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[janoshik]

What are those "false pretenses"? That's pretty bold statement from someone who wants to return to MESO after being banned.

I don't see it being a bold statement, as it's true in my opinion.

Threats were listed among the reasons I got banned for.

I do not recall ever threatening anybody here and I don't see myself doing that - I simply don't see the point in threats over the internet.

However, I admit one can overlook doing such a thing in heat of argument, so I actually asked another member, if he believes I had threatened anybody.

The answer was also no.


Among the other two reasons listed for my ban were trolling and something about family, which I do not recall now.

Please, an answer to the following would be greatly appreciated:

1. Was I not a contributing member, mostly keeping to myself and answering questions directly at me for well over a last year?

2. Did I not start trolling only after I was massively antagonized in response to the same?

3. Were the people antagonizing me not trolling as much as I was? Did they get banned?

4. Is the "family" stuff I talked different from statements relating my girlfriend and my family in the woodchipper? Did the people having such statements get banned?

5. Is it commonplace to ban people for their posts in the underground?

Thank you.

 

[ickyrica]

You have no idea. I certainly hope you're not suggesting I give everyone as many chances as @CdnGuy? He was given multiple chances. He was even banned for 6 months, begged to participate again, given yet another chance against my better judgment only to be banned again.

No sir. Not suggesting that. I just used those 2 members in a general example because they are known current names. I appologize about that.

I always wondered if a case could be made to be reinstated after a ban. I always figured in an extreme case (a WKM that has a history of being a good standing member) an exception could be made, but aside from cdnguy and now jano I've never seen it.

I'm am surprised you gave cdn that last chance though. He screwed the pooch on that one. Any time he says he is "living in someones head rent free" you know has done for.

 

[Millard]

I don't see it being a bold statement, as it's true in my opinion.

It's bold because it is a direct accusation. If those were 'false pretenses', what do you think were the true reasons for your ban?

 

[Millard]

I always wondered if a case could be made to be reinstated after a ban. I always figured in an extreme case (a WKM that has a history of being a good standing member) an exception could be made, but aside from cdnguy and now jano I've never seen it

I would say that half of bans are only temporary ranging from weeks to months. There more than a few current members who have been temporarily banned in the past. But the vast majority of temporary bans might as well be permanent as they never returned.

 

[Millard]

I'm am surprised you gave cdn that last chance though

That was a mistake.

 

[rpbb]

I don't see it being a bold statement, as it's true in my opinion.

Threats were listed among the reasons I got banned for.

I do not recall ever threatening anybody here and I don't see myself doing that - I simply don't see the point in threats over the internet.

However, I admit one can overlook doing such a thing in heat of argument, so I actually asked another member, if he believes I had threatened anybody.

The answer was also no.


Among the other two reasons listed for my ban were trolling and something about family, which I do not recall now.

Please, an answer to the following would be greatly appreciated:

1. Was I not a contributing member, mostly keeping to myself and answering questions directly at me for well over a last year?

2. Did I not start trolling only after I was massively antagonized in response to the same?

3. Were the people antagonizing me not trolling as much as I was? Did they get banned?

4. Is the "family" stuff I talked different from statements relating my girlfriend and my family in the woodchipper? Did the people having such statements get banned?

5. Is it commonplace to ban people for their posts in the underground?

Thank you.

Jano, its probably a good idea too forget about the past and look forward. Life is to short. And if people try to pick an argument with you, ignore them.

 

[janoshik]

It's bold because it is a direct accusation. If those were 'false pretenses', what do you think were the true reasons for your ban?

I checked the dictionary and apparently the false pretense is used only in cases on deliberate misinterpretation. My apologies about the misunderstanding, my mistake.

Of course there is no possible way that I could know whether it was deliberate or accidental so I can logically not have such a claim.

It is even possible that your definition of threats does not meet mine and others' or I have done something I am not aware of - although I consider both of these options very unlikely. I am not going to dig in that discussion to prove a point.

What I mean is that 'threats' as one of the reasons for banning me is considered absurd by me, as I do not recall doing that, another member who read it all does not recall that and apparently I have even explicitly stated that I have not done such a thing even in that very argument.

Regarding the other two listed reasons for the ban I believe I have given my stance in the form of the questions unanswered.

I believe I have made that clear now.

Jano, its probably a good idea too forget about the past and look forward. Life is to short. And if people try to pick an argument with you, ignore them.

Will do. Thank you and have a nice day.

 

[Millard]

I checked the dictionary and apparently the false pretense is used only in cases on deliberate misinterpretation. My apologies about the misunderstanding, my mistake.

Of course there is no possible way that I could know whether it was deliberate or accidental so I can logically not have such a claim.

It is even possible that your definition of threats does not meet mine and others' or I have done something I am not aware of - although I consider both of these options very unlikely. I am not going to dig in that discussion to prove a point.

What I mean is that 'threats' as one of the reasons for banning me is considered absurd by me, as I do not recall doing that, another member who read it all does not recall that and apparently I have even explicitly stated that I have not done such a thing even in that very argument.

Regarding the other two listed reasons for the ban I believe I have given my stance in the form of the questions unanswered.

I believe I have made that clear now.



Will do. Thank you and have a nice day.

There was no misinterpretation, deliberate, accidental or otherwise. You were banned for the reasons listed. Your refusal or inability to accept culpability is astounding.

Members are rarely banned on MESO. But I have very little tolerance for any who uses personal information about one's minor children, especially that which is private or otherwise not publicly known, in an attempt to intimidate another member. You not only threatened but actually carried through with this unacceptable behavior.

Again, your attempts to rationalize or justify this behavior by maintaining that you did nothing wrong is stunning.

I find this type of behavior far more offensive than the typical internet tough guy threats. That type of bullshit, while unacceptable, is inevitably inconsequential but the very act of bringing another member's minor children into the conversation in an attempt at intimidation and/or implied threat has implicit consequences.

I believe that I have made myself abundantly clear.

Now do you get it?

 

[janoshik]

There was no misinterpretation, deliberate, accidental or otherwise. You were banned for the reasons listed. Your refusal or inability to accept culpability is astounding.

Members are rarely banned on MESO. But I have very little tolerance for any who uses personal information about one's minor children, especially that which is private or otherwise not publicly known, in an attempt to intimidate another member. You not only threatened but actually carried through with this unacceptable behavior.

Again, your attempts to rationalize or justify this behavior by maintaining that you did nothing wrong is stunning.

I find this type of behavior far more offensive than the typical internet tough guy threats. That type of bullshit, while unacceptable, is inevitably inconsequential but the very act of bringing another member's minor children into the conversation in an attempt at intimidation and/or implied threat has implicit consequences.

I believe that I have made myself abundantly clear.

Now do you get it?

You are completely, utterly and provably wrong here.

I would almost say deliberately at some points.

I will heed the advice given and will not participate in the argument with you any further.

 

[Wisco]

Can someone here explain what Jano has done fraudulently? I am a member at another board and have no knowledge of what is being talked about. Now I am curious

 

[rpbb]

Can someone here explain what Jano has done fraudulently? I am a member at another board and have no knowledge of what is being talked about. Now I am curious

Just as soon let go of the past, if you want, use the search function

 

[Damian]

What is the problem? Kenwoo is shit. I used 500 mg of trenbolone enanthate... without sides. It is really underdosed. Shit

 

[MisterSuperGod]

No sir. Not suggesting that. I just used those 2 members in a general example because they are known current names. I appologize about that.

I always wondered if a case could be made to be reinstated after a ban. I always figured in an extreme case (a WKM that has a history of being a good standing member) an exception could be made, but aside from cdnguy and now jano I've never seen it.

I'm am surprised you gave cdn that last chance though. He screwed the pooch on that one. Any time he says he is "living in someones head rent free" you know has done for.

Unless i'm mistaken, JustFish and 2dumb2plumb both got second chances after a temp ban before getting the perma ban too.

 

[ickyrica]

Unless i'm mistaken, JustFish and 2dumb2plumb both got second chances after a temp ban before getting the perma ban too.

I knew there were more. Couldn't recall though lol

 

[Wisco]

Just as soon let go of the past, if you want, use the search function

Well in order to use the search function I would have to know the topic it pertains to. Its fine, Jano has done nothing but good things over at the other forum I am a member of and what he has done has no monetary gain for him.

 

[ickyrica]

Well in order to use the search function I would have to know the topic it pertains to. Its fine, Jano has done nothing but good things over at the other forum I am a member of and what he has done has no monetary gain for him.

The topic it pertains to has been illustrated clearly and concisely. You're just being obtuse by design due to your acknowledged love for his selfless work on another board.

 

[rpbb]

Well in order to use the search function I would have to know the topic it pertains to. Its fine, Jano has done nothing but good things over at the other forum I am a member of and what he has done has no monetary gain for him.

Let it go

 

[MisterSuperGod]

Well in order to use the search function I would have to know the topic it pertains to. Its fine, Jano has done nothing but good things over at the other forum I am a member of and what he has done has no monetary gain for him.

His reputation here as a liar and a troll has been documented. What he does elsewhere is on him, but he fucked up and that's what he has to live with if he insists on remaining a member here.

 

[Wisco]

I appreciate the info, not sticking up for anybody, was just curious.