Impact of Primobolan on blood tests

[Deivids]

Good morning team.

The endocrinologist recently prescribed me a TRT therapy and, obviously, he wants to monitor me through frequent tests.

My question is that if I decide to add about 400 mg of Primobolan a week to the therapy for 12 weeks… would it change my blood tests? that is, would the Doctor notice something strange by altering some value of the blood test?

Especially one of these:

Total Testosterone
Free Testosterone
FSH
LH
Estradiol
SHBG
prolactin
Progesterone
cortisol
DHEA

I imagine that I will not be the first nor the last to be seen in a similar situation, that is why I am asking, to see how you have handled the situation with your dictor.

If you know that it alters some other parameter that I have not mentioned, I would also appreciate it if a colleague could comment on it.

I am using Google translator, if there is any section in which I have not explained myself well, you can tell me.

Thank you very much in advance.

Greetings!

 

[Rido]

It cut my e2 to be very low with that being said. It would reduce your hdl levels

 

[Jin23]

Good morning team.

The endocrinologist recently prescribed me a TRT therapy and, obviously, he wants to monitor me through frequent tests.

My question is that if I decide to add about 400 mg of Primobolan a week to the therapy for 12 weeks… would it change my blood tests? that is, would the Doctor notice something strange by altering some value of the blood test?

Especially one of these:

Total Testosterone
Free Testosterone
FSH
LH
Estradiol
SHBG
prolactin
Progesterone
cortisol
DHEA

I imagine that I will not be the first nor the last to be seen in a similar situation, that is why I am asking, to see how you have handled the situation with your dictor.

If you know that it alters some other parameter that I have not mentioned, I would also appreciate it if a colleague could comment on it.

I am using Google translator, if there is any section in which I have not explained myself well, you can tell me.

Thank you very much in advance.

Greetings!

SHBG would be way down, in the single digits.

If you are using hcg it would be less effective and thus progesterone and dhea would be lower.

Hematocrit would shoot up. This would be the biggest alarm for your endo.

Hdl would get substantially lowered and ldl would rise.

Honestly, just your normal on cycle results.

 

[Deivids]

Thanks for your answer @Jin23

Excuse me for asking you a few questions because, when translating the text you have written with Google, there are some phrases that I do not understand or do not make much sense.

In my case, yes I am going to introduce HCG. I don't understand what you mean, would it be good or bad to introduce HCG? I would like to use it to prevent testicular atrophy, but is it bad to mix it with Primobolan??

The endocrine has several blood tests on me before using any substance.
You tell me that SHBG will drop quite a bit... is this good or bad? If I only used Testosterone, wouldn't SHBG be reduced?

And the same question for progesterone and DHEA... if I only used Testosterone, wouldn't the levels drop?

I have also read other colleagues who only use Testosterone and their Hematocrit levels also rise without using any other substance...

And your last sentence: "Honestly, just your normal on cycle results" I haven't been able to translate it well or make sense of it. What do you mean?

Thanks again!

Greetings!

 

[Deivids]

It cut my e2 to be very low with that being said. It would reduce your hdl levels

Thanks @Cridi887

I understand that this would not be a very exaggerated alarm for the doctor, right?

What I mean is that the doctor does not have to think that these 2 altered values are a consequence of using other steroids.

I'm right??

 

[Trapjunky]

You will notice Lower HDL, Higher LDL... Lower SHBG.. Lower Estradiol. How much HCG are u using? Ive noticed 250Iu-500Iu of HCG Weekly keep my DHEA in range.
High RBC and Hematocrit can be combated with therapeutic phlebotomy or donation so no worries there.

 

[Deivids]

You will notice Lower HDL, Higher LDL... Lower SHBG.. Lower Estradiol. How much HCG are u using? Ive noticed 250Iu-500Iu of HCG Weekly keep my DHEA in range.
High RBC and Hematocrit can be combated with therapeutic phlebotomy or donation so no worries there.

Thanks @Trapjunky !

HCG will be 500 iu per week spread over 2 injections (Monday 250 + Thursday 250)

I have noticed that you also mention that SHBG levels will drop but is this bad?? I mean, what's the difference between having high or low SHBG? What benefits or harms each thing?

And in your opinion, are those data that you mention that Primobolan will alter, enough for the doctor to suspect that I am using something other than testosterone?

This worries me because he is a very serious man and somewhat old. I don't want him to take me off TRT because he suspects I'm using other compounds.

Thanks a lot !

 

[Trapjunky]

Your HCG protocol is spot on. Sounds great. As for the SHBG, the lower it is the more likely your free testosterone will be higher. (Meaning more available testosterone available for your bodies muscle tissue) although lower SHGB can be indicative to higher LDL and higher total cholesterol (which is to be expected when adding additional aas). Fish Oil, Krill Oil.. and Citrus Bergamot can help combat this although Id prefer to use Ezetamibe 10mg if my LDL is high enough. Preferably you want SHBG between 25-40 any lower your Doc might notice. How often are u to be taking blood tests for this Doctor? All in a all Id keep my eyes on Free and Total testosterone.. and SHBG if u worried about ur doc noticing. As far as the Health markers go they are easily excusable.

 

[Deivids]

Your HCG protocol is spot on. Sounds great. As for the SHBG, the lower it is the more likely your free testosterone will be higher. (Meaning more available testosterone available for your bodies muscle tissue) although lower SHGB can be indicative to higher LDL and higher total cholesterol (which is to be expected when adding additional aas). Fish Oil, Krill Oil.. and Citrus Bergamot can help combat this although Id prefer to use Ezetamibe 10mg if my LDL is high enough. Preferably you want SHBG between 25-40 any lower your Doc might notice. How often are u to be taking blood tests for this Doctor? All in a all Id keep my eyes on Free and Total testosterone.. and SHBG if u worried about ur doc noticing. As far as the Health markers go they are easily excusable.

Once again, thank you so much @Trapjunky

So far, the Doctor has performed 3 blood tests on me.

I put the results here:



I don't know why, in the last test my SHBG level was very high.

In those 3 tests, I have never taken any steroids. I haven't started TRT yet. It's a little weird...

 

[Trapjunky]

Once again, thank you so much @Trapjunky

So far, the Doctor has performed 3 blood tests on me.

I put the results here:

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I don't know why, in the last test my SHBG level was very high.

In those 3 tests, I have never taken any steroids. I haven't started TRT yet. It's a little weird...

I would stick with TRT, maybe take it up to 200-250mg Testosterone Weekly before adding the primobolan. That way u get a good Idea on how your body reacts to aas and how testosterone alone effects your estradiol and shbg.. As for having high SHBG try using Boron 5mg Daily it is an OTC supplement will help in lowering SHBG on and off testosterone. Im sure it will have a positive effect on estradiol also as I also use this supplement. Im sure taking this approach will help you work around any blood tests you may have in the future.

 

[Deivids]

I would stick with TRT, maybe take it up to 200-250mg Testosterone Weekly before adding the primobolan. That way u get a good Idea on how your body reacts to aas and how testosterone alone effects your estradiol and shbg.. As for having high SHBG try using Boron 5mg Daily it is an OTC supplement will help in lowering SHBG on and off testosterone. Im sure it will have a positive effect on estradiol also as I also use this supplement. Im sure taking this approach will help you work around any blood tests you may have in the future.

Thanks!!

 

[Driada Medical]

If you start taking 200-250 mg of testosterone per week, then most likely your SHBG will become quite low anyway. Any anabolic steroid reduces globulin. Primobolan as a derivative of DHT makes this somewhat more effective.

Have you been bloodwork during TRT or not yet?

 

[Trapjunky]

If you start taking 200-250 mg of testosterone per week, then most likely your SHBG will become quite low anyway. Any anabolic steroid reduces globulin. Primobolan as a derivative of DHT makes this somewhat more effective.

Have you been bloodwork during TRT or not yet?

Yes testosterone did lower my Shbg.. 200mg Weekly between two injections (Sunday and Thurdsday) lowered my SHGB by nearly 50%. I began to use more frequent injections of testosterone Same dose 3x Weekly and Increased SHGB. Natural was 42.. 6 Weeks after my first shot I was at 21.. After changing injection frequency it increased to 31.

 

[All Nats McGee]

I’ve gotten a lot of bloodwork on primo and it crushes E2. The ratio I would suggest is 3:2 test/primo. Or if you add HCG or low dose dbol you could run the primo higher.

 

[Jin23]

Your doc will 100% notice that you are using anabolics. There really is no doubt here. The only thing that wont change your bloods that much is HGH. Everything else will change your bloods a lot and your doc will notice. He can't have you on trt if your ldl will sky rocket and your hdl will plummet. And if your shbg will plummet he wont like it either. Nor will he like the hematocrit raising so high. So there is no way he wont do anything about it. I doubt however that he would just take you of the trt? If you need trt then he cant just take you off of it. Idk ...

Also, do a lot more research, as you are asking way to basic questions to be cycling!

 

[WannaBeBIG]

It would be stupid to try and pull a fast one on your doctor. You’re just starting trt. Why do you believe you need primo right away? If your doctor is making you complete multiple sets of bloodwork I can tell you, you’re not smarter than the doctor. You will screw yourself over with your irresponsible choices.

Get on trt and spend the next couple years educating yourself on anabolics. Until you’re getting bloodwork every six months or greater don’t risk it.

 

[Deivids]

@Driada Medical
@Trapjunky
@All Nats McGee
@Jin23
@WannaBeBIG

Thanks for your help.

What you say makes sense.

I will start ONLY with the TRT regimen of 140 mg Testosterone for at least 4 or 5 weeks to see how my body reacts and I will do blood tests on my own.

I will inform you of the results.

Greetings!!

 

[Rido]

Thanks @Cridi887

I understand that this would not be a very exaggerated alarm for the doctor, right?

What I mean is that the doctor does not have to think that these 2 altered values are a consequence of using other steroids.

I'm right??

IT didnt affect my kidney or liver function either.


it would be atypical. he may think you might be taking something like aromasin or armidex.

have you thought about running a steroid with a half life of 3 days for 8-10 weeks? IT would give you time to clear it out.

 

[Type-IIx]

It could (even dramatically) affect total, free, and bioavailable testosterone depending on the particular assay's degree of cross-reactivity between metenolone & testosterone.

 

[effswithtren]

I’ve gotten a lot of bloodwork on primo and it crushes E2. The ratio I would suggest is 3:2 test/primo. Or if you add HCG or low dose dbol you could run the primo higher.

It seems pretty variable. It definitely lowers my E2, but I seem to need more than most. I need almost double primo relative to test to keep my e2 down. In contrast, I need maybe 3:4 eq:test to achieve the same e2. I see others with the opposite results, etc.