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Newname

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Hey guys, been kind of lurking here on the forum for a while and finally decided to join. Wanted to do some reading about stuff before I tried to participate in any conversation. :)

Age: 30, 6'2", 170lbs

I just placed an order with Scrioxx and I was wondering if you guys were happy with them? It seemed that there was pretty decent reviews from some of you, but wanted to check in. Ordered a cycle of Oral Trinabol with Nolvadex. Kinda nervous, but excited.
 
Was also wondering your thoughts on Tbol followed by Nolvadex. Also ordered a Milk Thistle supplement for liver.
 
Newname said:
Was also wondering your thoughts on Tbol followed by Nolvadex. Also ordered a Milk Thistle supplement for liver.
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Nolvadex for what?

Nolvadex is for gear, that aromatizes...

It blocks estrogen receptors, and T-Bol
doesn't increase estrogen.. It won't
cause increase in estrogen.

I swear, you guys, with your PCT.. :)
 
well if he's running oral only for more than 4 weeks he might need something to start his non functional nuts.. silly oral only crap. always use test with orals
 
misterb said:
well if he's running oral only for more than 4 weeks he might need something to start his non functional nuts.. silly oral only crap. always use test with orals
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and how is an Anti-Estrogen going to
help his HPTA recover, when there
will be no estrogen to Anti :D.. To block?

So, running Test with the oral, will
help him recover faster?
 
MANWHORE said:
and how is an Anti-Estrogen going to
help his HPTA recover, when there
will be no estrogen to Anti :D.. To block?

So, running Test with the oral, will
help him recover faster?
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Nolvadex is a SERM drug, it does have an AI property but not in the same manner as a real AI like Aromasin or Aromadex, its more commonly used in PCT or for gyno reversal
Basically a SERM competes with estrogen for the estrogen receptor and wins. This means it will attach itself to the estrogen receptor before estrogen has a chance to. Estrogen will still be circulating in your blood but it will not be able to attach itself to the estrogen receptor's.
This action tricks the body into thinking that there is no estrogen. Our body decides that it needs to make more. The only way we can make more estrogen is by producing more testosterone to convert to estrogen. This is how a SERM stimulates LH and FSH. LH and FSH are hormones in our body that regulate testosterone production. The higher the amount of these hormones per blood volume simply means the signal is more abundant. This will attempt to speed up the process of testosterone production.
 
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misterb said:
Nolvadex is a SERM drug, it does have an AI property but not in the same manner as a real AI like Aromasin or Aromadex, its more commonly used in PTC or for gyno reversal
Basically a SERM competes with estrogen for the estrogen receptor and wins. This means it will attach itself to the estrogen receptor before estrogen has a chance to. Estrogen will still be circulating in your blood but it will not be able to attach itself to the estrogen receptor's.
This action tricks the body into thinking that there is no estrogen. Our body decides that it needs to make more. The only way we can make more estrogen is by producing more testosterone to convert to estrogen. This is how a SERM stimulates LH and FSH. LH and FSH are hormones in our body that regulate testosterone production. The higher the amount of these hormones per blood volume simply means the signal is more abundant. This will attempt to speed up the process of testosterone production.
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O boy, here we go..

1. Nolvadex does not have AI properties, cause it
is an Anti-Estrogen not an Anti-Aromatase..

2. It doesn't block the estrogen receptor, before
Estrogen has a chance to get there, because it
ITSELF is an ESTROGEN... You were close though...

3. I have a question: If the body wants estrogen
and can only make it by increasing testosterone, then
wouldn't an AI work better for PCT, since it is not actually
an Estrogen like Nolvadex and Clomid are, but actually lower
estrogen within the body, instead of just blocking the receptors
from the stronger estrogens???
 
What the hell does this all have to
do with needing Nolva after a Non-Aromatizing cycle?

Is Nolvadex going to make the body think
there is no estrogen there, when in fact,
THERE IS NO ESTROGEN THERE? [:o)]
 
MANWHORE said:
O boy, here we go..

1. Nolvadex does not have AI properties, cause it
is an Anti-Estrogen not an Anti-Aromatase..

2. It doesn't block the estrogen receptor, before
Estrogen has a chance to get there, because it
ITSELF is an ESTROGEN... You were close though...

3. I have a question: If the body wants estrogen
and can only make it by increasing testosterone, then
wouldn't an AI work better for PCT, since it is not actually
an Estrogen like Nolvadex and Clomid are, but actually lower
estrogen within the body, instead of just blocking the receptors
from the stronger estrogens???
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An anti estrogen would kill estrogen, like aromasin does, SERM drugs stop the binding so you dont grow breast , you still suffer the effects of high estrogen like bloat and high blood pressure, you simple will not have tits along with those
and to the other point the body needs to kick start the test production after cycle, we do that by tricking it into belief it need to make test, how do we make test, one way is binding up the E receptors, helping in pct.
when talking about Anti E drugs really there are only three Aromasin, Aromadex and lertozole
my real point to the OP was dont crash your test levels for a little strength and water weigh gain from orals, if your going to dabble in AAS be ready to pin yourself
but im hear to learn, just an old guy on trt
 
Adex and those others are not Anti-Es,
they are Anti-As...

Nolvadex is NOT NOT NOT needed after
a T-Bol T-Bol T-Bol cycle...

Nolvadex also doesn't KILL estrogen.. It likes estrogen
cause it FUCKIN is an estrogen...

I am a person and I hate people, but estrogens
don't work like we do...
Estrogens like each other... We don't .. Done Done Done ;)
 
MANWHORE said:
OK, but what will Clomid do, for his HPTA?
How will it help him recover?
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Clomid will Increases production of gonadotropins by inhibiting negative feedback on the hypothalamus. Clomiphene also has estrogenic and anti-estrogenic effects in the body. It also appears to stimulate the release of gonadotropins, follicle-stimulating hormone (FSH), and leuteinizing hormone (LH).

apologies if I previously used terms the young readers would understand, i'll be more precise in the future, just trying to keep some young person from hurting themselves like i did when i was young and reckless. not argue with people on the internet :tiphat i appreciate you wishing to validate a persons knowledge before trusting their comments
 
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