So, here's the story of Jano and my experience with him. I was contemplation not going this route AND handle it privately BUT, now he's trying to insult my intelligence by giving me some bull crap story. I will share with you.
I sent Jano three samples of GH (TP's black TOP meditrope batch #17) for testing. The reason we/he wanted to check his testing with the current AAA testing that myself and @Dr JIM are using. Of course our testing isn't any good by Jano's standard and a few others from PM.
So, I got a private message from Jano that my package was stuck in customs and asked if I used my real address. I skated around the question and told him it was not my address. He said no worries he could get it out of customs no problem and he would test it.
I was supposed to tell him when I received the testing back from our lab to compare to his. Here is our convo on that...
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Yesterday I get a call from my GF and she says did you get something for Christmas from the Czech Republic. I told her to leave it at the door.
I get home and take a look at it and wow I open it and look inside to my amazement the package and (3) gh vials #17 were in the pack. right where I put them. Wrapped up in a two band aids I put them in with all the contents that were in the package I sent.
So, I contact one person by phone this morning from MESO(that I trust). Then I get on encrypted message and talk to two other members from PM and MESO. I told one straight out and mentioned to the other but didn't really give his name. I contacted for their opinion on the matter.
I highly doubt they PM members told him. But, I did get a PM from him stating this...
PM below...
1. Why would you be adamant about what address I used(fake or real)? I know why... That was you could tell me you tested my vials and get away with it if customs wasn't sending it back to a real address.
2. Why would you take the package back down to customs after being called to return it? Just tell them you tossed it. Oh but you were out of town and GF took it. If they threatened you with arrest why would they give it to you in the first place. lol
3. Why would you not tell me this story about customs or your gf switching vials with one of mine? Pretty important info I would think. And you were PM'ing me EOD at least at one point so it's not like we weren't in communication.
4. Why not take all three vials out and replace them with three from your stash if you wanted to test all three vials? I know because it didn't happen. My original band aids holding the vials together were still in there along will all of my other components.
This one bothers me as well...
"As I asked you previously if that was your address and you negated it, I simply assumed the pack would bounce and get trashed, so I didn't bother with explaining all this - which seems now like a mistake on my side.
To be honest, I though I mentioned that to you, but it seems I talked about that with somebody else or misremembered it completely, as it's not in our message history, so I was wrong."
You state that you thought it would get trashed so you didn't bother explaining it. BUT, to be honest you thought you did mention it. lol So you mentioned to somebody you are getting packages from me? WTF. Oh wait you now maybe "misremembered" it completely hahahahaha.
So many more but at this point anything you say will not change my mind on what has transpired here.
Sorry so long.
mands
I sent Jano three samples of GH (TP's black TOP meditrope batch #17) for testing. The reason we/he wanted to check his testing with the current AAA testing that myself and @Dr JIM are using. Of course our testing isn't any good by Jano's standard and a few others from PM.
So, I got a private message from Jano that my package was stuck in customs and asked if I used my real address. I skated around the question and told him it was not my address. He said no worries he could get it out of customs no problem and he would test it.
I was supposed to tell him when I received the testing back from our lab to compare to his. Here is our convo on that...
- janoActive Member
Hello Mr. Mands.
I just checked and the package seem to have been stopped by customs.
Would you please describe the package completely to me please? So I can decide if I should try picking it up, or if it's too big a risk.
I apologise for the trouble.
jano, Oct 23, 2016Report
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mandsWell-Known MemberAnabolicLab.com Supporter
EDITED TOO MUCH INFO. Took out some product and placed 3 vials in there wrapped up.
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janoActive Member
Were the vials marked in any way except the batch # ?
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mandsWell-Known MemberAnabolicLab.com Supporter
Nope only batch#
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janoActive Member
Thank you, I'll try to pick them up tomorrow.
jano, Oct 24, 2016Report
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janoActive Member
Hello Mr. Mands,
regarding the return address - did you provide your real address?
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mandsWell-Known MemberAnabolicLab.com Supporter
I provided a real address but not my home.
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janoActive Member
Good, they had the address noted down, for some reason, just thought I'd warn you.
Give or take a few hours and I'll be ready
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mandsWell-Known MemberAnabolicLab.com Supporter
Okay! Noted where?
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janoActive Member
"Contact sender for more informaiton" at the customs.
They only gave it to me, because I am registered lab, but I might suffering some consequences due to the samples being found out.
The stealth was good, it was just a bad coincidence
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thanks
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mandsWell-Known MemberAnabolicLab.com Supporter
Okay I'm ready when you are. How did those Black tops turn out for you.
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janoActive Member
I tested #17 three times:
5.2mg was the average result.
A vial from your kit was 5.27mg
So it seems that you consistently get lower results than me and I am very confident in my results.
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Yesterday I get a call from my GF and she says did you get something for Christmas from the Czech Republic. I told her to leave it at the door.
I get home and take a look at it and wow I open it and look inside to my amazement the package and (3) gh vials #17 were in the pack. right where I put them. Wrapped up in a two band aids I put them in with all the contents that were in the package I sent.
So, I contact one person by phone this morning from MESO(that I trust). Then I get on encrypted message and talk to two other members from PM and MESO. I told one straight out and mentioned to the other but didn't really give his name. I contacted for their opinion on the matter.
I highly doubt they PM members told him. But, I did get a PM from him stating this...
PM below...
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janoActive Member
Well well well.
Seems like my lack of communication led you to believe I did lie to you, as you've suggested I am a liar in the thread. I apologize for that and I think it had been pointed out because the package seems to have bounced back to you just now.
If that's not the case, please, don't feel like having to read any further - though it will not hurt.
As I have let you know two months ago already, the customs had expressed great interest about the package and gave me trouble regarding it both before and after I got it.
A few days later, before I got to the analysis or opening the package at all, they called me while I was away about either charging me with importing faked medicine or gave me the option to return the package intact to the sender.
I had my gf switch one of the vials with one of the spare vials of #17 I had acquired previously for different test and had her carry the package to the customs office to have it shipped back. The customs had pictures of the contents of the package, so it had to be returned 'whole'.
As I asked you previously if that was your address and you negated it, I simply assumed the pack would bounce and get trashed, so I didn't bother with explaining all this - which seems now like a mistake on my side.
To be honest, I though I mentioned that to you, but it seems I talked about that with somebody else or misremembered it completely, as it's not in our message history, so I was wrong.
Had I not checked the state of the package after I had read your passively agressive post in the thread, this could've been left unexplained and I would hate that.
Please, next time, if there is one, confront me directly out in the open, even if it will make me look like an idiot - it's better to look like one than to leave stuff like this unexplained.
With best regards,
janoshik
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I still stand past my results, as always.
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mandsWell-Known MemberAnabolicLab.com Supporter
I didn't threaten you in the open. You assumed it was you cause you lied about testing my vials or one of the two persons I told from PM told you already. I will handle that next.
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1. Why would you be adamant about what address I used(fake or real)? I know why... That was you could tell me you tested my vials and get away with it if customs wasn't sending it back to a real address.
2. Why would you take the package back down to customs after being called to return it? Just tell them you tossed it. Oh but you were out of town and GF took it. If they threatened you with arrest why would they give it to you in the first place. lol
3. Why would you not tell me this story about customs or your gf switching vials with one of mine? Pretty important info I would think. And you were PM'ing me EOD at least at one point so it's not like we weren't in communication.
4. Why not take all three vials out and replace them with three from your stash if you wanted to test all three vials? I know because it didn't happen. My original band aids holding the vials together were still in there along will all of my other components.
This one bothers me as well...
"As I asked you previously if that was your address and you negated it, I simply assumed the pack would bounce and get trashed, so I didn't bother with explaining all this - which seems now like a mistake on my side.
To be honest, I though I mentioned that to you, but it seems I talked about that with somebody else or misremembered it completely, as it's not in our message history, so I was wrong."
You state that you thought it would get trashed so you didn't bother explaining it. BUT, to be honest you thought you did mention it. lol So you mentioned to somebody you are getting packages from me? WTF. Oh wait you now maybe "misremembered" it completely hahahahaha.
So many more but at this point anything you say will not change my mind on what has transpired here.
Sorry so long.
mands