Is this normal?

[SHOGUNS]

Bros, I wake up and eat 8oz of oatmeal and 5 whole eggs. This is followed by ECA, 25mg var, milk thistle, multi vit, vit's c, e, b5, and ala. I drink a protein shake with 10 grams of creatine. If it,s injection day I take 500mgs enanthate. (2X a week). I take paxil, wellbutrin, proscar, and .25 of arimidex. Another dose of var and all other supplements. At night I take a 10 mgr to sleep. Forgot to mention the 4 cups of coffee in the morning. I look great, 6' 1" 240, and no visual side effects. The point is, can ingesting all of this everyday be healthy. I do all of this for recreation. Never did a show. I am 41yo. How long can this go on

 

[headlinerguy01]

Bros, I wake up and eat 8oz of oatmeal and 5 whole eggs. This is followed by ECA, 25mg var, milk thistle, multi vit, vit's c, e, b5, and ala. I drink a protein shake with 10 grams of creatine. If it,s injection day I take 500mgs enanthate. (2X a week). I take paxil, wellbutrin, proscar, and .25 of arimidex. Another dose of var and all other supplements. At night I take a 10 mgr to sleep. Forgot to mention the 4 cups of coffee in the morning. I look great, 6' 1" 240, and no visual side effects. The point is, can ingesting all of this everyday be healthy. I do all of this for recreation. Never did a show. I am 41yo. How long can this go on

I wouldnt be using steroids while using anti depressants. I feel like with all those drugs along with the caffine (which is a drug too as we all know) is going to hurt you. Why B5? Should be popping B6 and B12. Not to be a huge asshole here, but it seems like you have no clue what you're doing. Try some cardio rather than that ECA. It's 11pm and I would type more, but I'm about to pop in the Dave Chappelle dvd.

J.J.

I'm Rick James. bitch!

 

[SHOGUNS]

[Dude, B5 is for acne prevention. MULTI CONTAINS B6 AND12. Itake b12 injections. ANTI-DEPRESSANTS ARE KEEPING MY BRAIN FIRING ON ALL CYLINDERS. I feel great. I JUST THINK THAT MANY PEOPLE IN THIS LIFESTYLE TAKE THEIR LONG TERM HEALTH FOR GRANTED. i KNOW WHAT i AM DOING, BUT HONESTLY DON'T KNOW HOW LONG THIS CAN GO ON AND REMAIN HEALTHY. i DIDN'T START THIS LIFESTYLE UNTIL i WAS 37 YO. tHE POINT OF THE POST WAS TO GIVE EVERYONE A LITTLE SELF EXAMINATION. BE SMART AND CAREFUL. LIFE IS PRECIOUS AND GOES BY VERY FAST.I do 30 minutes of cardio 3X a week. ECA is used mainly for workout intensity. I've beeen training for 20 years. Was a solid 230 before touching aas. Don't tell me I don't know what I'm doing.
I'm a personal trainer for many prominent people, and their results are my credentials. I have learned a lot from this and other boards, and am grateful for the knowledge that gets thrown around here daily. PEACE





QUOTE=headlinerguy01]I wouldnt be using steroids while using anti depressants. I feel like with all those drugs along with the caffine (which is a drug too as we all know) is going to hurt you. Why B5? Should be popping B6 and B12. Not to be a huge asshole here, but it seems like you have no clue what you're doing. Try some cardio rather than that ECA. It's 11pm and I would type more, but I'm about to pop in the Dave Chappelle dvd.

J.J.

I'm Rick James. bitch![/QUOTE]

 

[headlinerguy01]

30 minutes of cardio and only 3 times a week? Where did you get your "certification" from, a Cracker Jacks box? A multivitamin contains only a certain percentage of b6 and b12. Do you know how much B6 should be taken while lifting? I'm sorry that you felt I was being too harsh my first posting, but let it be known that I'm being harsh on this one. You're 40+ years old and messing around with anabolics. Doesn't make sense. What are you going to do for PCT? Hope you have something planed, or else you wont be able to naturally "skeet skeet skeet" for a very long time.

 

[PUMPED]

headlinerguy...you sound like a 17 year old the way you are speaking

"30 minutes of cardio and only 3 times a week? Where did you get your "certification" from, a Cracker Jacks box?"

are you even certified? becuase if you were you would know this is enough cardio to keep your bodyfat low, and stay healthy cardiovascular wise...

"A multivitamin contains only a certain percentage of b6 and b12. Do you know how much B6 should be taken while lifting? "

he is honestly not taking deca, tren, abombs so he does not need to take b-6, he takes b-12 injections which is the only way to absorb enough b-12 into your body, and as b-5 is used for acne which you just showed us you had no knowledge of..

"I'm sorry that you felt I was being too harsh my first posting, but let it be known that I'm being harsh on this one."

you must be a real respected bro on meso with this statement

"You're 40+ years old and messing around with anabolics. Doesn't make sense"

does not make sense?, don't you know at what age most men start start HRT? also he has built a great base before he started AS use, this obviously makes no sense to you since you lack knowldege aqbout AS

Now shogun if you are not already, i would think about getting regular blood tests done to make sure your liver and kidneys are still functioning well..

 

[Edbaseball]

30 minutes of cardio and only 3 times a week? Where did you get your "certification" from, a Cracker Jacks box? A multivitamin contains only a certain percentage of b6 and b12. Do you know how much B6 should be taken while lifting? I'm sorry that you felt I was being too harsh my first posting, but let it be known that I'm being harsh on this one. You're 40+ years old and messing around with anabolics. Doesn't make sense. What are you going to do for PCT? Hope you have something planed, or else you wont be able to naturally "skeet skeet skeet" for a very long time.

I am over 40 and I take anabolics! I bet you will find a great number of Meso Bros over the age of 40 Use!!

 

[freak]

shoguns- as long as you want as long you know what your doing and stay on top of those blood level readings.
6'1-#240's - good job bro, lot of guys here wish they were 240, wonder what headliner looks like.
Don't let anybody flame you and get you down bro, keep rolling.
I'm 35yoa, 5'11-#235's. Didn't start my first cycle until I was 30. So fuck'm.

 

[Paulo]

I think antidepressants are total shit. But, that's just been my experience. Instead of giving me bloodtests for all my various symptoms, they just said I was depressed and handed me zoloft, or effexor, etc. Finally, I said fuck off and got my own blood tests done and found that I had near critical low levels of testosterone and less than snappy levels of IGF. A month after starting test replacement therapy, I have no need for anti-depressants, not like they worked that well anyhow. lol. But, my point is, that I feel they merely cover up the symptoms instead of treating the root.

6 months after going off of anti-d's I am finally starting to get my emotions back and have stopped feeling so fucking numb all the time.

But if they help you, that's all that matters,

I would lay off the coffee a bit, that's my main suggestion and yeah get some bloodwork done, its cheap and one of the best things you can do for your body.

good luck bro!

btw,

headliner bro needs to read some books. While my instance of low T is extremely rare, due to my age (23), men 40 and over are prime candidates for testosterone supplementation. If you were so fucking smart you would have known that.

peace.