Just started first cycle after doing research, thoughts?

[Juicedhead]

You know that testosterone by itself causes hairloss? You will start balding again regardless of using dutasteride or finasteride if your free testosterone is high enough.

This is not true. Fina blocks t from converting to dht. He wont lose hair on fina. And if hes on 1mg a day it crushes dht at that dose so he could run a gram of test and he dht would still be low probabaly.

 

[Juicedhead]

About the cycle its looks good! 400mg of test is a good starting point. I wouldnt start the duta you wont need it on fina, and aromasin could be used eod day 12.5 mg to start if you feel you need it obvioulsy blood testing to confirm if you need it would be prefered. Enjoy.

 

[Juicedhead]

Yeah I'm not trying to be a prick but....

Like balding and steroids are kinda guaranteed. Look at an endocrinology book. Sweat glands (sebum), genitals, prostate and hair are major targets for androgen expression.

You have a good physique already. No guarantees you will look better on gear.

Will you be happier bald and jacked or with a head full of hair and lean?

Just something to think about. I think dutasteride is more benign than Finasteride due to the size of the molecule.

But that being said you need DHT for penis functionality and neurosteroids (produced by 3aHSD).

Not true either. Ive been blasting gear for years with a full head of thick hair. Ive used fina on and off but I also take, biotin and collagen. Hair loss comes down to genetics so you might lose but if your only on test and running fina you wont lose any. Also would not recommend duta over fina duta blocks about 90% dht where fina blocks about 70% and you need some dht to keep your dick running well so just stick with fina.

 

[Elektrobot]

This is not true. Fina blocks t from converting to dht. He wont lose hair on fina. And if hes on 1mg a day it crushes dht at that dose so he could run a gram of test and he dht would still be low probabaly.

There is nothing that blocks androgens from binding with the androgen receptors in hair follicles

DHT is only part of the system

Higher androgen load = higher androgen receptor saturation.... including the ones in hair follicles. Some people's hair is more sensitive to it than others. That is just plain ole genetics.

the supposed benefit of topical RU 5882177554 whatever is that it prevents androgens from binding with the receptors in hair follicles.... but it's an experimental compound with no real trials or studies.

 

[Juicedhead]

There is nothing that blocks androgens from binding with the androgen receptors in hair follicles

DHT is only part of the system

Higher androgen load = higher androgen receptor saturation.... including the ones in hair follicles. Some people's hair is more sensitive to it than others. That is just plain ole genetics.

the supposed benefit of topical RU 5882177554 whatever is that it prevents androgens from binding with the receptors in hair follicles.... but it's an experimental compound with no real trials or studies.

Your missing what fina does. its armidex for dht. So the dht is never in the system cuz it blocks t from convering. Just like adex blocks t from converting to e2 so its never in the system.

Edit: ok i see what youre saying but T doesnt cause hairloss its dht.

 

[adrenalytic]

Like balding and steroids are kinda guaranteed. Look at an endocrinology book.

Not that I question your research abilities, banana, I know you are a wealth of knowledge but I gotta push back on this one.

I've run all kinds of androgens this past year and have yet to lose a single hair on my head. I actually have more hair than when I started. Sure it's on my back and shoulders but that's besides the point.

Funny thing is I have a younger brother (same parents) and he's been balding for years with no gear usage. It really does seem to be highly individual.

Edit: and no I have never used anything that prevent hair loss

 

[bananafeet]

Not that I question your research abilities, banana, I know you are a wealth of knowledge but I gotta push back on this one.

I've run all kinds of androgens this past year and have yet to lose a single hair on my head. I actually have more hair than when I started. Sure it's on my back and shoulders but that's besides the point.

Funny thing is I have a younger brother (same parents) and he's been balding for years with no gear usage. It really does seem to be highly individual.

Edit: and no I have never used anything that prevent hair loss

Sorry I should have said it's guaranteed if you're predisposed to it. This guy's on finasteride so I assumed he had MPB. If he did/does any androgen will accelerate it. Doesn't matter if it's a attenuated androgen or Tren or testosterone.

Androgens accelerate mpb.

My entire body is androgen resistant (especially my muscles) lol

I have a bald brother also and a hairline that doesn't budge with steroid abuse.

 

[adrenalytic]

Sorry I should have said it's guaranteed if you're predisposed to it.

Ah gotcha. On that we can agree. Definitely an important qualifier.

 

[Juicedhead]

Ah gotcha. On that we can agree. Definitely an important qualifier.

yeah like look at jay cutler. dude had thick hair while blasting gear, same with a lot of other pros dallas mccarver had thick hair and we all know he was blasting gear. Genetics is the main factor 100%. The shitty thing is you really dont know until you start gear so its just rolling the dice and if you catch it early enough fina can slow it down but if you have MPB you will still lose.

 

[kegg408]

The only reason why DHT causes MPB is because it's binds to the AR very strongly. Like 2-5x testosterone.

You increase your testosterone levels and you will start balding again. I assume you're not taking a drug "just in case".

Look at my hair it has hardly budged blasting because I'm not susceptible. Other people go bald in the 20s.

If you want to avoid it as much as possible keep the total androgen load low and maintain a good level of E2 (to keep SHBG relatively healthy).

You need to lift heavy ass weights to gain muscle that lasts off cycle anyway.

I can't say whether X mg will make you bald or not. We are all different...

"Everybody wants to be a body builder but ain't nobody want to life heavybass weights"

- yeah buddy