Is HGH overrated?

[MrLoop]

This guy is gonna fuck you up.

big pharma even says 3-6months. And be fucking careful taking dosing advice from people.

You can seriously fuck your self up with GH. Your dose is chill long term. Keep running it.

it's not a scam.. with 2 units of genotropin i had no noticeable change. my body only started to draw water after 4 i.u. from 8 units only noticeable muscle growth. If you really want to make progress, anything under 8 units is useless. and if you don't have the money for that amount, then you should leave it alone. I've been taking HGH for more than 10 years... a lot of experience with it and I say again 2 units is body's own production. and also please note the half-life of max. 5 hours. what should 2 units do? not even fat burning. you can tell you have no idea about the matter and absolutely no experience as far as HGH is concerned.

 

[Type-IIx]

it's not a scam.. with 2 units of genotropin i had no noticeable change. my body only started to draw water after 4 i.u. from 8 units only noticeable muscle growth. If you really want to make progress, anything under 8 units is useless. and if you don't have the money for that amount, then you should leave it alone. I've been taking HGH for more than 10 years... a lot of experience with it and I say again 2 units is body's own production. and also please note the half-life of max. 5 hours. what should 2 units do? not even fat burning. you can tell you have no idea about the matter and absolutely no experience as far as HGH is concerned.

It's true that 2 IU is a waste for someone in their 40s or younger. There is a steep decline in natural GH production after the adolescent growth spurt (from >3.6IU GH/day [and body surface area is lower than in an adult AAS-using bodybuilder]), and after that, it only gradually declines. There's not much difference between a 20 year old and 40 year old's natural GH. 2 IU 5 days/week is mere replacement for a 22 - 28 year old man.

 

[Ridethelightningbarefoot]

It is magic for me cause Im guessing I was difficient. Just like when I got on test I gained a lot of decent muscle without even lifting cause i was probably pretty low to begin with. On gh I got lean quick and I would blame the increase in strength and mass on gh as well but Im not 100% sure but I do know I am bigger and stronger than when I weighed more.

 

[Ongeere]

it's not a scam.. with 2 units of genotropin i had no noticeable change. my body only started to draw water after 4 i.u. from 8 units only noticeable muscle growth. If you really want to make progress, anything under 8 units is useless. and if you don't have the money for that amount, then you should leave it alone. I've been taking HGH for more than 10 years... a lot of experience with it and I say again 2 units is body's own production. and also please note the half-life of max. 5 hours. what should 2 units do? not even fat burning. you can tell you have no idea about the matter and absolutely no experience as far as HGH is concerned.

What threshold is most common for insulin resistance? Edema? At what point to people become diabetic?

Why the fuck are you telling people to do 8ius when a dose like that should be ran with slin.

You have no experience and you’re gonna fucking hurt someone so stop giving advice.

He needs a tailored regimen. Not some fuckin junkies advice off meso.

 

[lilhawk]

The fullness everyone talks about is just water.
Just water.

Thanks captain obvious. Who would have known?

 

[lilhawk]

It’s definitely not overrated. Honestly with GH the results get better and better the more you use and the longer you’re on it. 6-8iu per day of pharma GH is excellent, and I get no sides other than lethargy at times. Typically I use 4 iu constantly and bump it up to 6-8iu for periods. Metformin for insulin resistance keeps BG normal.

 

[MrLoop]

What threshold is most common for insulin resistance? Edema? At what point to people become diabetic?

Why the fuck are you telling people to do 8ius when a dose like that should be ran with slin.

You have no experience and you’re gonna fucking hurt someone so stop giving advice.

He needs a tailored regimen. Not some fuckin junkies advice off meso.

i know people who take 15 i.u and up and have never used a slin in their entire lives. including me . currently at 10 i.u and no problemd with increased sugar or insulin resistance. I can tell you're just talking bullshit. so you shouldn't express an opinion on it without hgh experiences like i have. you act like it's obligatory to use high doses of hgh only with slin. that shows you better keep your mouth shut.

 

[Tennessee123]

Well stated

I don't think that it's overrated, but I absolutely believe it's misunderstood. I don't think that guys, generally, understand fully its benefits and risks very often. I also think that individual differences (inter-individual variation) in efficacy & tolerability are substantial, with great variation between users.

RhGH use should be approached differently depending on whether the user is principally using it to enhance growth; to achieve fat loss; to enhance cardiorespiratory endurance or anaerobic capacity; to accelerate musculotendinous soft tissue healing; so-called "anti-aging" benefits (rooted in the assumption that the age-related decline in GH/IGF-I and aging mimics aspects of GH deficiency that can be reversed in part by rhGH), such as promoting more restful sleep, improving metabolic parameters, bone mineral density, etc.

I'll sometimes talk to guys that want to use rhGH, but abhor the fullness or "3D look" that it gives them; they even consider the use of diuretics. This is a clear case where rhGH just is not for this person. Retention of nitrogen, calcium, potassium, etc. & water is an indispensible step in how GH promotes anticatabolism & enhances protein balance.

 

[UncleBuns]

@Type-IIx Are there any threads or can you point me in a direction for info on GH "to accelerate musculotendinous soft tissue healing"?

I've been reading as much as I can but most Info I find is for growth or fat burning. Currently using 3iu pre bed as a shot in the dark hoping it works.

 

[hghlover]

@Type-IIx Are there any threads or can you point me in a direction for info on GH "to accelerate musculotendinous soft tissue healing"?

I've been reading as much as I can but most Info I find is for growth or fat burning. Currently using 3iu pre bed as a shot in the dark hoping it works.

For some reason he gets upset and defensive when you ask him to extrapolate on this subject.

From what I've been able to gather of knowledge, from endocronologists at other BB forums, daily doses of 3-6 iu HGH has been shown effective in aiding soft tissue repair, due to collagen synthesis, proliferation, IGF 1 etc.

It's definitely no miracle tho, but in conjunction with a solid physio rehab plan, massage, bpc 157 and so forth, it does help.

Here's a good place to start: AMA 3.0 Turbo-Charged ft El Chapo

 

[Type-IIx]

@Type-IIx Are there any threads or can you point me in a direction for info on GH "to accelerate musculotendinous soft tissue healing"?

I've been reading as much as I can but most Info I find is for growth or fat burning. Currently using 3iu pre bed as a shot in the dark hoping it works.

The problem for me is that this is straightforwardly medical advice, which I do not give.

People also seek out drug solutions to what are actually problems that require surgery. RhGH is inappropriate in all of these cases.

 

[Type-IIx]

For some reason he gets upset and defensive when you ask him to extrapolate on this subject.

From what I've been able to gather of knowledge, from endocronologists at other BB forums, daily doses of 3-6 iu HGH has been shown effective in aiding soft tissue repair, due to collagen synthesis, proliferation, IGF 1 etc.

It's definitely no miracle tho, but in conjunction with a solid physio rehab plan, massage, bpc 157 and so forth, it does help.

Here's a good place to start: AMA 3.0 Turbo-Charged ft El Chapo

I get irritated by your, and only your, persistent refusal to accept that I don't give medical advice, and that the matter is a medical problem. This very post demonstrates your continuing thickness on the matter.

 

[Zeus45]

the only thing i wish HGH did was give me an appetite increase like GHRP. So not only do i have to use HGH, but i have to use GHRP2/6 with the HGH so i eat enough food to grow. Insulin is in the mix as well.

 

[UncleBuns]

The problem for me is that this is straightforwardly medical advice, which I do not give.

People also seek out drug solutions to what are actually problems that require surgery. RhGH is inappropriate in all of these cases.

Thanks for answering. I do some athletics that are hard on tendons and ligaments. I'm not trying to heal an injury, just speed up recovery and strengthening of the tissues. I suppose an optimal recovery dose would achieve this. I'm going to try 3.33 iu nightly because it's a 1/3 of a vial and around the upper limit our bodies experience naturally. My body is handling 3 iu without a hiccup.

Thanks for sharing the knowledge!

 

[bigtyivier2k2]

I take 4 iu daily and am 35, people shoot me to be 25.

The recovery when rehabbing injuries is also VERY noticeable.

It definitely also seems to have a calming / anti stress effect, along with improving cognitive function (memory, focus etc).

Muscle mass and fat loss? Kinda meh...

Im 36 and in the gym yesterday in convo a teen who works there asked his friend how old he thinks I am. He said 35.

I went back to boxing with my trainer this week after time off since May for my shoulder that flares up everytime. By the 3rd session doing rounds of padwork the shoulder bothered me again.

 

[bigtyivier2k2]

the only thing i wish HGH did was give me an appetite increase like GHRP. So not only do i have to use HGH, but i have to use GHRP2/6 with the HGH so i eat enough food to grow. Insulin is in the mix as well.

Why not use mk677? A friend takes it and says hes hungry 24/7

 

[may2021]

it's not a scam.. with 2 units of genotropin i had no noticeable change. my body only started to draw water after 4 i.u. from 8 units only noticeable muscle growth. If you really want to make progress, anything under 8 units is useless. and if you don't have the money for that amount, then you should leave it alone. I've been taking HGH for more than 10 years... a lot of experience with it and I say again 2 units is body's own production. and also please note the half-life of max. 5 hours. what should 2 units do? not even fat burning. you can tell you have no idea about the matter and absolutely no experience as far as HGH is concerned.

Not a bodybuilder here though I have been lifting again for almost two years now. And, I've dabbled with it the past few years as I'm old, though I never went above 4ius for maybe a month: baseline is 2ius.

I'm curious though; when you went to 8ius, what did you start seeing in terms of growth, everything being equal.

Thanks

 

[may2021]

It’s definitely not overrated. Honestly with GH the results get better and better the more you use and the longer you’re on it. 6-8iu per day of pharma GH is excellent, and I get no sides other than lethargy at times. Typically I use 4 iu constantly and bump it up to 6-8iu for periods. Metformin for insulin resistance keeps BG normal.

Same question to you which I just asked MrLoop.
I'm curious exactly what you're seeing happening when you're at the 8iu dose.

Thanks

 

[MrLoop]

Not a bodybuilder here though I have been lifting again for almost two years now. And, I've dabbled with it the past few years as I'm old, though I never went above 4ius for maybe a month: baseline is 2ius.

I'm curious though; when you went to 8ius, what did you start seeing in terms of growth, everything being equal.

Thanks

my muscles looked fuller and plumper. I think the combination with steroids makes the whole thing a good mix. I don't think 8 i.u without steroids by the gram would be decisive

 

[may2021]

Not sure what ppl are talking abt saying anything less than 8iu a day is nothing, it works great at just 2-3iu a day if you are in it long enough. Recovery, fullness, and it makes your gear more effective, sort of like fueling the fire if you will. But it’s definitely no miracle drug, all the nonsense abt eat whatever you want and keep getting leaner is absolute bullshit

my muscles looked fuller and plumper. I think the combination with steroids makes the whole thing a good mix. I don't think 8 i.u without steroids by the gram would be decisive

Great.
Thank you bro