Insulin advice

[strangegenericguy]

Just a question, bodybuilders who gets diabetes 2 do they get It for insulin use? No right? Is it for the too much amount of carbs right? So now i'm using insulin obviously with hgh while bulking, i will use it just for 30 days while eating A TONS of carbs, can i be safe from diabetes 2 right?

 

[Juiced_lizard]

Just a question, bodybuilders who gets diabetes 2 do they get It for insulin use? No right? Is it for the too much amount of carbs right? So now i'm using insulin obviously with hgh while bulking, i will use it just for 30 days while eating A TONS of carbs, can i be safe from diabetes 2 right?

I think you need to go back to the drawing board and not consider insulin at all at this point. There is WAY to much you need to learn that shouldn’t be asked in this question. If you really want to go down this path (I advise against) I’d hire a coach.

Do you even know your A1C? Fasted glucose levels? How are you going to dose it? Do you think you can get type 2 diabetes in 30 days? What is “ A TON” of carbs? Why are you wanting to run for 30 days?

 

[strangegenericguy]

I think you need to go back to the drawing board and not consider insulin at all at this point. There is WAY to much you need to learn that shouldn’t be asked in this question. If you really want to go down this path (I advise against) I’d hire a coach.

Do you even know your A1C? Fasted glucose levels? How are you going to dose it? Do you think you can get type 2 diabetes in 30 days? What is “ A TON” of carbs? Why are you wanting to run for 30 days?

Hey man, i use It After a cut to put glycogen into the muscle and start a good bulking with High carbs intake, Hey Bro please serious question i'm so worried and in a paranoic state, is it ok for 30 days? No diabetes right? I can't get it or i risk to lose the job and my carreer

 

[Juiced_lizard]

Hey man, i use It After a cut to put glycogen into the muscle and start a good bulking with High carbs intake, Hey Bro please serious question i'm so worried and in a paranoic state, is it ok for 30 days? No diabetes right? I can't get it or i risk to lose the job and my carreer

Then why take it at all? If you’d really lose your job if you got it, why risk it? I don’t personally see the benefit of 30 days of insulin use. You aren’t going to gain 30lbs of muscle in that time. I can’t say nor anyone that you will or will not get type 2 diabetes. How would we know you aren’t already pre diabetic? There are so many variables at play.

Personally do I think 30 days of insulin will make you diabetic? Probably not No but I can’t say 100% it wouldn’t. I’m not trying to be a dick I’m just being honest. Insulin is a potentially very dangerous compound if not used correctly and safely.

 

[strangegenericguy]

Then why take it at all? If you’d really lose your job if you got it, why risk it? I don’t personally see the benefit of 30 days of insulin use. You aren’t going to gain 30lbs of muscle in that time. I can’t say nor anyone that you will or will not get type 2 diabetes. How would we know you aren’t already pre diabetic? There are so many variables at play.

Personally do I think 30 days of insulin will make you diabetic? Probably not No but I can’t say 100% it wouldn’t. I’m not trying to be a dick I’m just being honest. Insulin is a potentially very dangerous compound if not used correctly and safely.

I do blood work, i know i'm not pre diabetic, the thing is that i'm an hard gainer and insulin gives me the possibility to eat A LOT, and i can't do it without It, so what i do? I try to do a good start while doing 10grams of carbs per iu before each meal and sometimes even more just to be safe but i don't want to go for more than 20 or 30 days, i don't want to risk, i'm ok with hard dosages of aas but diabetes doesn't worth it

 

[Juiced_lizard]

I do blood work, i know i'm not pre diabetic, the thing is that i'm an hard gainer and insulin gives me the possibility to eat A LOT, and i can't do it without It, so what i do? I try to do a good start while doing 10grams of carbs per iu before each meal and sometimes even more just to be safe but i don't want to go for more than 20 or 30 days, i don't want to risk, i'm ok with hard dosages of aas but diabetes doesn't worth it

I personally wouldn’t use it. I don’t think the benefit out weighs the risk personally for MOST people, myself included. There are multiple avenues for “hard gainers” which is a term I don’t really understand fully. There are multiple ways to add more calories into meals if that’s what you are looking to do. All of this is just 100% my opinion.

 

[strangegenericguy]

I personally wouldn’t use it. I don’t think the benefit out weighs the risk personally for MOST people, myself included. There are multiple avenues for “hard gainers” which is a term I don’t really understand fully. There are multiple ways to add more calories into meals if that’s what you are looking to do. All of this is just 100% my opinion.

Good advice, i need to find out

 

[strangegenericguy]

The problem is that adding calories in a junk way without insulin means 100% you gain fat, if i add calories in a clear way probably i can't eat them for the nausea, it is a big shit

 

[Juiced_lizard]

The problem is that adding calories in a junk way without insulin means 100% you gain fat, if i add calories in a clear way probably i can't eat them for the nausea, it is a big shit

I mean bulking is going to add fat in the process. Muscle too yes but you get fat, water retention etc. That’s what happens when you add extra calories.

 

[strangegenericguy]

I mean bulking is going to add fat in the process. Muscle too yes but you get fat, water retention etc. That’s what happens when you add extra calories.

If i give you a 6500 calories diet without using insulin you will see what i mean when i tell adding fat , insulin is for that

 

[Enjoythements]

Wait, so you're saying you'll use insulin to eat junk and claim that you'll gain fat without it, but not with it? Where are you getting that info from?

You really need to be careful about what you eat, especially when using insulin. You have it twisted my friend.

Do you even know your FBG and Postprandial BG levels? How many carbs are you eating right now? How does your diet look like?

Am I just feeding a troll?

You mentioned you're coming out of a cutting phase, your body should be primed to absorb nutrients and be super insulin sensitive.

 

[strangegenericguy]

Wait, so you're saying you'll use insulin to eat junk and claim that you'll gain fat without it, but not with it? Where are you getting that info from?

You really need to be careful about what you eat, especially when using insulin. You have it twisted my friend.

Do you even know your FBG and Postprandial BG levels? How many carbs are you eating right now? How does your diet look like?

Am I just feeding a troll?

Don't misunderstand me, i don't eat totally junk, almost 1kg of beef per day man, but obviously to arrive at 6500 calories i Need to add some biscuits for example

 

[Enjoythements]

You don't even have a set diet, do you?
Yeah, I'd reconsider if I were you.

 

[strangegenericguy]

You don't even have a set diet, do you?
Yeah, I'd reconsider if I were you.

I have it, every meal is perfectly planned

 

[strangegenericguy]

I try to tell it in the easiest way possible, in the diet there are something like 700gr carbs, for that there is insulin, without insulin i change It 100%

 

[Stealth500]

do you have a bg monitor?

 

[Nidus]

Wait, so you're saying you'll use insulin to eat junk and claim that you'll gain fat without it, but not with it? Where are you getting that info from?

You really need to be careful about what you eat, especially when using insulin. You have it twisted my friend.

Do you even know your FBG and Postprandial BG levels? How many carbs are you eating right now? How does your diet look like?

Am I just feeding a troll?

You mentioned you're coming out of a cutting phase, your body should be primed to absorb nutrients and be super insulin sensitive.

This ^.

Before starting insulin and when running insulin you should measure your Homa and Hba1c monthly. Tracking your glucose levels fasted and after meals.
Obviously having a shit insulin resistance wont be fixed by adding more insulin
Esp. when GH is thrown on top.

OP sounds like he is missing the basic education and is not ready for it.

 

[strangegenericguy]

Tbh i don't know if i will continue with insulin, maybe i will reduce my calories and carbs intake because i don't trust so much insulin

This ^.

Before starting insulin and when running insulin you should measure your Homa and Hba1c monthly. Tracking your glucose levels fasted and after meals.
Obviously having a shit insulin resistance wont be fixed by adding more insulin
Esp. when GH is thrown on top.

OP sounds like he is missing the basic education and is not ready for it.

 

[RAW95]

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[Stealth500]

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