Joejoebaggin's HRT Log

[plymouth city]

These should further boost your T joey No more whiny pop rock

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[joejoebaggins]

Let us not forget that the obese are walking refrigerators of estrogen and insulin resistence.

I almost shit myself when i read that Plymouth.

I've been doing a bunch of reading of old threads on AM

Manson is the bomb! err was the bomb. New stuff not so great.

My singer is obsessed with all the records you posted. Definite T boosters lol.

 

[plymouth city]

I almost shit myself when i read that Plymouth.

I've been doing a bunch of reading of old threads on AM

Manson is the bomb! err was the bomb. New stuff not so great.

My singer is obsessed with all the records you posted. Definite T boosters lol.

Ive got a ton of stuff on AM. Re-read my old stuff, its a catelog Too bad they are dicks and banned me. Ive noticed there site is already slowing down traffic wise . Ban the top poster, not to smart

Manson was the first concert I ever went to, back in the late 90's. Eye opening.

Im learning guitar right now, having small hands is a pain in the ass when hitting cords.

Good luck and as always feel free to ask any questions. Keep them on your log, not PM, this way others can benefit and we have a catelog of stuff to look at.

 

[plymouth city]

Mansons decline is pretty easy to see why - and it is common amoungst alot of hard rockers in the industry - it is all testosterone related. Rocks stars come out with a bang when they are young and testosterone filled. They are creative and have all the benefits that testosterone delivers. As they get shredded up by age/drug and alcohol use, there testosterone levels plummet, and their music and life suffers.

Take a look at pictures on Manson from the 90's, and compare them to now. He was stick thin, had a chiseled face, and just looked like someone who was pumping testosterone.

Now look at him now. He is skinny fat, has a rounder face, and generally seems alot less T like.

Testosterone is so amazingly fascinating. how in intertrwines and effects every aspect of human life, especially music.

I was watching that new show on Vh1 about the worlds smartest model, and i couldn't help but notice on how male models are essentially a walking, picture perfect display of how having naturally high T levels affects every aspect of someones life, including how they look. Take a look, its very interesting. I would imagine the BW on those guys would be impressive, to say the least - high TT, lower end E2, etc.

Do not compare male to female modeling, this is a totally different arena.

 

[joejoebaggins]

Mansons decline is pretty easy to see why - and it is common amoungst alot of hard rockers in the industry - it is all testosterone related. Rocks stars come out with a bang when they are young and testosterone filled. They are creative and have all the benefits that testosterone delivers. As they get shredded up by age/drug and alcohol use, there testosterone levels plummet, and their music and life suffers.

Take a look at pictures on Manson from the 90's, and compare them to now. He was stick thin, had a chiseled face, and just looked like someone who was pumping testosterone.

Now look at him now. He is skinny fat, has a rounder face, and generally seems alot less T like.

Testosterone is so amazingly fascinating. how in intertrwines and effects every aspect of human life, especially music.

I was watching that new show on Vh1 about the worlds smartest model, and i couldn't help but notice on how male models are essentially a walking, picture perfect display of how having naturally high T levels affects every aspect of someones life, including how they look. Take a look, its very interesting. I would imagine the BW on those guys would be impressive, to say the least - high TT, lower end E2, etc.

Do not compare male to female modeling, this is a totally different arena.

Hahah I've absolutely never thought about it in those terms. You're totally on to something.

Plymouth, are you going to restart your log on the meso boards? Also could you lay out the guidelines of your diet? I'm really interested.

 

[JanSz]

Hahah I've absolutely never thought about it in those terms. You're totally on to something.

Plymouth, are you going to restart your log on the meso boards? Also could you lay out the guidelines of your diet? I'm really interested.

These are my notes, may need revising.
Better when on new thread.
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https://anabolicminds.com/forum/male-anti-aging/63008-looking-start-hrt-2.html#post777201
plymouth city
https://anabolicminds.com/forum/male-anti-aging/63008-looking-start-hrt-2.html#post777201
;---http://www.thebetterhealthstore.com/
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BIOTEST--http://www.t-nation.com/category.jsp?categoryID=34&pageNo=1&s=navStore
ZMA-- $9.00 (Zinc, Magnesium, B6) 3 capsules a day
REZ-V _$34.99 (3 tabs a day) plymut says 1/week Resveratrol (Biotest)
Flameout--Biotest fish oil ----- $24.99 (4pills a day) plymout says 2 is enough
MICRINIZED GERMAN CREATINE $12.99 (5grams a day, one scoop)
Whey Protein (Biotest) (Grow! Premium Quality Whey) to be replaced by Protein Greens Whey Natural
CLA (Biotest) it is part of Flameout ???
E-Gems Elite 400 IU ;---http://www.carlsonlabs.com/product_detail.phtml?prodid=10008046&categid=0001
ACES A/C/E/Selenium ;---http://www.carlsonlabs.com/product_detail.phtml?prodid=00110
GREENS Plus Wild Berry Burst ;---http://greensplus.com/product_info.php/cPath/67_21_23/products_id/130.
PROTEIN GREENS+ Whey Natural ;---http://greensplus.com/product_info.php/cPath/67_21_83_77/products_id/202


My whey shakes look like this, and I drink one every day for breakfast.
1 scoop whey
ice and water
handfull walnutts
2 tablespoons olive oil
Creatine a couple days a week
Frozen fruit or Veg, usually strawberries or blueberries, sometimes blackberries or rasberries
Banana
Apple
Yogurt
1 teaspoon Greens Plus Wild Berry


https://anabolicminds.com/forum/male-anti-aging/65365-plymouth-citys-log.html#post807043
Right now I take plymouth city

PM
FLAMEOUT - 2 CAPS ED - t-nation.com
ZMA - 3 caps ED - t-nation.com
Carlsons Salmon Oil/GLA - 1 cap ED - carlsonlabs.com
Carlsons Salmon Oil - 1 cap ED - carlsonslabs.com

AM
Calcium D Glucarate - 1 cap ED - lef.com
DIM - 1 cap EOD - ultimatemedresearch.com
TMG - 1 cap EOD - lef.com
Carlsons ACES - 1 cap EOD - carlsonlabs.com
Resveratrol(REZV) 1 cap EOD - t-nation.com

 

[plymouth city]

These are my notes, may need revising.
Better when on new thread.
====================================




https://anabolicminds.com/forum/male-anti-aging/63008-looking-start-hrt-2.html#post777201
plymouth city
https://anabolicminds.com/forum/male-anti-aging/63008-looking-start-hrt-2.html#post777201
;---http://www.thebetterhealthstore.com/
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
BIOTEST--http://www.t-nation.com/category.jsp?categoryID=34&pageNo=1&s=navStore
ZMA-- $9.00 (Zinc, Magnesium, B6) 3 capsules a day
REZ-V _$34.99 (3 tabs a day) plymut says 1/week Resveratrol (Biotest)
Flameout--Biotest fish oil ----- $24.99 (4pills a day) plymout says 2 is enough
MICRINIZED GERMAN CREATINE $12.99 (5grams a day, one scoop)
Whey Protein (Biotest) (Grow! Premium Quality Whey) to be replaced by Protein Greens Whey Natural
CLA (Biotest) it is part of Flameout ???
E-Gems Elite 400 IU ;---http://www.carlsonlabs.com/product_detail.phtml?prodid=10008046&categid=0001
ACES A/C/E/Selenium ;---http://www.carlsonlabs.com/product_detail.phtml?prodid=00110
GREENS Plus Wild Berry Burst ;---http://greensplus.com/product_info.php/cPath/67_21_23/products_id/130.
PROTEIN GREENS+ Whey Natural ;---http://greensplus.com/product_info.php/cPath/67_21_83_77/products_id/202


My whey shakes look like this, and I drink one every day for breakfast.
1 scoop whey
ice and water
handfull walnutts
2 tablespoons olive oil
Creatine a couple days a week
Frozen fruit or Veg, usually strawberries or blueberries, sometimes blackberries or rasberries
Banana
Apple
Yogurt
1 teaspoon Greens Plus Wild Berry


https://anabolicminds.com/forum/male-anti-aging/65365-plymouth-citys-log.html#post807043
Right now I take plymouth city

PM
FLAMEOUT - 2 CAPS ED - t-nation.com
ZMA - 3 caps ED - t-nation.com
Carlsons Salmon Oil/GLA - 1 cap ED - carlsonlabs.com
Carlsons Salmon Oil - 1 cap ED - carlsonslabs.com

AM
Calcium D Glucarate - 1 cap ED - lef.com
DIM - 1 cap EOD - ultimatemedresearch.com
TMG - 1 cap EOD - lef.com
Carlsons ACES - 1 cap EOD - carlsonlabs.com
Resveratrol(REZV) 1 cap EOD - t-nation.com

Thanks JansZ!

A few changes

I do not use olive oil anymore. I have recently got alot of information that olive oil is now saturated and cheaply made using a combination of soy + olive oil. This is whats coming out of Italy. I am ashamed that my countrymen would do this.

I also have to take Uroxatrol, 10mg once per nighttime. I did not like it at first. This was due to the fact I was on nicotine replacement(patch). Now that I am off nicotine for good, I seem to have no issues with it. For whatever reason, they just didn't go together. I feel fine now and have no issues taking it.

I still do the protein shake. I now use Biotest Micellular protein, it is called metabolic drive complete.

I use

am

Carlsons Cod Liver oil 1 tablespoon
Carlsons Vit E Gems 1 cap
Biotest ZMA 1 cap
Chelated Copper 1/2 cap
Lef Multi 1 cap
Resveratrol Country Life 1 cap
Dermacrine Sustain, low dose, 10 sprays

Pm
Uroxatrol, 10mg, taken at night

 

[JanSz]

Thanks JansZ!

A few changes

I do not use olive oil anymore. I have recently got alot of information that olive oil is now saturated and cheaply made using a combination of soy + olive oil. This is whats coming out of Italy. I am ashamed that my countrymen would do this.

I also have to take Uroxatrol, 10mg once per nighttime. I did not like it at first. This was due to the fact I was on nicotine replacement(patch). Now that I am off nicotine for good, I seem to have no issues with it. For whatever reason, they just didn't go together. I feel fine now and have no issues taking it.

I still do the protein shake. I now use Biotest Micellular protein, it is called metabolic drive complete.

I use

am

Carlsons Cod Liver oil 1 tablespoon
Carlsons Vit E Gems 1 cap
Biotest ZMA 1 cap
Chelated Copper 1/2 cap
Lef Multi 1 cap
Resveratrol Country Life 1 cap
Dermacrine Sustain, low dose, 10 sprays

Pm
Uroxatrol, 10mg, taken at night

UROXATRAL - Indicated to Treat the Signs and Symptoms of BPH

How did you managed to get BPH at age 20 (something)?
Any how, you need to know of new lattest and greatest treatment with Green light laser.
Supposedly it is no newer mind surgery, one goes home the same day.
On my next visit to my my doc at Sloan Kettering I am going to ask for it.
Most likely I will have it done before end of the year.

What convinced me to go is a story on the web site of a doc in Delaware who does this surgery.
#1 easy same day surgery, no blood.
#2 the muscle existing right on the bladder surface is left intact, no retrograte ejaculation.
#3 does not jeopardise a nerve responsible for erection
#4 if one waits for this surgery for too long, bladder's flexibility is getting damaged

I am worrying about #4, when I hold too long with peeing then I have a hard time to empty completely right away.

Read the whole story here:
Greenlight laser PVP Newark DE

My doc will be this one (hopefully he will take out his turban for the time of surgery) :
Sloan-Kettering - Physician Biography: Jaspreet S. Sandhu

google on
green light photovaporization Jaspreet Sandhu
tons of articles.

IIRC HAN also have prostate problems.
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You may be right about olive oil.
Italy is not alone, oil from anywhere may be fudged, no guarantee.
I heard story about it few years back.
Except for California, the whole USA do not have a proper law to enforce demand about what is inside the bottle that have Olive Oil on the label.

Supposedly the only solution is to buy olive oil made in California.
Yes it is expensive.

 

[plymouth city]

UROXATRAL - Indicated to Treat the Signs and Symptoms of BPH

How did you managed to get BPH at age 20 (something)?
Any how, you need to know of new lattest and greatest treatment with Green light laser.
Supposedly it is no newer mind surgery, one goes home the same day.
On my next visit to my my doc at Sloan Kettering I am going to ask for it.
Most likely I will have it done before end of the year.

What convinced me to go is a story on the web site of a doc in Delaware who does this surgery.
#1 easy same day surgery, no blood.
#2 the muscle existing right on the bladder surface is left intact, no retrograte ejaculation.
#3 does not jeopardise a nerve responsible for erection
#4 if one waits for this surgery for too long, bladder's flexibility is getting damaged

I am worrying about #4, when I hold too long with peeing then I have a hard time to empty completely right away.

Read the whole story here:
Greenlight laser PVP Newark DE

My doc will be this one (hopefully he will take out his turban for the time of surgery) :
Sloan-Kettering - Physician Biography: Jaspreet S. Sandhu

google on
green light photovaporization Jaspreet Sandhu
tons of articles.

IIRC HAN also have prostate problems.
=======================================================================
You may be right about olive oil.
Italy is not alone, oil from anywhere may be fudged, no guarantee.
I heard story about it few years back.
Except for California, the whole USA do not have a proper law to enforce demand about what is inside the bottle that have Olive Oil on the label.

Supposedly the only solution is to buy olive oil made in California.
Yes it is expensive.

Yep, olive oil is crap everywhere around the world, except here. I think in the long run the problems we are having with overseas products is a good thing, it will help shift away from imports and outsourcing.

I do not have BPH. My PSA was .3 and my prostate was tiny and firm(at least thats what the Dr said)

I have an issue with the bladder neck muscles - Mine are contracted and very tight. Uroxatrol is supposed to fix this. I have been on it for about 3 weeks now, so I haven't noticed anything. But this time around on it(remember I was on it before and did not like it) I am having zero issues taking it.

Have you tried uroxatrol yet? Supposedly it is the latest and greatest drug for BPH as well.

I am lucky, the very cute nurse at my urologist must like me, I sweet talked her into giving me uroxatrol for free. This normally costs 100 bucks for a 30 day supply. Now I just stop by and raid the office closet for all the free uroxatrol I want.

 

[JanSz]

Yep, olive oil is crap everywhere around the world, except here. I think in the long run the problems we are having with overseas products is a good thing, it will help shift away from imports and outsourcing.

I do not have BPH. My PSA was .3 and my prostate was tiny and firm(at least thats what the Dr said)

I have an issue with the bladder neck muscles - Mine are contracted and very tight. Uroxatrol is supposed to fix this. I have been on it for about 3 weeks now, so I haven't noticed anything. But this time around on it(remember I was on it before and did not like it) I am having zero issues taking it.

Have you tried uroxatrol yet? Supposedly it is the latest and greatest drug for BPH as well.

I am lucky, the very cute nurse at my urologist must like me, I sweet talked her into giving me uroxatrol for free. This normally costs 100 bucks for a 30 day supply. Now I just stop by and raid the office closet for all the free uroxatrol I want.

If she is so cute, talk the nurse to give you prostate massage.

 

[joejoebaggins]

Today I have done perhaps the smartest thing I could possibly do in my treatment protocol...

Made an appointment with Dr. John.

I have my appointment at the beginning of next month and am excited beyond belief. I have been busy putting together all my questions and making a detailed time line of treatments and the start of symptoms.

Hopefully this will set me on a path that will lead me to the health of a normal 22 year old male.

Can't wait to tell you guys about it.

 

[joejoebaggins]

On a side note,

Plymouth, i know this is your area of expertise, but my skin has recently for whatever reason become pretty oily. Could taking 5g of B-5 along with 4-6g Carlson's cod liver oil (gels) skew a hormonal assay in any way?

I have recently stopped taking pretty much everything (except ZMA, Armour, Selenium, 4g cod liver oil) preparing myself for a good base reading when i see Dr. John.

I've been about a week and a half with out a-dex... and i might be crazy but my nipples have gotten a lot puffier and i can feel them against my shirt...

Thank goodness I'm going to Dr. John because I'm freaking out...

 

[plymouth city]

On a side note,

Plymouth, i know this is your area of expertise, but my skin has recently for whatever reason become pretty oily. Could taking 5g of B-5 along with 4-6g Carlson's cod liver oil (gels) skew a hormonal assay in any way?

I have recently stopped taking pretty much everything (except ZMA, Armour, Selenium, 4g cod liver oil) preparing myself for a good base reading when i see Dr. John.

I've been about a week and a half with out a-dex... and i might be crazy but my nipples have gotten a lot puffier and i can feel them against my shirt...

Thank goodness I'm going to Dr. John because I'm freaking out...

Great move, Dr John is the man, he will fix you.

Great move as well going off the HRT, just tough it out. I think a good Dr is the best step in the right direction. How long have you been off?

For oily skin, go here - acne.org. You don't have to follow the whole program to a tee, but a good start would be to use the moisturizing bar they talk about and wash areas every day.

Run that with 5g of B-5, and 1 tablespoon Carlsons Cod Liver Oil.

On your way up(or back from) Dr John, stop by Plymouth, its on the way, about 45 min from his office, I will buy you a beer and we can talk music, health and HRT.

 

[plymouth city]

If she is so cute, talk the nurse to give you prostate massage.

LOL JansZ, you are too much [)]

 

[joejoebaggins]

Great move, Dr John is the man, he will fix you.

Great move as well going off the HRT, just tough it out. I think a good Dr is the best step in the right direction. How long have you been off?

For oily skin, go here - acne.org. You don't have to follow the whole program to a tee, but a good start would be to use the moisturizing bar they talk about and wash areas every day.

Run that with 5g of B-5, and 1 tablespoon Carlsons Cod Liver Oil.

On your way up(or back from) Dr John, stop by Plymouth, its on the way, about 45 min from his office, I will buy you a beer and we can talk music, health and HRT.

I've been off all the supps/hrt for about a week and half. I've lost morning wood (maybe the adex?) but i feel pretty okay. The only side effect was some mild acne and tender nipples which as i said before is pretty scary. I upped my Zinc to 50mg twice a day along with 2g of copper to go along with each dose.

I'm trying to figure out how many gel caps of Carlson's Cod Liver Oil to take. Since the DHA/EPA ratio is higher in the gels than it is in the liquid. I would get the liquid but i have A TON of the gels.

Plymouth, if i was driving I would be more than delighted to buy you a drink for teaching me and holding my hand on this journey, but alas I am flying and I have it all scheduled so I head back to the airport immediately after my appointment. I have no doubt that we'll run across each other while I'm on tour.

I really can't wait to see the good doctor. I haven't been this optimistic in a long time.

 

[plymouth city]

I've been off all the supps/hrt for about a week and half. I've lost morning wood (maybe the adex?) but i feel pretty okay. The only side effect was some mild acne and tender nipples which as i said before is pretty scary. I upped my Zinc to 50mg twice a day along with 2g of copper to go along with each dose.

I'm trying to figure out how many gel caps of Carlson's Cod Liver Oil to take. Since the DHA/EPA ratio is higher in the gels than it is in the liquid. I would get the liquid but i have A TON of the gels.

Plymouth, if i was driving I would be more than delighted to buy you a drink for teaching me and holding my hand on this journey, but alas I am flying and I have it all scheduled so I head back to the airport immediately after my appointment. I have no doubt that we'll run across each other while I'm on tour.

I really can't wait to see the good doctor. I haven't been this optimistic in a long time.

Ideally you want 3 G of DHA/EPA combined.

So figure out how much total DHA/EPA is in each capsule.

Example if one cap is 300EPA and 200DHA, thats 500 total. Then you would want to take 6 caps a day.

Lemme know when your coming threw to Detroit Rock City [)]

 

[joejoebaggins]

My Zinc from source naturals has calcium in it (37mg) is it worthless?

Also, can i take zinc/selenium/copper on an empty stomach? I'm paranoid about absorption.

 

[pmgamer18]

No take it with food it can't get killed in the stomach it's a mineral. Taking this on an empty stomach is hard on it.

 

[joejoebaggins]

No take it with food it can't get killed in the stomach it's a mineral. Taking this on an empty stomach is hard on it.

Thanks Phil

 

[plymouth city]

My Zinc from source naturals has calcium in it (37mg) is it worthless?

Also, can i take zinc/selenium/copper on an empty stomach? I'm paranoid about absorption.

Useless. Calcium inhibits zinc absorbtion.

I don't like taking copper on an empty stomach, it makes my stomach upset. However, if you don't have any issues, go right ahead.