INFO : Formastane will be nice as an injectable

Carlito

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Sup bros, I've been intrigued by this compound since Promatrix cameout with their oral version of formestne named Primobolan Acetate, I tried and liked it pretty much, the downside was that I had to take 6 to 8 tabs a day for it to work, it gave me lean mass gain and hardness and it helped me recover from a cycle I did not used Clomid or Nolva!...lol, yeah I always do things like this I am the guinea pig...ya know. I think if we could use this compund as an injectable it would be more efficient and less expensive, I will post some info on its anti-progesterone activity and later as I find more info I will post more.
Thanks
Carlito


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Effect of 4-hydroxyandrostenedione on murine Leydig tumor cell steroidogenesis.

Zimniski SJ, Brandt ME, Melner MH, Brodie AM, Puett D.

Department of Biochemistry and Molecular Biology, University of Miami School of Medicine, Florida 33101.

The murine Leydig cell tumor (M5480A) possesses high levels of estrogen receptor and is known to produce estrogens. In these studies we examined the effects of the potent aromatase inhibitor 4-hydroxyandrostenedione (4-OHA) on Leydig tumor cell steroidogenesis both in vitro and in vivo. The addition of 4-OHA to Leydig tumor cells in primary culture resulted in a dose- and a time-dependent decrease in media progesterone levels. The observed decrease was most likely due to impaired synthesis of progesterone, inasmuch as no alteration in progesterone metabolism was seen when progesterone levels were diminishing. However, 4-OHA inhibited progesterone conversion to testosterone following 1 h of incubation, but this effect disappeared coincident with 4-OHA metabolism. Analysis of pregnenolone production revealed a biphasic dose-dependent effect of 4-OHA. At low doses (0.01-0.1 microM), 4-OHA was found to decrease pregnenolone concentrations, while at higher doses (1-10 microM) pregnenolone levels were elevated. Therefore, the actions of 4-OHA on Leydig cell steroidogenesis in vitro appear to be multifocal. Other experiments were performed to evaluate the effects of 4-OHA on tumor-bearing male mice in vivo. In these studies, the predominant effects of 4-OHA were to act as an aromatase inhibitor and to inhibit progesterone production. Thus, while 4-OHA is a potent aromatase inhibitor, we have found that this compound may alter steroidogenesis in Leydig tumor cells at several sites prior to aromatization.

PMID: 2065323 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]


Is there a benefit by the sequence anastrozole-formestane for postmenopausal metastatic breast cancer women?

Carlini P, Ferretti G, Di Cosimo S, Colella E, Tonachella R, Romiti A, Tomao S, Frassoldati A, Papaldo P, Fabi A, Ruggeri EM, Cognetti F.

Department of Medical Oncology, Regina Elena Cancer Institute, Via Elio Chianesi 53, Rome, Italy. pcarlini@iol.it

To explore the different sequence interactions between reversible non-steroidal (anastrozole, ANZ and letrozole, LTZ) and non-reversible steroidal aromatase inhibitors (formestane, FOR and exemestane, EXE), we evaluated the clinical benefit (CB) in postmenopausal breast cancer patients, who had previously received anastrozole and subsequently formestane. In 19 out of 21 patients (90.5%), a clinical benefit response was achieved by anastrozole, with a median duration of 12 months. Out of the 21 women progressing on anastrozole, 12 achieved stable disease (SD)>/=6 months by formestane only. The overall clinical benefit was 66.5%. The median duration of clinical benefit was 11 months with a time to progression of 6.5 months. The median duration of clinical benefit in our series is similar to that reported in two phase II trials with the sequence aminogluthetimide-->formestane and aminogluthetimide-->exemestane as third-line hormonal therapy, suggesting a non-cross-resistance between the two classes of inhibitors.

Publication Types:


Clinical Trial


PMID: 12943750 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
 
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Yes please add some data to back this up.

How long did you use it?

Are you saying it feels to have anabolic properties?

Or just exceptional antiE ability?

I was interested in the compound until I seen all the claims saying its as potent as 250mg of Primobolan depot, which is complete bullshit.

If it has anti - progestin abilities it might be an excellent ancillary.

You can inject the HM Gear version of Aromabolan PCT (formestane acetate)
 
I am in the works bro, I did like the effects from the oral version from Promatrix but is way to expensive and I believe 500mg/week IM will do the trick and Yes similar to Primo, I did a cycle of ten weeks with 500mgTest E and 400mg EQ I decided not use any of the PCTs and took a chance by taking the orals 6 to 8 tabs a day and I did not feel the crash and maintained musclemass, the usual sides such as acne like is in the case of clomid. On another occasion I used by itself for 6 weeks at 800mg per day and my strength increased, no bloat, lean mass gains but the nicest was the hardness and dry appearance it added to my new lean mass, a little acne and agression I did not do any PCT and loss a little mass but not much also a little decreased of energy no negative effects on my sex drive. There is so much fuzz about this compound such as increases in Igf-1 by 26%, anti-estrogen activity, increases of free testosterone and LH and this new info I found about possessin anti-progestenic activity.
I am still looking for a formula to convert it to an injectable I am almost there, I will the first one to try it and see how it goes then I will offer free trials for the skeptics, if I am wrong oh well at least I tried it.
I will keep you posted.
Peace
Carlito
 
experiment

Would you be willing to go on an experimental trial with this idea of yours? It sounds good but someone needs to take it alone and have blood panels done frequently to see if the drug really works. Then after all the blood panels are in maybe we could see how efective it is. Of course though someone would need to take this dug without stacking it with anything else or else we would not know what did what?

just a suggestion
 
HM Gear have an injectable version of formastene on their site... can't find any decent information on how it should be used in conjuction with other compunds though...
 
They sell it at http://www.1fast400.com/ is very cheap, but there is a big BUT here if converted then it will have to be injected ED since this powder is just base 4-OHA, they sell the injectable form in Europe by the name of Lentaron IM Depot which need s to be injected only once every two weeks so I am assuming it has some kind of long ester attached to it. Hm gear makes its own version named Aromabolan and I've heard you could inject it, its contents are BA and a special MCT oil matrix??? Of course this product is meant to be taken orally and injecting it may not be the smartest thing to do.

www.hmgear.com


Carlito
 
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Carlito said:
Bump for more info

Carlito
I read a post buy a guy trying different ways of suspending the powder but was unsuccessful. Cant remember which board. MAybe anabolex or anabolic review... Dunno I visit so many.
 
ed mass said:
I read a post buy a guy trying different ways of suspending the powder but was unsuccessful. Cant remember which board. MAybe anabolex or anabolic review... Dunno I visit so many.
Yeah, I started this in other boards too, it was CEM he made a suspension but did not work well, also the Kitchen Chemist from AnabolicMinds was trying to convert it with no success yet. The key is finding the molecular weight of he compound to be converted first.

Carlito
 
Bros,

I just took a 1cc shot of HM Gear's Aromabolan PCT yesterday (Romano, who reviewed it in the MD issue you are all talking about, said that it was made to injectable specs, even with a rubber top, suspended in MCT oil). I am going to take it for my anti-e while i am on my current cycle of fina, test and eq. Alls i gots to say it.....DAMN, MY LEG STARTED TO HURT RIGHT AFTER I TOOK THE SHOT AND ITS STILLLLLL SORE TODAY(THURSDAY). I dont know if thats normal, or maybe i just tore a big part of my muscle on the inject, but if its gonna hurt like that every time i take a shot (i plan on taking 2cc's a week, every mon. and thur) then i may opt to just take arimidex the rest of my cycle. I have done several cycles, sometimes had some injection pain/site pain, but never like this. Damn, i was thinkin about stickin my bi!! that would have really sucked! at least my leg is big enough to allow it to diffuse sufficiently. Well, just wanted to share my exp. I too wanted to give it a try as what i read about it seemed really promising and there were numerous studies[scientific] supporting its positive benefits. Damn, i dont know though. anyone else have any exp with this stuff? Later
 
Formestane is being pushed cuz of Author L Rea (The guy who wrote those Chemical Muscle Enhancement and Building the Perfect Beast books).
 
BigMike86 said:
Bros,

I just took a 1cc shot of HM Gear's Aromabolan PCT yesterday (Romano, who reviewed it in the MD issue you are all talking about, said that it was made to injectable specs, even with a rubber top, suspended in MCT oil). I am going to take it for my anti-e while i am on my current cycle of fina, test and eq. Alls i gots to say it.....DAMN, MY LEG STARTED TO HURT RIGHT AFTER I TOOK THE SHOT AND ITS STILLLLLL SORE TODAY(THURSDAY). I dont know if thats normal, or maybe i just tore a big part of my muscle on the inject, but if its gonna hurt like that every time i take a shot (i plan on taking 2cc's a week, every mon. and thur) then i may opt to just take arimidex the rest of my cycle. I have done several cycles, sometimes had some injection pain/site pain, but never like this. Damn, i was thinkin about stickin my bi!! that would have really sucked! at least my leg is big enough to allow it to diffuse sufficiently. Well, just wanted to share my exp. I too wanted to give it a try as what i read about it seemed really promising and there were numerous studies[scientific] supporting its positive benefits. Damn, i dont know though. anyone else have any exp with this stuff? Later
I have a couple bottles of this stuff sitting around too. I have read feedback from multiple people saying the shit hurt like helll!! I think some of them baked it to try to reduce the BA.
 
Does anyone else know whether or not baking this, or anything for the matter, reduces BA and makes gear less painful? that shit hurt like a mother and i am not looking forward to shooting 2cc's of this crap every week. I am also thinking about just simply mixing it with some of my other gear which is painless(i.e. 1cc test and 1cc aromabolan mixed in the same syringe) Would this be possible???
 
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