Injection Question

Arnold73

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Where is the best place, the quad or the glute?

Swale... where do you have your patients inject? Since the injections are once a week (for testosterone) isnt it better to inject in the glutes as the more fat in the glute will slow the absorbtion. Ive heard this, is there any truth to that or can you just use both places and it really doesnt make much of a difference in the long run.

And also what size needle do you recommend for both areas?
 
Hopefully you are not injecting into the fat but deeper into the muscle.
 
U want the injection to go into the muscle........... and i perfer to shoot in the quad because i don;t have to twist in weird directions and can see what i'm doing............... much eaiser in the quad IMO.......
 
buck said:
Hopefully you are not injecting into the fat but deeper into the muscle.

Well I just remember reading a study on aids patients or something and they were talking about how glute injections are better as the testosterone is absorbed slower, and after accumulated injections over time it leveled out steadier.
I read this in one of the popular muscle magazines years ago when there was a debate on how many injections should be taken a week. And they had the charts on a test enathate injection and how it drops after a few days and so on. But the argument was it wasnt taking into account where the injections were taken and the studies were done on one injection rather than numerous ones.
 
If you do a little research you will find this same question has been answered several times in this Forum.
 
Sorry, I did look at the threads all the way back to the beginning and didnt seem to find out what was the injection protocol you use Swale, and also why you use it. If im missing something maybe one of you helpful bros here could show me which thread to look, i really would appreciate it. Should I be looking in the Anabolic section also? Sorry if im slow fellas :confused:
 
Sorry, I just rememeber us discussing this very topic on a HRT Forum a few days back. Since I only appear here now (AHEM) it must be at Meso.
 
ARNOLD73 said:
Sorry, I did look at the threads all the way back to the beginning and didnt seem to find out what was the injection protocol you use Swale, and also why you use it. If im missing something maybe one of you helpful bros here could show me which thread to look, i really would appreciate it. Should I be looking in the Anabolic section also? Sorry if im slow fellas :confused:
See the thread (messy quad injection) about three days back
 
OK...so basically take this advice. Ive read this already and the rest of the thread is people basically joking around making soup jokes. At the bottom of the thread Swale says its ok about the needle size, but nothing about if he condone whats the article says, or about what he does personally. Everything else I guess "about the questions I asked which were a little different" I will just assume as thats why im here at Meso. :rolleyes:




His guy has been doing shots for over 20 yrs.
Phil

I have always alternated legs and location of injections.
You can stick the needle anywhere, and although it is intramuscle, I
have found it does not matter at all as long as it gets into your
body, so I stick the needle in about 3/4 of an inch and as I push
the juice in I slowly raise the needle so by the time the juice is
it the needle is maybe 1/2 inch stuck in there. This allows the
juice to be driven into a larger area resulting in less localized
pain. Also, vary by a couple inches where in upper thigh you stick
the needle, and vary which leg to use. You could stick it in your
own bun/hip area but I never tried this because I like to see
exactly what I am doing. Also, you really should not have any pain
afterwards if you take the time to gently stretch and warm the
injection site so the needle goes into warm relaxed skin, and face
the beveled edge of needle away from you so as the arm come straight
down it will easily pierce the flesh, push the juice in dead slow
raising the needle slowly, and don't drive it in way deep, it is not
necessary, only need to get in the flesh a little more than 1/2 inch
or so I figure. Some people draw the juice from the bottle with a
larger needle and then switch to a smaller needle for injection, I
don't bother I use the same for both and I use the same needle twice.
And do take a DIM or two a day, maybe a copper with zinc pill every
other day or so, really knock off sugar and bread as they promote
fat and allow more estrogen excess to put fat in your breasts as
your body says hey this is a LOT of testosterone all at once and
I'll just dump some of this into estrogen because I don't need it
all right now. I shoot 100mg about once every 9 days or so. I find
any more often the steroid effect causes too much water retention
and weight gain, which I hate more than not having enough T. I have
tried Androgel, Androgerm, compounded gels, etc,etc. They all work
pretty good but have to applied daily and not everyone's skin
absorbs the same. Everyone responds to shots and you only need to
think about it every week or so. I like that.
let me know if all this rambling helps at all
Norton
 
BigRagu said:
U want the injection to go into the muscle........... and i perfer to shoot in the quad because i don;t have to twist in weird directions and can see what i'm doing............... much eaiser in the quad IMO.......

Hey...I was reading the book "Juiced" by Jose Cansenco and he said its better to use the glutes. I run alot, as he does, and thats why I guess he preferred the glute rather than the quads. He said the other players did this as well. Is there any reason to that?

I dont really like using my ass as its hard for me to see what the hell im doing and it seems to be awkward, but thats all I ever have done. I would rather use my quads,, i just see so many veins in my legs and its seems pretty fuckin scary i guess.

And SWALE, my main man....I HATE INJECTIONS BROTHER! Thats why im so concerned about them I guess. I guess I need some support here and basically the best injection procedure for Dummys over here. Maybe I could call Cancenco and have him inject me as he seems pretty good at it :D
 
Go with the area you feel most comfortable with and just remember to asperate. I have shot into the quad a lot and have no problems with running or anything else just dont do it after a leg workout, I bounced a needle once my muscles where so tight.
 
I feel your pain about hating injections bro!!! I do too. In fact, I've become almost paranoid about them when I'm not giving them. It's the "darting" approach. I don't know what it is but when done quickly they hurt like hell. If I do em slowly (and pick just the right place) they are absolutely painless. No pain AT ALL!!!!! This goes for Sub-Q and IM injections. The only hard part about going slow is breaking the skin. Even with a 26G needle my skin usually compresses nearly 3/8" before it finally gives way. Guess I just have tough skin.
 
I wouldn't take a word of advice from Jose Conseco.

Hold the syringe like a dart, and push it in quickly like you are throwing it (you are not actually throwing it through the air, lest anyone misunderstand). A 26ga needle is pretty small for that thick oil, but if using one, make sure you use a larger on efor filling, then replace with a fresh one to inject.
 
Thank you everybody, Swale.
I will be calling Consenco up though if I have any problemos and maybe he will inject me MGwire style :eek:
 
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