Janoshik Analytical laboratory testing services

Hi @janoshik

I'm planning to send in some troche lozenges, however it'll probably melt along the way given that it's summer. It may arrive either as a solid or liquid. Each troche is .33g, I can melt a couple and put in a vial, what would be an optimum sample size? 1ml?

When emailing for quote, should i specify if its an OIL, SUSPENSION or TROCHE?
 
I wonder if there’s a possibility to set up freight forwarding batch services in each country? Like a monthly shipment of everyone’s samples together.

The actual service is great but I always feel a bit scared when shipping the AAS oil because of customs etc and clearly other people are having some problems with shipping as well.

Maybe it’s more safe with the current system, idk. Just an idea.
 
I wonder if there’s a possibility to set up freight forwarding batch services in each country? Like a monthly shipment of everyone’s samples together.

The actual service is great but I always feel a bit scared when shipping the AAS oil because of customs etc and clearly other people are having some problems with shipping as well.

Maybe it’s more safe with the current system, idk. Just an idea.

That sounds significantly riskier.

Anyone got a outbound pack to Jano get lost before?

Ive got about 10 samples with no tracking updates for a week, Its pretty much lost by now and UPS has told me to file a claim. (Like what am i going to claim? lol 10 vials? of mysterious substance worth..$1?)

I'm hoping PirateShip will just refund but I havn't gone that route yet.

For incoming packs, you'd usually wait for a while and they'd turn up..but is this still the case when sending out? Its stuck somewhere in US..

Just to update, my pack started moving again.
Was stuck at the same location for over > a week.
:cool:
 
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Hi @janoshik

I'm planning to send in some troche lozenges, however it'll probably melt along the way given that it's summer. It may arrive either as a solid or liquid. Each troche is .33g, I can melt a couple and put in a vial, what would be an optimum sample size? 1ml?

When emailing for quote, should i specify if its an OIL, SUSPENSION or TROCHE?
Well, sending them separately as a troche would be the best.
Melting them is not a good idea. We've tested troches before.
 
I wonder if there’s a possibility to set up freight forwarding batch services in each country? Like a monthly shipment of everyone’s samples together.

The actual service is great but I always feel a bit scared when shipping the AAS oil because of customs etc and clearly other people are having some problems with shipping as well.

Maybe it’s more safe with the current system, idk. Just an idea.
We've considered it before, but right now we feel the great amount of group tests we handle take care of that pretty well.
 
That sounds significantly riskier.



Just to update, my pack started moving again.
Was stuck at the same location for over > a week.
:cool:
Glad to hear your pack is moving! Cheers





Our mailbox team is a little bit overwhelmed at the moment, but as of tomorrow, their department is doubling in manpower. Please, be nice to the new girls you all! :)
 
I saw this the other day. Jano might of thought this was an opportunity for free advertising but IMO it was a stupid move to be apart of that article.

I was curious about that too. Compounders took plenty of margin from pharma. Now the "gray" market right there in the open with many news articles. So "gray" market now directly taking margin from pharma and compounders. I can see the congressional hearings now.

Perhaps we will get to see a senator demo proper technique with 0.2 um filter, lol.
 
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Just curious as to why?

Security in obscurity.

Most people don't seem to be aware international shipments from the US go through an "outbound customs" process, with data collected by CBP including shipper and destination.

In the federal court docs for a couple of busts of steroid labs/sellers, the feds mention records of packages being sent from the defendants to a lab in central Europe "known for testing anabolic steroids".

This wasn't how they got busted, but was used as corroborating evidence for search warrants.

But that's from several years ago, and the result of a manual search done after the fact by investigators who knew what they looking for.

Now you've got CBP's vast AI systems scraping data from tens of thousands public sources online, including social media.

These systems are optimized for recognizing patterns that can be used to identify individuals and cargo of concern. Agents can also "suggest" connections to "seed" searches,

So for instance. Let's say you have an AAS lab in the US who routinely posts Jano lab results on MESO. (and yes, thinksteroids content is definately is being scraped, it's quoted as a source on numerous GPTs).

CBPs "Automated Targeting System" AI can take the "Date Received" off the dozens of tests posted publicly and scraped into their database.

Then correlate those dates to a shipper in the US who sent samples to the address of the "known European lab".

Unless the shipper took steps to mask their identity, AND payment is made via some anonymized method, they're easily identified.

It doesn't matter if the dates the packs landed don't precisely match the "received date" on the test. A shipper in the US who's sent 20 packs to Jano, and the dates the packs arrived are close to the received date on 20 publicly posted test results can be easily identified. It's not going to be a coincidence.

May be a good idea going forward to keep the "received" date off test results entirely and limit to month and year for test results, to preserve anonymity.
 
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Security in obscurity.

Most people don't seem to be aware international shipments from the US go through an "outbound customs" process, with data collected by CBP including shipper and destination.

In the federal court docs for a couple of busts of steroid labs/sellers, the feds mention records of packages being sent from the defendants to a lab in central Europe "known for testing anabolic steroids".

This wasn't how they got busted, but was used as corroborating evidence for search warrants.

But that's from several years ago, and the result of a manual search done after the fact by investigators who knew what they looking for.

Now you've got CBP's vast AI systems scraping data from tens of thousands public sources online, including social media.

These systems are optimized for recognizing patterns that can be used to identify individuals and cargo of concern. Agents can also "suggest" connections to "seed" searches,

So for instance. Let's say you have an AAS lab in the US who routinely posts Jano lab results on MESO. (and yes, thinksteroids content is definately is being scraped, it's quoted as a source on numerous GPTs).

CBPs "Automated Targeting System" AI can take the "Date Received" off the dozens of tests posted publicly and scraped into their database.

Then correlate those dates to a shipper in the US who sent samples to the address of the "known European lab".

Unless the shipper took steps to mask their identity, AND payment is made via some anonymized method, they're easily identified.

It doesn't matter if the dates the packs landed don't precisely match the "received date" on the test. A shipper in the US who's sent 20 packs to Jano, and the dates the packs arrived are close to the received date on 20 publicly posted test results can be easily identified. It's not going to be a coincidence.

May be a good idea going forward to keep the "received" date off test results entirely and limit to month and year for test results, to preserve anonymity.
Don't send anything to test bro, they are out to get you. That's why you don't even contribute anything.

That's why you don't even leave your house....

I'm sure they are trying to take down the fat pimply bald guy

CBP doesn't give a shit about the smaller guys .

Just keep fear mongering
 
Security in obscurity.

Most people don't seem to be aware international shipments from the US go through an "outbound customs" process, with data collected by CBP including shipper and destination.

In the federal court docs for a couple of busts of steroid labs/sellers, the feds mention records of packages being sent from the defendants to a lab in central Europe "known for testing anabolic steroids".

This wasn't how they got busted, but was used as corroborating evidence for search warrants.

But that's from several years ago, and the result of a manual search done after the fact by investigators who knew what they looking for.

Now you've got CBP's vast AI systems scraping data from tens of thousands public sources online, including social media.

These systems are optimized for recognizing patterns that can be used to identify individuals and cargo of concern. Agents can also "suggest" connections to "seed" searches,

So for instance. Let's say you have an AAS lab in the US who routinely posts Jano lab results on MESO. (and yes, thinksteroids content is definately is being scraped, it's quoted as a source on numerous GPTs).

CBPs "Automated Targeting System" AI can take the "Date Received" off the dozens of tests posted publicly and scraped into their database.

Then correlate those dates to a shipper in the US who sent samples to the address of the "known European lab".

Unless the shipper took steps to mask their identity, AND payment is made via some anonymized method, they're easily identified.

It doesn't matter if the dates the packs landed don't precisely match the "received date" on the test. A shipper in the US who's sent 20 packs to Jano, and the dates the packs arrived are close to the received date on 20 publicly posted test results can be easily identified. It's not going to be a coincidence.

May be a good idea going forward to keep the "received" date off test results entirely and limit to month and year for test results, to preserve anonymity.

You are 100% correct
 
Also, me:
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Unnecessary comment. The customer would decide anyway. You're in gas lighting mode today aren't you? Go and hit the gym, it helps with frustration.
how is that an unnecessary comment? I am not even trying to be a dick.

its confidentiality between the service provider and the customer.
 
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