is low dose HCG every day for life safe???

[RedRec]

I saw on one of these posts that HCG at a dosage of 100 iu a day is okay to take for life, while on TRT. Is that true? (Safe meaning not desensitizing leydig cells plus low e2 surge). It's such a low dose i would think it should be okay.

I tried this dosage to see if my gyno would subside because I can't afford to take an AI due to lumbar osteoporosis.

I am presently injecting 25mg of test cyp eod, and 100 iu HCG every day but gyno seems to keep flaring up. (I know this is a low dose of T as well, but I've done up to 60mg e3d and never felt any better, even with arimidex to control e2. No morning wood, ED, low libido).

I plan on dropping down to 75 iu's HCG each day to see if gyno subsides.

My question is-- what's the lowest dosage of HCG one can take before it becomes useless (Not feeding the testes)?

Im thinking every person is different, but I'd like some feedback to maybe save me some time experimenting.

I'm also thinking a low dose of evista or nolva might help because it blocks gyno and helps osteoporosis. But is that okay to take long term.

My estradiol is extremely finiky and I don't seem to operate unless my e2 is at 20.

Any recommendations?

 

[zkt]

Dont know of any studies re. minimum hcg dose to produce receptor disregulation. I1m wondering why you are taking hcg in the first plsce if E2 is a problem. Hcg causes the testes to produce E2. Maybe you would benefit by stopping it altogether. might be the root of your problem. For osteoporosis or osteopenia Fosamax with calcium and vitamin d often slows or stops the progression.

I saw on one of these posts that HCG at a dosage of 100 iu a day is okay to take for life, while on TRT. Is that true? (Safe meaning not desensitizing leydig cells plus low e2 surge). It's such a low dose i would think it should be okay.

I tried this dosage to see if my gyno would subside because I can't afford to take an AI due to lumbar osteoporosis.

I am presently injecting 25mg of test cyp eod, and 100 iu HCG every day but gyno seems to keep flaring up. (I know this is a low dose of T as well, but I've done up to 60mg e3d and never felt any better, even with arimidex to control e2. No morning wood, ED, low libido).

I plan on dropping down to 75 iu's HCG each day to see if gyno subsides.

My question is-- what's the lowest dosage of HCG one can take before it becomes useless (Not feeding the testes)?

Im thinking every person is different, but I'd like some feedback to maybe save me some time experimenting.

I'm also thinking a low dose of evista or nolva might help because it blocks gyno and helps osteoporosis. But is that okay to take long term.

My estradiol is extremely finiky and I don't seem to operate unless my e2 is at 20.

Any recommendations?

 

[kenseth17cd]

I got decent results from 100ius of hcg e3d until two weeks into it and my e2 went up. 100 ius ed is too much for you. Cut back to 100 every 3d and stick to the low test dosage and get labs in a month.

 

[RedRec]

zkt: --I'm doing HCG because I don't want to lose my boys. I'm 43, and still might want to have kids one day. Plus I'd hate to slip into primary, or lose what limited ability I have of making my own T. Another reason is my boys rise too high without HCG, to the point where they are irritating, expecially during sex, they disappear into the front of my body. On HCG they hang normally, an esthetic feature I am comfortable with. (Just trying to find the best way to limit the e2 surge. my thinking is frequent lower doses would help.)

(Something interesting and funny that I noticed whether I'm on HCG or not. My boys are very tight from 10AM to around 3PM every day, then they hang lower until late at night when they are nice and comfortable. LOL. ...my girlfriend said it might have something to do with the tide. LMAO. ...Has anyone experienced this at all? ...I know it's strange, but it happens every day like clockwork.)

kenseth: --You're right. 100 iu HCG each day is too much. I read your history and I am rooting for you. I am trying to follow in your footsteps hoping to get that morning wood that I've been waiting years for. Only time I get it is on Cialis. But I have had a few instances of random erections throughout the day for no reason, just sitting around the house, without cialis. I hope it keeps up. Havent had them in years until I lowered my dosed to 25mg eod following what you did. I guess it's SHBG.

FYI-- I am not opposed to eod injections. Whatever will keep e2 down. Would you suggest 60 iu's eod over 100 iu's e3d? I am already doing eod T shot of 25 mg Cyp, so I don't ming frequent injections at all. I use an insulin syringe. Don't even feel it.

I'll do anything to have my body running like it should. Just can't figure it out. If this doesn't work I am honsetly thinking of giving the shit up all together. Constant juggling with no reward has got me to the point of saying fuck it.

At a t level of 228 I can honestly say I didn't feel much better than I did with a T level of 750, 800, 950, even 1250.

 

[LW64]

Optimize your T-replacement protocol before trying to add in HCG. You should be able to adjust your dose and frequency to get a stable T level with acceptable lab results with T only. No HCG. No AI. .

Once you do that, then you try adding in HCG. If that doesnt work, you have to consider alternating between T only and HCG only protocols if you want to maintain testicular size.

 

[nique2188]

Optimize your T-replacement protocol before trying to add in HCG. You should be able to adjust your dose and frequency to get a stable T level with acceptable lab results with T only. No HCG. No AI. .

Once you do that, then you try adding in HCG. If that doesnt work, you have to consider alternating between T only and HCG only protocols if you want to maintain testicular size.

Hey man. I sent a message with some questions, unless you want me to post them here instead, let me know.

 

[graniteman]

After reading your post I have more questions than answers. Why are you pinning such a low dose of a long ester so frequently? The amounts of the long ester your pinning seem to me , I could be wrong, to be destroying your tt levels. You're pinning approx 75 - 100 mg's of test per week plus hcg which can to a point aromatize, with no ai? I don't see any way for your body to reach good levels. Seems your shutting down your natty production with exo test in less amounts than your body would produce on it's own. Try 150 minimum tes cyp per week with 250 - 500 iu's hcg for a mont and see the difference. IMO you're better off dropping your current protocol altogether, you'll def feel better.

 

[blazinshotguns]

Hcg 250 iu 3 times a week didn't do shit to my e2 levels .