Killing my battery

[Popeye32]

• Hello MESO Thanks for giving a newbie a chance i will try and not f--- it up. Well to start off I'm 32 5"9 190lbs my bench is 285 squat 250 dead 300 been lifting since teenage years but has been off and on over the years. Bout to start my first cycle. Test prop 300ml a week. I know I done a lot of reading and studying maybe should have started with test c or test e my goal is to gain 20 to 25 pounds of muscle but lose the same amount of fat also I'm eating About 2000 to 2500 calories a day not sure if I need to eat more or less to gain muscle but lose fat. Also work outside 8 to 10 hours a day

 

[cflow69]

Test P ur goona feel more pain than u would want to for your first cycle ...cheers man and welcome to meso

 

[Popeye32]

Test P ur goona feel more pain than u would want to for your first cycle ...cheers man and welcome to meso

Thanks glad to be here just went with test prop to keep water retention down

 

[CdnGuy]

Welcome to Meso man. But remember though Ai can help with water issues GL

 

[Popeye32]

Thanks appreciate info time for more studying might change up first cycle.

 

[Bigtack]

I have never been much of a calorie counter, more like a cow grazing all day. A good day of eating for me is eating is 8-10 solid meals consisting of at least 40 grams of protein and 75 carbs. That is to grow though.... my mentors told me that I should never be hungry, follow this format and you will get really tired of eating. Especially if you are eating clean.

 

[Popeye32]

Yes I'm eating clean but not 100 percent . If I tried 8 meals a day. Won't that be a lot of carbs. How much time do you spend on cardio a day plus lifting. To make sure when I Grow it my muscle not my gut Thanks for info

 

[Bigtack]

I do not try to combine gaining and leaning at the same time. So when I am gaining I do very little to non existent cardio because it steals needed energy from my lifts. When I am leaning I do low impact cardio 3 to 4 times a week. My way is not for everyone because some people like to stay ripped up all year long, but I dont, especially when I am trying to mass up. I eat my meals clean all of the time regardless of what my goal is. I only change two diet things when I am gaining. 1. I have ice cream or pie filling before bed (sounds crazy, but my mentor who had some serious cred as a old school IFBB pro introduced that to me) 2. I mix up a weight gainer and set an alarm in the middle of the night to wake me up to drink it.

As for workouts, they are intense, usually around 1 to 1.5 hours. HEAVY WEIGHT as in 400+ benching, 600+ squatting and deads when I am gaining. Obviously I go lighter and more reps when leaning out.

The most important thing I can tell you is that you will respond to different things in different ways, so you really need to experiment with what you respond to. Keep accurate logs if you need help keeping stuff in your head to compare and take lots of pictures as you are trying different things. Your mind can trick you, but good pictures will tell the truth. Do the same poses each time, use the same camera each time, take them in the same place each time, and if you are interested in comparing a specific body part make sure you get pictures that are apples to apples, dont decide you are going to compare your delts in a picture that you just trained delts with to a picture that you didnt just train delts in.

Good luck!