I've been homebrewing for years, but I've been overthinking and may have outsmarted myself! Correction help requested.

[Big Country 056]

I’ve been home brewing for years, but lately, PIP has been more and more of an issue.

Recently, I think I kind of outsmarted myself trying to brew a higher concentration with less PIP.

I did Test E 300mg/mL, Deca 300mg/mL, and Mast P 200 mg/mL.

I got all three to hold at 1%/15% BA/BB and re-filtered everything. Then I used it and HOLY PIP, Batman!!! I have always assumed that the PIP that I experienced in the past was due to the solvent, and if I could use less, the pain would be solved... Apparently not!

Now, 2 weeks (and numerous painful injections later) the Test and Deca are holding, but the Mast has started to crash.

I went back and did the math for the amount of each compound that I have and altered them all to 2%/20% BA/BB and it's STILL painful, but not nearly as inflammatory.

Do I need to add BA, BB or both? Or do I just need to bite the bullet and add oil to bring the concentrations down to more "conventional" volumes (Test to 200, Deca to 200, Mast to 100)?

I’ve never needed to correct a brew, and apparently I'm not that great at it, but I really can’t stand another 8 weeks of this!

Thanks in advance for any help.

 

[Photon]

Deca should not pip.
Test E by itself has pip. Its a common issue with raws. Switch to C or D.
Mast P is too high, try 150 or lower.

 

[Ghoul]

How old are your raws?

 

[Sampei]

I’ve been home brewing for years, but lately, PIP has been more and more of an issue.

Recently, I think I kind of outsmarted myself trying to brew a higher concentration with less PIP.

I did Test E 300mg/mL, Deca 300mg/mL, and Mast P 200 mg/mL.

I got all three to hold at 1%/15% BA/BB and re-filtered everything. Then I used it and HOLY PIP, Batman!!! I have always assumed that the PIP that I experienced in the past was due to the solvent, and if I could use less, the pain would be solved... Apparently not!

Now, 2 weeks (and numerous painful injections later) the Test and Deca are holding, but the Mast has started to crash.

I went back and did the math for the amount of each compound that I have and altered them all to 2%/20% BA/BB and it's STILL painful, but not nearly as inflammatory.

Do I need to add BA, BB or both? Or do I just need to bite the bullet and add oil to bring the concentrations down to more "conventional" volumes (Test to 200, Deca to 200, Mast to 100)?

I’ve never needed to correct a brew, and apparently I'm not that great at it, but I really can’t stand another 8 weeks of this!

Thanks in advance for any help.

Deca I brew it at 400mg with zero pip. So there is something wrong with your deca raw or the PIP is coming from the other substances, did you pin the deca alone? Or mixed with the other oils?

 

[Big Country 056]

Deca should not pip.
Test E by itself has pip. Its a common issue with raws. Switch to C or D.
Mast P is too high, try 150 or lower.

Noted...I'll switch to Cyp and dilute the Mast to 150.
Thank you.

How old are your raws?

Less than 90 days in my hands.

Deca I brew it at 400mg with zero pip. So there is something wrong with your deca raw or the PIP is coming from the other substances, did you pin the deca alone? Or mixed with the other oils?

After reading all three responses, I'm sure that thee PIP is coming from the Test and/or Mast. I typically inject more than one at a time, so when I do my next round, I'll note where the deca goes and make sure it goes in alone.


Thank you all for your replies, they are much appreciated! I'll make the noted corrections and let you know how it goes.

 

[eery]

i suspect you have some dodgy test enathate with that heptanoic acid leftovers in it.

 

[Big Country 056]

i suspect you have some dodgy test enathate with that heptanoic acid leftovers in it.

If that is the case, can those impurities be neutralized or filtered out? This isn’t something that I’ve encountered in the past.

 

[pipo]

If that is the case, can those impurities be neutralized or filtered out? This isn’t something that I’ve encountered in the past.

No

 

[eery]

If that is the case, can those impurities be neutralized or filtered out? This isn’t something that I’ve encountered in the past.

No, the raws are pretty much useless as far as i know at that point.

Its been an issue with most of the testosterone enanthate raws coming out of china the past 3-4 years now and it doesnt look like its been fixed yet, to my surprise. If anyone knows anything more about the state and status on the testosterone enathate raws, please post.

where did you get these raws from?

 

[pipo]

No, the raws are pretty much useless as far as i know at that point.

Its been an issue with most of the testosterone enanthate raws coming out of china the past 3-4 years now and it doesnt look like its been fixed yet, to my surprise. If anyone knows anything more about the state and status on the testosterone enathate raws, please post.

where did you get these raws from?

It's at least 7 years this situation. Some guys said 10+ years but I can tell you 7 for sure as then I started to notice this problem with test e
A long time but there are people who don't know and buy and take test e and wonder what is wrong

 

[Big Country 056]

Your raw material.to

 

[Big Country 056]

Well, that did it! Or at least seems to have done it.
Another smooth application of Cyp yesterday, and I did the re-worked Mast (added BA/BB to reach 2/20 and added oil to go from 200mg to 150mg).
No pain this morning.

Thanks so much for the input, guys!

 

[Pez'sAnabolicJunta]

I’ve been home brewing for years, but lately, PIP has been more and more of an issue.

Recently, I think I kind of outsmarted myself trying to brew a higher concentration with less PIP.

I did Test E 300mg/mL, Deca 300mg/mL, and Mast P 200 mg/mL.

I got all three to hold at 1%/15% BA/BB and re-filtered everything. Then I used it and HOLY PIP, Batman!!! I have always assumed that the PIP that I experienced in the past was due to the solvent, and if I could use less, the pain would be solved... Apparently not!

Now, 2 weeks (and numerous painful injections later) the Test and Deca are holding, but the Mast has started to crash.

I went back and did the math for the amount of each compound that I have and altered them all to 2%/20% BA/BB and it's STILL painful, but not nearly as inflammatory.

Do I need to add BA, BB or both? Or do I just need to bite the bullet and add oil to bring the concentrations down to more "conventional" volumes (Test to 200, Deca to 200, Mast to 100)?

I’ve never needed to correct a brew, and apparently I'm not that great at it, but I really can’t stand another 8 weeks of this!

Thanks in advance for any help.

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