Kratom- Who Uses It For Pre-workout Or Just In General?

@Havoc most people that have been here a while know I'm a recovering addict ..we have a thread .cheers .
Cool deal man I didn't mean to sound like I was busting your balls. I know what the addiction is like on a level. I was wounded really bad in combat and had to take them for years man. Its great that you're clean now though.
 
I really don't understand how kratom has gotten associated with bodybuilding...

I've used kratom quite a bit. Definitely different than opiates however, it's also something that could turn into a problem for some individuals. If you're going to use it, I suggest it to be used sparingly.

With that said, I do feel that it's very likely a safer alternative than any opiates you'll be prescribed by a doctor.

I have a bit of experience with kratom, and I can understand how it may be associated with bodybuilding. some bodybuilders are ahead of the curve, and have found off label uses for different drugs, because drugs designed specifically for bodybuilding don't really exist.
mitragynine, one the active drugs from kratom is structurally related to yohimine, which is used by some bodybuilders to help with fat loss, and it may also share some of the same properties. for me, at moderate doses, kratom is a mild stimulant similar to caffeine, which some bodybuilders use. it suppresses my appetite in a similar way to ephedrine, which some bodybuilders use. it also raises my body temperature, but more than an EC stack. it gives my body a warm feeling and ill sweat or feel hot during activities I normally would not. that could be a sign of thermogenesis.
the only real side effect ive experienced is feeling good. some people seem to equate drugs that make you feel good with bad or recreational, unless of course theyre talking about steroids. I would say, that's their problem. really, I could and have substituted kratom for coffee, and could substitute it for EC. or I could cycle them since they work in different ways. or use them together.

so today, I'm going to introduce the ECK stack. ephedrine, caffeine, and kratom. theres already the ECY stack, but I like this one better, because Ive never really gotten good results from yohimbine. this is something ive used and will use again.
 

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