input please

[bldsprt518]

ive been reading up(at your advice) and im not quite ready to start but i wanna get some input from you guys. first off im
180lb, 28 y.o, w/a fairly cut build. ive been working out for about 3-4 years and feel like iv'e plateued. i wanna keep it simple and do eq(400mgwk) , sus(400mgwk) and d-bol(30g.ed). i would like some advice on wether i should go weekly/bi-weekly and how the eq and sus should be taken(same day,area) etc.

 

[01dragonslayer]

Being your first cycle I highly suggest running a single estered test. Sust(if ran properly) requires a EOD injections because of the shorter acting test esters. I feel that newbies, for the most part, are not up to EOD pokes and the pain from the prop may be a little too much for your first go. Enth or cyp requires only bi-weekly injections and results will be just as well. That being said I would suggest enth or cyp/EQ at 500mg/wk and 400mg/wk respectively. Anti-e throughout and PCT clomid 3wks after your last shot.

 

[maxx]

ive been reading up(at your advice) and im not quite ready to start but i wanna get some input from you guys. first off im
180lb, 28 y.o, w/a fairly cut build. ive been working out for about 3-4 years and feel like iv'e plateued. i wanna keep it simple and do eq(400mgwk) , sus(400mgwk) and d-bol(30g.ed). i would like some advice on wether i should go weekly/bi-weekly and how the eq and sus should be taken(same day,area) etc.

if you really think that youve hit a sticking piont,which at 180 is hard to believe,but hey you know you better...anyways sust. should be at 500 since its 250mg/mg...i honestly would choose a single ester like cyp or enan. to keep your first cycle easier(sust is better eod injections).shots every five days at test 400-600mg(with single) and eq the same.d-bol 30ed is fine limit it to 4-5 weeks.dont forget your anti-e's and pct...that is one of the most important part of a cycle,beside eat right.hope that helps.

maxx

 

[NDK]

There is as many opinions on how to use sust as there is on cycles. If you go here http://powerboard.rockarfett.com/roidcalc/index.html you can put in some numbers and try and get steady blood level concentrations. With the shortest of the esters in sust it is often used every day. However in my opinion it isn't extremely necessary to have super steady levels. As far as when? Decide that after you look at the blood concentration levels. I have often used them both every 3rd day. I would use 500 mg of test to 400 mg of EQ every week and rotate the injection sights.

 

[PUMPED]

here is a nice beginner cycle, same as the guys above suggested

500 mgs of test enanthate or cypionate inject 250mgs mon, thurs 11 wks
400 mgs of EQ inject 200 mgs mon, thurs 11 wks
d-bol 30 mgs a day take 10 mgs upon waking up, 10 mgs at noon, 10 mid afternoon..4-5 wks

you should run l-dex at .25 mgs ed
also have nolvadex on hand in case gyno symptoms occur

since you running orals i would suggest some sort of liver protection
1000 mgs of milk thistle ed through out cycle
800 mgs of ALA ed through out cycle

then proper PCT
start 2 weeks after last injections
wk 13-15 Clomid 13=50mgED/14=100mgED/15=50mgED
wk 13-15 Nolva 20mg ED

 

[bldsprt518]

ok, i got some qv enantat 250. can i go w/every 5 days w/400 of eq and enth or do i need to split 200mg twice weekly. i work like crazy and am looking to simplify a bit. also can i mix the eq and enth in the same injection? would i be wasting my time if i went 250mg every 5 days w/the eq and enth? lastly is is better to take the d-bol empy or w/food? i appreciate the input btw.

 

[01dragonslayer]

Shoot it twice/wk spliting your doses. You want to try and maintain constant blood levels. Yes they can be mixed in the same syringe. I always like to take my orals with food....helps with the absorbtion. Don't forget to split your doses of dbol 3x s/day because of its short half-life.

 

[Patuba]

ok, i got some qv enantat 250. can i go w/every 5 days w/400 of eq and enth or do i need to split 200mg twice weekly. i work like crazy and am looking to simplify a bit. also can i mix the eq and enth in the same injection? would i be wasting my time if i went 250mg every 5 days w/the eq and enth? lastly is is better to take the d-bol empy or w/food? i appreciate the input btw.

split them to twice weekly. inject them at the same time in the same syringe on Mondays and Thursdays

 

[bldsprt518]

i appreciate the input. there hammerin' a lot of suppliers around my neck of the woods. im gonna have to figure another way to get some goods, i need another 10ml's of test enth and 10ml's eq before i can start. i can get 5 weeks but i dont wanna throw money away on a half cycle if shit doesnt pan out.

 

[NDK]

Yes make sure you have absolutly every thing you need for your cycle and extra in case you break something. Also every last bit of PCT on hand as well. Things have a way of going sour at the worst time.