like I could go out and beat some ass). Could have totally been placebo affect but I'm back to normal today.
My trainer used some electronic machine today to measure bodyfat percentage and i was at 13%. he said he wants to get that down below 10%.
So then my trainer wanted to measure my cardio capacity so we did the basic CrossFit Fran as prescribed. I did it in 7:30seconds full chest to bar kipping pullups. (don't judge me I AM NOT A CROSSFITTER). I just train for general athleticism and bad assness.
As noted above, I did my first pin of 250mg Sunday at noon and I was feeling pretty jacked yesterday (just freaking wired like I could go out and beat some ass). Could have totally been placebo affect but I'm back to normal today.
Texas.Redneck
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No typo. That was my original question in the original thread. I have legit real life Veterans who don't nerd out on some forum providing me this advice. So I have to trust them more than all the internet forum guys. They say crush up your 10mg pill and spread it out daily approximately 1-2mg a day. They say any more than that will diminish gains.
But I'm not idiot and that was my original question after all before everyone started wigging out because I was so crazy for not using my AI's. So now that you said that I will reconsider if I just want to pop 1-10mg Nolva pill a day during my whole cycle....
Texas.Redneck
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BTW, is this forum mostly bodybuilders still leaving the dream of Arnold, Ronnie Coleman, Jay Cutler, etc. from all those bodybuilding mags we read when we were kids? Or are there legit athletes on here? MMA guys, collegiate athletes, etc....
I have to kind of know where everyone is coming from so I can gauge how much to trust their advice...
As if someone can't just lie to you and say they're whoever you want em to be. You should prob just trust the "legit real life veterans" who told u to snort one tenth of your crushed up 10 mg nolva daily. I hope you're joking ...
Texas.Redneck
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LOL. If I knew how to do an emoji on this forum I would have given you a thumbs up sir.
Texas.Redneck
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Actually, I wasn't really joking. Just trying to sift through the dudes on here that are living that dream of being the next jacked Mr. Oympia and wearing bikini briefs on stage with spray tan. Judging by that pic on your profile, you strike me as the strongman type which I totally respect. My body build was never conducive to this as I've always been on a smaller frame and hardgainer. I found my niche with MMA and Olympic weightlifting.
Anyways, my point is there's a difference between dudes pulling semi trucks down the street and lifting 1000lb stones (i.e. strongmen) versus the bodybuilders doing this for aesthetic purposes to strike poses on stage in his thong underwear...but just my opinion. To each their own I guess.
Texas.Redneck
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I'm convinced now to just take my Anastrozle. I'll quit arguing.... So for this 500mg/week test cycle that I am already in week 1 and plan to run for 10 weeks, you all want me start my Anastrozle 0.5mg eod? Basically textbook on cycle AI, right?
It just seemed to me like flushing money down the toilet to take the expensive Anastrozle on a cycle when I've read several places don't even worry about estrogen control on 500mg/week of Test (only 10 weeks let me remind you...). But if all you veterans are telling me freaking do it I'll go ahead and do it.
I have a 13 week supply of 600mg Test and 600mg EQ premixed in lab that I was saving for Fall or next Spring. That was what I was going to save my Anastrozle for. But I can just quit being cheap and just get my hands on some more Arimidex or Aromisin in the future....
Let me know everyone's final thoughts.
Texas.Redneck
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Also, can you all tell me what physical affects and sides I should expect? I'm not talking about Nolva or AI or any of that anymore. Just talk me through what to expect going through this 10 weeks of 500mg Test. I know it is a slow ester and I should really feel it kick in in 2-3 weeks. I swear I had some moments this week I was feeling completely jacked. Like I would be at work or driving home and I felt like I could go out and beat some ass. So I don't know if that is placebo effect or what. I do think it's speeding my recovery time already. That crossfit workout my trainer had me do yesterday morning normally completely destroys my biceps and lats from the high volume pullups and they were not nearly as sore the day after as in the past (let me reiterate I'm not a crossfitter....I just throw in some of the WOD's every once in a while for cardio)..
Texas.Redneck
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thanks
Texas.Redneck
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.5 eod? Can those things be broken into 1/4's so I can pop daily and keep an even bloodstream of it...
.5 e2d is just fine
Texas.Redneck
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is every second day (e2d) the same as every other day (eod)?
Like tne said, you can start at week 3 if u want. And .5 eod is a good starting range. Not enough to really crash estro and plenty to keep u in check till mid cycle bloodwork if you are estro sensitive. Once u get mid cycle bloods around 6 weeks, u can adjust dose up or down and from then on u have an idea of how much you aromatize for that level of testosterone. As far as what you're gonna feel, it's not all u think in my opinion. There's no "high feeling" or anything. These are hormones. It's just different. U may have some more aggression. For me it's all apparent in the gym around week 5ish on the amount your doing. Start getting really in the zone when I lift. More eager to fuck my girl when I get home, and by more eager I mean it's serious. My libido is high off gear. And then before I even realize the weight on the scale is going up and everything I lift just gets oddly lighter haha. But mostly it's hard to explain. At least that's how it is for me. Your mileage may vary.
Texas.Redneck
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So turns out I may have some low grade quality gear with high benzyl alcohol preservative. Some of you may have seen my post about the ingrown hair on my quad the day after injection. So the next shot I did in my glute exactly 84 hours later and it did the exact same thing. First 12-24 hours no pain at all. And then about 24 hours after injection and for approximately 48 hours (or two days) swollen painful to the touch kind of limping around to get in and out of bed and Truck. And then around 72-96 hours (or 3-4 days) all the pain and inflamation subsides. So I researched it and read an article on T-Nation about the BA content in the gear and he described the exact reaction I am having.
So the question is whether I just need to man up and deal with it or if the gear is actually doing damage to my muscles (like scar tissue and the like)?
So the question is whether I just need to man up and deal with it or if the gear is actually doing damage to my muscles (like scar tissue and the like)?
