Just saw The Last Samurai...

[Joker]

Just wathced The Last Samurai and I have to say it was better than I thought. There is something to be said for people who are fighting for soemthing real, like their way of life rather than some bullshit idealistic principle or the insidious ulterior motives of a power-hungry/money-hungry regime. Very moving, to say the least....or maybe it was the clomid Anyway, well worth watching and the best flick I've seen in quite a while!

Joker

 

[Neodavid]

Last Samurai is one of the greatest epics of all time.

Any true man will weep. The warrior within will come out.

Honor, courage, integrity, and brotherhood...

Just wathced The Last Samurai and I have to say it was better than I thought. There is something to be said for people who are fighting for soemthing real, like their way of life rather than some bullshit idealistic principle or the insidious ulterior motives of a power-hungry/money-hungry regime. Very moving, to say the least....or maybe it was the clomid Anyway, well worth watching and the best flick I've seen in quite a while!

Joker

 

[Ronin_]

One of the best films Ive seen, and I wasn't on clomid but was close to tears in the cinema

 

[HHH]

Really? Damn,,I've been pasing it up ever week.
Guess I'll get it then.

HHH

 

[Patuba]

I think the movie would of been much better if they didn't have Tom Cruise as the main character plus I thought the ending was shit.

It's a decent movie but I'll never watch it again.

 

[Joker]

I think the movie would of been much better if they didn't have Tom Cruise as the main character plus I thought the ending was shit.

It's a decent movie but I'll never watch it again.

I thought exactly the same thing about Tom Cruise. Not that I dislike the guy; on the contrary--I think he's a great actor. Just a bad cast for that role. But I disagree that the ending was shit. The ending was the moving part. Not particularly action packed, but definitely very powerful in it's lack thereof. But could you imagine the ending if the Samurai would have gotten hold of some of those Winchester repeaters?

 

[Meat Train]

I think the saddest realization for me in the movie was the fact that warriors form the past actually had to be "talented" and "well-trained"-- combat was with handheld weapons or hand to hand. Great muscular bodies were great assets. Now, any skinny idiot with a gun can kill someone, from bodybuilder to another idiot.

It basically proves how weak, lazy, and cowardly the human race has become. The gun has ruined everything. There will never be any hand to hand combat in the future in any war-- no emotions passed from fist to face-- guns carry no feelings.

 

[VDC]

I enjoyed it more than I thought I would,,,It showed me all the things I've studied about Samurai and a little about Ninja,,,The personal discipline,,,The adherence to Giri(Honor debts),,,The acting as a unit,,,When they defeated all of the Ninja did you notice that all of the Samurai gave a victory shout at the same exact time the last one went down,,,True unity,,,Watching Tom's character learn and adapt was cool...His growing relationship with the family of the man he killed was cool,,,They did show Tom do what would be almost impossible,,,To take on 6 Samurai warriors armed with Dai Katana while he was bare handed to start with,,,He would have to be a Zen master with the blade,,,It was staged well,,,Those Zen archers were neat, one shot every time, right on target,,,and that is not fictional,,,VDC

 

[Salvia]

it reminded me too much of Dances with Wolves......

 

[Adogg4]

thought it was a great movie too, I liked the part where cruise observes how the samurai devote all their attentions to achieving perfection in whatever task they are embarking upon

 

[Joker]

it reminded me too much of Dances with Wolves......

I was thinking the same thing! And it should remind you of that movie. It has the same core plot--people fighting for their way of life under harsh repression and unbeatable odds. Just a different people in a different part of the world. Same premise, though. Even the causes are ultimately the same: expansion, industrialization, and MONEY. For the love of money is the root of all evil.

....thought it was a great movie too, I liked the part where cruise observes how the samurai devote all their attentions to achieving perfection in whatever task they are embarking upon....

Yep. That's why I said I can only imagine if they had gotten hold of those Winchester rifles. If they applied the same discipline to their marksmanship, look out! But then again, it didn't help the native American Indians much....

Joker

 

[DonkeyKong]

Why would you run towards cannons and big gattlin gones with nothing but swords when you know your going to die.You know if
Whts his name(leader of samuri)wasnt retarded he would have cut the emporers head off because it was the emporers fault all this happened.

 

[Neodavid]

Honor, courage, character, integrity, and LOYALTY. A belief in something bigger than yourself.

But your right, if a man thinks himself that important, and he is the center of the universe, not believing in an afterlife, then he would be a fool to act as he did.

Fortunately he was no fool.

He exemplified what was the greatest in man.

You missed the whole point of the movie, no offense meant.

But the idea was this loyal Samurai was completely loyal to his emporer, having raised him as a son. He knew the way to change things was to demonstrate his cause, his belief, by dying for it.

He went out to die, and Cruise came back with this message of his death, and THAT was what the movie was all about. That loyal death changed a country.

Why would you run towards cannons and big gattlin gones with nothing but swords when you know your going to die.You know if
Whts his name(leader of samuri)wasnt retarded he would have cut the emporers head off because it was the emporers fault all this happened.

 

[VDC]

Actually it didn't change anything,,,It did earn the man a place in history,,,Yes that last battle actually happened as a result of that revolution,,,Also The Japanese have a tradition about men dying honourably in a lost cause,,,Many of their heroes are such,,,But their country was determined to become modernized to compete with the Western world,,,Obviously they abandoned their isolationist stand,,,Otherwise Japan would not have partaken in WW1 and WW2,,,VDC

 

[Neodavid]

Righto, old boy, I should have explained myself better. I was speaking of the movie, not history.

However, I believe that because of this, the country was able to hold onto the better part of itself and the Samurai spirit. Isolationism is entirely impractical, but how one goes about modernizing(?) is important, not to lose the identity and culture you had.

Are you a history buff, japanese culture buff, war buff, what... not too many people would know this stuff I don't imagine.

Actually it didn't change anything,,,It did earn the man a place in history,,,Yes that last battle actually happened as a result of that revolution,,,Also The Japanese have a tradition about men dying honourably in a lost cause,,,Many of their heroes are such,,,But their country was determined to become modernized to compete with the Western world,,,Obviously they abandoned their isolationist stand,,,Otherwise Japan would not have partaken in WW1 and WW2,,,VDC

 

[soulpower]

Last Samurai Sucked

it was japanese style dances with wolves. ken watanabe was excellent, should have got an oscar. tom cruise blew goat balls. and hearing him murder the japanese language was like hearing fingernails on a chalkboard.

i will say this. the story was based on real fact (the satsuma rebellion) but they twisted it and made it dances with samurai.

towards the end i think tom and the others get shot about 37 times but are still conscious enough to have watanabe commit seppuku. gimme a break!

take out tom and it might have been passable. 'nuff said.

 

[VDC]

Well they wanted to make big bucks,,,sooo here comes Tommy,,,VDC

 

[MJM]

In my oppinion I didn't like the movie at all.I would really like my 7 dollars back to spend towards something else. Well, I enjoyed reading all of your post about The Last Samurai.Talk to you boys later.