Joint pain on eq/ new cycle issues

[Jreil5]

Just started a new cycle from Muscle Candy. Currently running 500mg test e, 400mg EQ, 300 NPP, and 100 mg anadrol a day too kickstart. Also running fin 1mg ed, arimidex .25mg eod, and telmisartan 40mg ed.
I have noticed that i am getting some joint pain around elbows and my muscles that i trained the day before are super sore when i wakeup the next day. The week before this i was on trt and had great workouts. It seems that i am getting weaker, and my joints are more fragile/ sensitive. I was recently sick but i felt better this past weekend. I am wondering why this cycle is causing me to be "weaker" and possibly weakening my joints? I might still have some sort of sickness, but it seems to have subsided. I dont know what is causing this. I also have super bad pip from the high concentration inj, and the sore muscles are in places i usually don't get sore. (back, traps, mid/lower back)

 

[kasperl]

could be a lot of things

get bloodwork

my guess would be crashed E2 from the EQ and Adex

 

[iris]

@PermaBlastingTren
@PaintDrinker
@Astartes

 

[Jreil5]

could be a lot of things

get bloodwork

my guess would be crashed E2 from the EQ and Adex

Thanks for the input. Will do. I tend to think this isnt e2 because i am having no other symptoms of crashed e2. Libido is fine, and still holding water weight. I am dropping the ai though.

 

[bigMoJo]

Maybe low on the list... do you think your strength level maybe increased too much where your joints need to catch up?

 

[PermaBlastingTren]

Never usualy get pain and I run my e2 into the dirt year round.

I think in my case the likely causing factor is getting too strong to quick and shit recovery due to shit sleep

 

[buzzingonaas]

Inflammation/“test flu”? I get this when starting hard and heavy on a cycle. Body freaks out after that first shot and I feel achey, run down, and in pain in my joints.

 

[iris]

Maybe low on the list... do you think your strength level maybe increased too much where your joints need to catch up?

But he only started this a week ago and before then he says he was fine.
Unless I read that wrong.
We don't know if he has changed the weights he is pushing and the time frame of that. Just that, since changing cycle, this has begun.

Thank you Mojo.
Sorry I did not include you in the people I tagged above.
But I took a look at the numbers of the stuff he is taking and I thought you know better than running that much.
So, Perma was first in line.
Lol.
Will stand corrected, though.
You tell me

 

[bigMoJo]

But he only started this a week ago and before then he says he was fine.
Unless I read that wrong.
We don't know if he has changed the weights he is pushing and the time frame of that. Just that, since changing cycle, this has begun.

Thank you Mojo.
Sorry I did not include you in the people I tagged above.
But I took a look at the numbers of the stuff he is taking and I thought you know better than running that much.
So, Perma was first in line.
Lol.
Will stand corrected, though.
You tell me

I don't mind the no-tag at all. I was just curious what may be a possible issue with OP. Of course, I also know other's with better knowledge will chime in. I just thought—if its a joint issue after increasing dosages dramatically (i.e.100mg adrol)—it's possible there's joint stress.
However, you're right... he mentioned one (1) week on the high dosages. It's likely because he was sick... wonder what he had/has... maybe COVID... sh** is still around... maybe he's a "no-vaccer? Or, like @buzzingonaas' post, "test flu."

Sh** get's weirder by the minute... "deca dick," "tren rage," "raisin nuts," now "test flu."

Maybe there's "Anadrol Anus" out there... you sh** your pants uncontrollably or something.

 

[Jreil5]

Thanks for the input. I am pretty sure im sick because last night i got chills and achy muscles/joints. I also have a fever that comes and goes. Test flu? Maybe. I just dont know why i would have achy joints and fever/chills from a simple test dose.

Inflammation/“test flu”? I get this when starting hard and heavy on a cycle. Body freaks out after that first shot and I feel achey, run down, and in pain in my joints.

 

[Ghoul]

Septic arthritis.

Filter that trash with a .22ml syringe filter into a sterile vial and see if things go better.

MRSA is the most common bacteria that causes it, and is all over the skin, so a sloppy UGL can easily contaminate vials with it.



" Injection drug use (IDU) is a risk factor for septic arthritis (SA) of native joints."

Septic Arthritis Among Users of Injection Drugs: Clinical Course and Microbial Characteristics - PubMed

Injection drug use (IDU) is a risk factor for septic arthritis (SA) of native joints. Amid the opioid crisis, IDU rates have increased. This study assessed differences in pre-operative characteristics, microbial characteristics, and postoperative outcomes of 177 cases of SA treated operatively...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

https://www.wosm.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/Septic-Arthritis-Among-Users-of-Injection-Drugs-clincal-course-and-microbial-characteristics.pdf

 

[iris]

For God's sake, where are the knuckle draggers when you need them?
@Ghoul what the hell is this?

This poor guy.
One day he is on trt like granpa, the day after is on a cycle like he is Chase Iron's cousin or something.

But it's septic arthritis and MRSA.
Baby Jesus.
Please someone say something before OP goes in a panic

 

[buzzingonaas]

Thanks for the input. I am pretty sure im sick because last night i got chills and achy muscles/joints. I also have a fever that comes and goes. Test flu? Maybe. I just dont know why i would have achy joints and fever/chills from a simple test dose.

I never get an actual fever from test flu. Get yourself checked by a doctor if you’re running a fever. Otherwise it’s likely test flu

 

[iris]

Op, have you taken a flipping aspirin and seen your doctor?
Are you feeling any better?

Thanks @buzzingonaas

 

[Jreil5]

I don't mind the no-tag at all. I was just curious what may be a possible issue with OP. Of course, I also know other's with better knowledge will chime in. I just thought—if its a joint issue after increasing dosages dramatically (i.e.100mg adrol)—it's possible there's joint stress.
However, you're right... he mentioned one (1) week on the high dosages. It's likely because he was sick... wonder what he had/has... maybe COVID... sh** is still around... maybe he's a "no-vaccer? Or, like @buzzingonaas' post, "test flu."

Sh** get's weirder by the minute... "deca dick," "tren rage," "raisin nuts," now "test flu."

Maybe there's "Anadrol Anus" out there... you sh** your pants uncontrollably or something.

I think this is probably more a common cold or covid. We are in agreeance with that. The sickness and joint pain was mild earlier this week but got more pronounced after working out super hard.

Op, have you taken a flipping aspirin and seen your doctor?
Are you feeling any better?

Thanks @buzzingonaas

still sick with fever but its low grade. You guys are freaking me out with this contaminated vial stuff... I think i am just sick lol. Also my sourcing for this was muscle candy.

 

[iris]

I think this is probably more a common cold or covid.
. You guys are freaking me out with this contaminated vial stuff... I think i am just sick lol. Also my sourcing for this was muscle candy.

Good to know you are still with us.
It's not "you guys" freaking you out, it's 1 guy and you know exactly who he is, lol.
If you have covid, get out there and party, spread it around with gusto and make America infected again.

Keep us posted.
If it turns out to be MRSA like Ghoul says, don't tell us or he will crucify us all.
Lol.
Just kidding.
Give us your news, when you can.

 

[Ghoul]

This is the only environment where, after suggesting a condition the OP is describing all the symptoms of, which developed shortly after injecting substantial amounts from a vial made by some one man lab in a trailer park, that can be caused by any of hundreds of types of bacteria, viruses, or fungi given "vascular access", the reaction is "It can't possibly be that! We're not like those other injectable drug users! This drug dealer only makes the purest stuff because he cares about our health! So pure we never have to test it for contamination!".

I mean, just because this is the lab that had mixed compounds in a vial because they "didn't flush the lines", and let a little guac into some vials it shouldn't have been, when it comes to sanitation, they'd never have an issue there, its too important a detail to pay attention to. They're gonna be Pfizer in that department.

Maybe it is something else.

In fact, make sure if the doc suggests "Septic arthritis", which btw is usually mild and clears on its own, unless the patient was already sick with something weakening his immune system, tell him he's fucking nuts, can't be, the gear was from "Muscle Candy" labs after all!

That way he won't prescribe the antibiotics that would prevent the possibility of joint damage.

PS: Aren't these sorts of possibilities the reason home brewers say they brew for? Or are they nuts? I'm so confused...

 

[iris]

This is the only environment where, after suggesting a condition the OP is describing all the symptoms of, which developed shortly after injecting substantial amounts from a vial made by some one man lab in a trailer park, that can be caused by any of hundreds of types of bacteria, viruses, or fungi given "vascular access", the reaction is "It can't possibly be that! We're not like those other injectable drug users! This drug dealer only makes the purest stuff because he cares about our health! So pure we never have to test it for contamination!".

I mean, just because this is the lab that had mixed compounds in a vial because they "didn't flush the lines", and let a little guac into some vials it shouldn't have been, when it comes to sanitation, they'd never have an issue there, its too important a detail to pay attention to. They're gonna be Pfizer in that department.

Maybe it is something else.

In fact, make sure if the doc suggests "Septic arthritis", which btw is usually mild and clears on its own, unless the patient was already sick with something weakening his immune system, tell him he's fucking nuts, can't be, the gear was from "Muscle Candy" labs after all!

That way he won't prescribe the antibiotics that would prevent the possibility of joint damage.

PS: Aren't these sorts of possibilities the reason home brewers say they brew for? Or are they nuts? I'm so confused...

Listen, chill.
Everything can be.
It can be covid, it can be flipping anything at this point.
But if it was poo bacteria or whatever on this stuff, he wouldn't/won't be the only person to say this.
But you don't agree with this and that's fine.
If it turns out to be what you say, awesome (or not), he will tell us.

I did not want op to get freaked out; i wanted him to get back in touch, as he had not replied to you.
So, I gave it another nudge and asked if he had been to the doctor.

Chiiiiiil.

OP, please let us know how this goes, don't forget.

 

[bigMoJo]

Listen, chill.
Everything can be.
It can be covid, it can be flipping anything at this point.

So, "anadrol anus" is still on the table?

 

[Jreil5]

Listen, chill.
Everything can be.
It can be covid, it can be flipping anything at this point.
But if it was poo bacteria or whatever on this stuff, he wouldn't/won't be the only person to say this.
But you don't agree with this and that's fine.
If it turns out to be what you say, awesome (or not), he will tell us.

I did not want op to get freaked out; i wanted him to get back in touch, as he had not replied to you.
So, I gave it another nudge and asked if he had been to the doctor.

Chiiiiiil.

OP, please let us know how this goes, don't forget.

Ruled out crashed e2. Now its down too septic arthritis, or some sort of other illness/flu. I have been doing research on septic arthritis and it seems that it is common to have redness and swelling in only one body part after catching this, which i dont have. (no redness or swelling, also joints ache in mutliple places) I dose wed/sat so its either keep using this brand which has the possibility of being contaminated, or im just sick...lol

You guys are gonna hate me but im going to dose tomorrow and just ride out what i have. Ill post if/once symptoms stop.