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Injectable proviron

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Anyone have experience with injectable proviron? Bioavailability is 3% oral. Hoping to get better bioavailability out on an IM homebrew.
 
I didn't know it was so poorly absorbed orally. Wonder if it would hold at like 25mg/ml. I've never played w it like that
 
you probably would not have to brew it higher than 10mg/ml as usual oral doses range from 50-150mg, which would be 1.5-4.5mg of inj. proviron. i saw on some other board that someone managed to brew it like that with 2/20
 

Proviron Injectable 13mg/mL

2%BA 20%EO 30%BB 8%DMSO Source raw: Hupharma Cette recette est déjà optimisée, on ne peut pas mettre moins de DMSO, BB ou plus de concentration (14mg/mL déjà testé et y-a un léger trouble dans le bécher qui ne pourrait être compensé qu'au prix de mettre 10% de DMSO, mais vu la biodisponibilité...
fr.thinksteroids.com fr.thinksteroids.com

From french mesorx
 
Liska said:

US3908007A - Treatment of mental depression - Google Patents

Mesterolone and its 17-esters possess neuropsychotropic activity and are administered to persons in a mentally depressed state to treat the depression.
patents.google.com

Unfortunately not easily available as raws.
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Just tried brewing this , with success.

20 mg /ML in castor oil and BB.

Per 1mL (20mg/ml):


Mesterolone 20mg, 618.6mg BA , 353.4mg Castor Oil

I don’t have a hot plate so just nuked the beaker in the microwave for a minute , three times. And it’s held since.

Pinned 0.05 cc (1mg) into delt. Felt it kicking in within 20 minutes. Was able to draw with a 30g slin pin
 
y777 said:
Just tried brewing this , with success.

20 mg /ML in castor oil and BB.

Per 1mL (20mg/ml):


Mesterolone 20mg, 618.6mg BA , 353.4mg Castor Oil

I don’t have a hot plate so just nuked the beaker in the microwave for a minute , three times. And it’s held since.

Pinned 0.05 cc (1mg) into delt. Felt it kicking in within 20 minutes. Was able to draw with a 30g slin pin
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is the BA a typo or did you really use 618mg Benzyl Alcohol instead of Benzyl Benzoate per ml of brew? because thats the was its supposed to be made according to the file
 
callisto said:
is the BA a typo or did you really use 618mg Benzyl Alcohol instead of Benzyl Benzoate per ml of brew? because thats the was its supposed to be made according to the file
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Hi. Thanks a lot for catching this! This was definitely a typo. I only used BB and and castor oil.

After 2.5 doses pinned I must say that I am VERY pleased with this. Holding up quite nicely. Guys , titrate this well. I’ve taken 50- 75 of Proviron per oral (I just swallow the raws ) and this 20mg/ml concentration feels quite potent. Yesterday I did AM and PM administrations of 3 mg a piece Second one definitely knocked me out. I tend to get knocked out when I take meds that heavily spike my dopamine levels.

I’ve done both shallow IM into delt subq into ab fat and both get absorbed quite well. All of it pinned with 30g half inch slin pin. Quite surprised that castor oil was this smooth. Because of the concentration I’m only drawing 0.10 or 0.15 cc. I suspect that I’d be cursing the viscosity of the oil if i had to wait for a larger volume to fill the slin pin.

What i don’t know is how much the viscosity of the oil affects the half life of the compound but I remember seeing literature on test formulations getting some extension when brewed in castor oil.

I think this maybe why the evening dose felt a bit stronger to me — the morning dose was probably still active , or at least somewhat active that there was overlap

Based on the Bayer literature saying that the oral bioavailability is 3% when 3mg is the equivalent of 100 mg, right ? I haven’t done more than 75 per day before so yesterdays pins should be the equivalent of 200 mg total? I’ve seen guys post in forums about getting the brewed concentration higher than 20-25 but why would you want to? The bioavailability difference is so massive. Pretty decent pump this morning and I’m yet to hit the gym. Arms feel like I took winstrol lol. Minus the feeling that there’s poison coursing thru my veins and liver lol. I suppose this is what Masteron must feel like. (I’m yet to try that compound )


Huge fan of Proviron. Not just for the drying and physical or libido boost. It’s just a wonderful drug to have in the tool box. If your mood is crap for whatever reason you can pin this and have a lift - same day. Not like waiting for an antidepressant to kick in or something. Now, granted it’s not a replacement for SSRIs ; Proviron is IIRC acting primarily on dopamine receptors but sometimes that’s sufficient.

I saw a post that said Proviron boosting effects (can’t recall if this is mental or sexual ) seem to wear off or taper off after a couple of weeks. Not sure if that’s the drug itself or just the nature of dopamine receptors and how our body works. We get used to high dopamine and have to take it down a bit so that’s worth noting.

But the mental improvement is something I’m interested in comparing for long term sustainability especially when comparing to primo and mast. When in TRT+ or cruise mode.

Apologies for stepping into a potential new thread but this is now an interesting comparison. M

From long term use , comparing , say injectable Proviron and Masteron. Primo is more anabolic than either so it’s not a good comparison.

first question tho at I’d want have answered is how do sides or long term health damage compare with injectable vs oral Proviron

3 mg injected vs 100 mg oral. Just going off Bayer 3% indicated bioavailability
- is this a fair comparison once we get some field bro reports? Does 3mg injected give you the same mental and physical effect as 100 mg oral or is it more or less than 100?

- how would the sides scale? I’m not familiar with any long term affects of Proviron use. I suppose anything that affects dopamine receptors can affect them negatively. I’m gonna assume that this would be the same after bioavailability is equalized. Lipids maybe a different story ? Granted one would need to get bloods done etc etc but we know that some compounds are harsher on lipids when taken orally, simply because cholesterol is made primarily in the liver. So does taking injectable Proviron make the lipids effect negligible when doing these 1-3 mg per day administration a ?

- long term use of Masteron vs injectable Proviron. I’ve not tried mast yet but what I’ve seen guys post is that the physical effects of Masteron primarily noticeable at 400+ per week. So what would be a good comparison to Proviron for TRT+ dosing. 200 mast per week? Maybe 350 (100 eod or is that approaching a low cycle dose ?). So what’s the affect of 200 mast weekly vs the 3 mg daily Proviron ? I am primarily concerned with lipids. That seems to be the most common side effect. Specifically HDL

- mast 200-300/wk vs Proviron injectable 3 mg daily hair effects. This is highly personal and it would have many potential variables. For example is the user on 5aR drugs ? Not because fin/dut blocks these two steroids but because you’d nuke your natural DHT and thus you have less overall DHT floating around and potentially hitting your hair. Is the user running any hair protocols like topical
 
Long read, you pop a few addies with that Proviron? LoL
This is interesting for sure. Interested in possible long term effects and reliability of dosage amounts with injectable as you mentioned
Interested enough to add some mesterolone raws to my next order list lol
 
y777 said:
Hi. Thanks a lot for catching this! This was definitely a typo. I only used BB and and castor oil.

After 2.5 doses pinned I must say that I am VERY pleased with this. Holding up quite nicely. Guys , titrate this well. I’ve taken 50- 75 of Proviron per oral (I just swallow the raws ) and this 20mg/ml concentration feels quite potent. Yesterday I did AM and PM administrations of 3 mg a piece Second one definitely knocked me out. I tend to get knocked out when I take meds that heavily spike my dopamine levels.

I’ve done both shallow IM into delt subq into ab fat and both get absorbed quite well. All of it pinned with 30g half inch slin pin. Quite surprised that castor oil was this smooth. Because of the concentration I’m only drawing 0.10 or 0.15 cc. I suspect that I’d be cursing the viscosity of the oil if i had to wait for a larger volume to fill the slin pin.

What i don’t know is how much the viscosity of the oil affects the half life of the compound but I remember seeing literature on test formulations getting some extension when brewed in castor oil.

I think this maybe why the evening dose felt a bit stronger to me — the morning dose was probably still active , or at least somewhat active that there was overlap

Based on the Bayer literature saying that the oral bioavailability is 3% when 3mg is the equivalent of 100 mg, right ? I haven’t done more than 75 per day before so yesterdays pins should be the equivalent of 200 mg total? I’ve seen guys post in forums about getting the brewed concentration higher than 20-25 but why would you want to? The bioavailability difference is so massive. Pretty decent pump this morning and I’m yet to hit the gym. Arms feel like I took winstrol lol. Minus the feeling that there’s poison coursing thru my veins and liver lol. I suppose this is what Masteron must feel like. (I’m yet to try that compound )


Huge fan of Proviron. Not just for the drying and physical or libido boost. It’s just a wonderful drug to have in the tool box. If your mood is crap for whatever reason you can pin this and have a lift - same day. Not like waiting for an antidepressant to kick in or something. Now, granted it’s not a replacement for SSRIs ; Proviron is IIRC acting primarily on dopamine receptors but sometimes that’s sufficient.

I saw a post that said Proviron boosting effects (can’t recall if this is mental or sexual ) seem to wear off or taper off after a couple of weeks. Not sure if that’s the drug itself or just the nature of dopamine receptors and how our body works. We get used to high dopamine and have to take it down a bit so that’s worth noting.

But the mental improvement is something I’m interested in comparing for long term sustainability especially when comparing to primo and mast. When in TRT+ or cruise mode.

Apologies for stepping into a potential new thread but this is now an interesting comparison. M

From long term use , comparing , say injectable Proviron and Masteron. Primo is more anabolic than either so it’s not a good comparison.

first question tho at I’d want have answered is how do sides or long term health damage compare with injectable vs oral Proviron

3 mg injected vs 100 mg oral. Just going off Bayer 3% indicated bioavailability
- is this a fair comparison once we get some field bro reports? Does 3mg injected give you the same mental and physical effect as 100 mg oral or is it more or less than 100?

- how would the sides scale? I’m not familiar with any long term affects of Proviron use. I suppose anything that affects dopamine receptors can affect them negatively. I’m gonna assume that this would be the same after bioavailability is equalized. Lipids maybe a different story ? Granted one would need to get bloods done etc etc but we know that some compounds are harsher on lipids when taken orally, simply because cholesterol is made primarily in the liver. So does taking injectable Proviron make the lipids effect negligible when doing these 1-3 mg per day administration a ?

- long term use of Masteron vs injectable Proviron. I’ve not tried mast yet but what I’ve seen guys post is that the physical effects of Masteron primarily noticeable at 400+ per week. So what would be a good comparison to Proviron for TRT+ dosing. 200 mast per week? Maybe 350 (100 eod or is that approaching a low cycle dose ?). So what’s the affect of 200 mast weekly vs the 3 mg daily Proviron ? I am primarily concerned with lipids. That seems to be the most common side effect. Specifically HDL

- mast 200-300/wk vs Proviron injectable 3 mg daily hair effects. This is highly personal and it would have many potential variables. For example is the user on 5aR drugs ? Not because fin/dut blocks these two steroids but because you’d nuke your natural DHT and thus you have less overall DHT floating around and potentially hitting your hair. Is the user running any hair protocols like topical
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Thanks for sharing, good job on that brew!
 
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