whats the best way to run it for 2 weeks? these stubborn love handles won't go away no matter what i do, and DNP made me feel like shit so i don't want to go there again
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I've got some T3 and Clen coming
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FR0Z3N_B0MB3RRR
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I m waiting for some raw Clen to make it injectable, i heard its good for spot fat reduction
anyway i would run a very low dose of t3 because its easy to mess up with Thyroid, maybe i would go for 20mcgs 2 days on 2 offs, and Clen i would start at 40mcgs ED and then moving up like 40mcgs x 2 then x 3 times daily.. also Clen 2 days on 2 off... and i ll run even Ketotifen .. an anti hystamine that seems to increase Beta receptors... that will be decreased in number using Clen... a stupid adaptation made by the body when a potential harmful substance is taken
anyway i would run a very low dose of t3 because its easy to mess up with Thyroid, maybe i would go for 20mcgs 2 days on 2 offs, and Clen i would start at 40mcgs ED and then moving up like 40mcgs x 2 then x 3 times daily.. also Clen 2 days on 2 off... and i ll run even Ketotifen .. an anti hystamine that seems to increase Beta receptors... that will be decreased in number using Clen... a stupid adaptation made by the body when a potential harmful substance is taken
genixcon
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I’ve never seen one case of someone hurting their thyroid on t3. Ive never found a case study either, matter of fact ncbi has article stating that people who were on thryroid medication in treatment for depression had no issues of recovery.
I know it gets spouted on these forums, still waiting for some proof of it.
genixcon
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I’ve run t3, clen and tren together at least once a year for the past 5 years, no recovery issues in blood work with tsh at all.
genixcon
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If you’re not cycle you’ll see some muscle loss for sure. I’ve never run it off cycle but I’ve seen it first hand. You’ll go catabolic pretty quick without some gear.
I run 50mcg t3 and I don’t go above 80 mcg on clen. I run t3 constantly but I cycle the clen 2 weeks on 2 weeks off.
Tren, gh, cardarine are my staples in when i run t3 and clen but I’ve done it with primo and anavar and had good results also.
Gbro
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Injecting clean will not make it into a spot fat reducing agent.
FR0Z3N_B0MB3RRR
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You have proof of that? Did you inject real Clen and didnt see anything?
anyway i know 2 people that fucked up for ever their thyroid with overdosing it... but you guys as always can feel free to do everything you want
genixcon
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Taken directly from the Harvard medical site.
“What should you do if you have borderline low thyroid levels that cause uncomfortable symptoms but don’t meet the guidelines for treatment? “Use thyroid hormone for a brief period of time,” recommends Dr. Gerber. “If you feel better, you can continue with treatment. If not, then stop.”
All treatment for hypothyroidism, even borderline cases, must be individualized and monitored carefully by a physician. That requires measuring TSH four to eight weeks after starting treatment or changing a dose, another TSH test after six months, then every 12 months.”
Because their are few studies involving T3 and T4 with people who don’t have thyroid issues, it’s hard to find info.
Right now if you have a low producing thyroid they will give you a T4 treatment and see if you feel better, if you don’t they stop the treatment and you go back to just low production. They wouldn’t offer this if the chance was great that you would be ruing your thyroid.
The whole don’t mess your thyroid is BS. Turns out it is very durable and almost impossible to mess up on your own with the recommended dosages and scheduling.
Just ASF Kentucky Fried Rat.... urban myth perpetually kicked around with no proof
thanks for the information guys...i appreciate this
Mdrock98
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Mdrock98
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Eat clean and train. Stop relying on gear to get to where you want to be. Especially involving loosing your love handles.
FR0Z3N_B0MB3RRR
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yeah man i meant overdosing T3... as stated i know 2 crazy guys that overdosed everything, from aas to t3 and fucked up their thyroid...they didnt use 20-40mcg 2 days on 2 days off or something similar
FR0Z3N_B0MB3RRR
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Why not? Clen is unesterified, and if you inject it into fat tissue it ll find Beta receptors to bond into... i m waiting to try it and will let you know how it ll turn... but since Dan Duchain suggested it, Helios has been developed and i read about a lot of great feedbacks. since i dont care about theory , i care about facts, finding legit raw Clen seems to be almost impossible nowadays, so maybe some guys tried fake stuff and they didnt inject real Clen. In medicine there are also testosterone base injection into synovial caps, because without ester , test will bond to albumin, shbg, and the receptors it will find. Botox too is meant to be used in specifics sites. Injecting Clen is different than injecting Testosterone Enanthate. Anyway, ill find the truth myself... strongly hope to dont end up disappointed and have to write here “you guys were right, sorry”
that's what i've been doing...along with cycles...but this is one stubborn area for me, and this is a different approach i'm taking.
Mdrock98
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Wish you luck
FR0Z3N_B0MB3RRR
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Low estrogens and quitting eating saturated fats doing ketogenic diet worked for me...
Unpopular opinion
Especially on Meso...
BUT
If your diet is on point
You're making gains
Losing fat.
Nothing wrong with a little helper on occasion.
I do it.
If I got fat and weak everytime I was off cycle, I'd understand your point... and it's a good GENERAL rule of thumb.
Yeah, i don't have the cleanest diet in the world...but i don't eat junk..i do have a weakness for lays potato chips though, but this is a " trouble spot" for me and cleanses, dieting and training hasn't eliminated it...so i'm gonna try this for 2 weeks...see what happens
FR0Z3N_B0MB3RRR
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you can overcome that weakness “restructuring” the concept oh those potatoes... dont look at them as if they re good thing to have in your life and that can give you great moments and emotions... start hating them... think that those potatoes are your enemy... they wanna make you fat... they wanna let your abs disappear... and you spend for them also... aha it sounds funny but as stated in other posts when i read on a Chris Aceto’s book that saturated fats do ruin muscular cells insulin receptors i all of a sudden started hating cheese and other sat fatty things that i loved A LOT.
fuck McDonald... fuck Burger King... fuck Pringles... fuck Melted Cheese etc... i started cooking fit recipes with 0% fat cheese and unsaturated fats like Avocado etc... i dont need anymore junky foods since i now i m eating a lot of very tasty clean stuff... i use sucralose, free fat yogurt or cheese and make some dessert with raw cocoa etc... i made a fit guacamole with a free fat cheese avocado lime garlic pepper and salt... i ate it with some roasted spicy chicken or other tricky fit foods... like a broccoli “tortilla” and so on... i prefer abs and veins popping up than stupid foods... fuck cheeseburgers... i make my own burger with 100% lean meat and free calories spicy sauce...
Well said bro..
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