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chrisfam5 said:does anyone take insulin with there gear? i know it goes with the hgh, but does anyone just take it with test or anything? if so how much?
proken said:If you have to ask about the use and benefits and dangers of insulin, stay away from it. It's a loaded gun with a hair trigger. Leave it for the pro's. I know it's tempting, two of my budies usede it "wrong" one got fat over three months , the other went into a coma for a few hours, right as we were loading him in the car to go the er....he woke up, didn't know where he was etc. At least he got a Snickers bar to bring him around again! Please research, and reach the level you need to be at before you explore the insulin thing.
10 4 thats all i needed to here i aint fucken with it. thanksbig louie said:proken is right.. i researched it for at least a year before i started using..
you have got to be very disciplined when it comes to slin, incorrect use can cause fat gain and or death... its not for the novice...
Desibaba said:How do you avoid getting fat while on it???
dude2003 said:Just avoid fatty foods for several hours after. We take insulin because it will carry more protien and etc to the muscles. A downside is that it will also carry more fat to fat stores. You insulin levels are back to normal in a few hours, so just eat lean after you inject.
Oh ya, btw, this stuff will kill you.
einstein1905 said:Insulin is not as dangerous as people make it out to be. Why anyone would use anything other than humalog is beyond me. The potency per unit time of humalog is ideal for our needs as is its shorter window of activity. Overshoot the carbs per IU by 25% or so the first few times and ween yourself down to the right amount of simple carbs/IU for YOU. 10g/IU is simply a guideline. Don't take in fats during the window of activity and don't take it within 4.5 hours of bedtime to be safe. It wouldn't be a bad idea to monitor glucose levels before and after you begin taking slin. Read up on dextrose and maltodextrose (optional).
Slin for dummies:
lift...so you finish at least 5 hours before bedtime (so AM lifters are fine too)
immediately post w/o, take your slin (humalog) start w/2IU
w/in 10 min, take in 12.5g of dextrose in water/IU of slin (this ratio will decrease as you find your necessary glucose intake) You can also take your creatine/glutamine here too
After taking in the dextrose, be making your post w/o shake with ~100g of whey...no fats (save your omega 3,6,9 oils for later or earlier)
~1.5-2 hours later eat another high protein, no fat meal (solid). carbs here will be contingent upon how you feel, but some carbs are important.
This is not an endorsement in any way.
I don't have stock in humalog
insulin is dangerous to those who can't read or those who are too lazy to do so
TrapsBHuge said:Question for ya.
Would taking a carb drink like carb force work? It has 109grams carb " 33 sugars". Then 1 hour later eating a meal such as egg whites, cottage cheese "fat free", and veggies. Also if one overdoes the carbs will that make you fat like intaking fat does?
c-5 vette said:what are your typical gains off insulin?
Gains from it, as with anything, are individualized. You can run it alone or layered with a cycle. It has some great synergy when used with GH. it is extremely beneficial post w/o to restore muscle glycogen stores and for its general nutrient shuttling properties. it's also great in the AM to supress cortisol, which is at its peak in the AMjohnnyraw said:Bump for more info... Also do you run it with other aas or by itself?
