L Carn

[Michaelangelo]

Has anyone used injectable L Carnitine?

As a first time user I ordered 1000mg / ml and this stuff is super thick .

I can only draw with a 18g needle and when I inject with a 25g needle ( 50 cc @ 500mg) it takes both thumbs to push it through and prob around 45- 60 seconds .

Also I put some on my finger to rub and it feels like lube and after awhile it gets sticky like honey .

I store it in the fridge also and I let it sit out and nothing changed. I messaged the supplier SSA and they assured me that it’s good to go and very normal . I sent them videos and they confirmed it’s due to the high concentration.

Chatgtp says that according to all my information above that it was more than likely mixed with glycerol and should feel like water by touch and never sticky . And if it’s mixed with oil or glycerol to absolutely not inject it . It also stated you should be able to draw it with a 25g needle although it would be slow .

I bought a whole kit and don’t want to waste it , I’m just looking for someone that can co-sign that they use this protect . Reddit and Google are dead ends and chatgtp say it’s a no go .

Thanks !! I appreciate yall.
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[JustJoe]

You keep quoting that without going into the fact that the only FDA approved use case is clinical deficiency of natural l-carnitine, usually for patients in renal failure. It's IV delivered in a larger dose because dialysis patients require the quick restoration since dialysis pulls the l-carnitine from plasma levels and clinically this is the fastest way to replenish l-carnitine levels to physiologic amounts.

FDA does not recognize the use of l-carnitine for fitness or bodybuilding nor in the doses we use or recommend for this purpose.

Also as it pertains to IV use, a lot of compounds require heavy dilution when administered via IV for patient comfort, even if it extends the time for IV infusion. So IV concentrations would generally be lower if it's ready for use, or higher if it's designed to be added to a saline solution bag, since the saline would dilute the compound.

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/277602877_Tolerability_of_hypertonic_injectables

 

[JustJoe]

I’m saying that even if empower is marketing 500mg/ml it’s more hypertonic than any solution approved by the fda for IM or SC use, about ten times higher

 

[JustJoe]

I’m not saying not to use it: I use 1g of 500mg/ml that I brew myself, I just dilute it down to 333mg/ml in a 3ml syringe and use IM. But I also know that it’s tonicity is not within a level that is compliant with any pharmaceutical safety standards anywhere

 

[BeardedGuy]

I’m not saying not to use it: I use 1g of 500mg/ml that I brew myself, I just dilute it down to 333mg/ml in a 3ml syringe and use IM. But I also know that it’s tonicity is not within a level that is compliant with any pharmaceutical safety standards anywhere

Do you use sterile water or BAC to dilute?

 

[JustJoe]

Do you use sterile water or BAC to dilute?

Bac water. The BA in bac water helps reduce pip because it’s a mild anesthetic. BA used alone as an anesthetic in eye surgery and for people allergic to lido

 

[tehducky599]

Anyone know a source for 1000 mg/ml for L Carnitine concentration now that SSA went belly up? Concentrations for l Carnitine at this dose seems difficult to source.

 

[fw190jd]

Waste of money

This, no bioavailability

 

[BoccA]

I love it. Used before training and about 1000mg before hard cardio.

The doping Nike runners were using 20 grams of the stuff via IV. It worked so well they had to ban it

 

[just some dude]

Has anyone used injectable L Carnitine?

As a first time user I ordered 1000mg / ml and this stuff is super thick .

I can only draw with a 18g needle and when I inject with a 25g needle ( 50 cc @ 500mg) it takes both thumbs to push it through and prob around 45- 60 seconds .

Also I put some on my finger to rub and it feels like lube and after awhile it gets sticky like honey .

I store it in the fridge also and I let it sit out and nothing changed. I messaged the supplier SSA and they assured me that it’s good to go and very normal . I sent them videos and they confirmed it’s due to the high concentration.

Chatgtp says that according to all my information above that it was more than likely mixed with glycerol and should feel like water by touch and never sticky . And if it’s mixed with oil or glycerol to absolutely not inject it . It also stated you should be able to draw it with a 25g needle although it would be slow .

I bought a whole kit and don’t want to waste it , I’m just looking for someone that can co-sign that they use this protect . Reddit and Google are dead ends and chatgtp say it’s a no go .

Thanks !! I appreciate yall.
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i think some of these peptides get more painful the more acidic they are, and also thicker the more heavy they are

 

[Michaelangelo]

Anyone know a source for 1000 mg/ml for L Carnitine concentration now that SSA went belly up? Concentrations for l Carnitine at this dose seems difficult to source.

no bro. Im still looking for a source for all peptides . no one can touch SSA's prices and service IMO. If anyone finds something comparable let a brother know!

 

[just some dude]

hurts like a mf…. just me ?

 

[Spma852]

hurts like a mf…. just me ?

Yeah, me too! I suppose we are injecting acid directly into the muscle but it’s so worth it!

 

[Spma852]

no bro. Im still looking for a source for all peptides . no one can touch SSA's prices and service IMO. If anyone finds something comparable let a brother know!

Where are you in the world?

 

[AlexDavis43]

Yeah, me too! I suppose we are injecting acid directly into the muscle but it’s so worth it!

"but it’s so worth it!"

for what, specifically? what benefits have you experienced from injecting L-carnitine

 

[Spma852]

"but it’s so worth it!"

for what, specifically? what benefits have you experienced from injecting L-carnitine

it’s been mostly endurance and recovery benefits. I pin 1 g IM 5×/week and notice better work capacity on leg days and steadier energy through cuts but also during my day job because I’m in my feet a lot. It’s subtle but consistent, and just enough for me to stay motivated on tough days

 

[just some dude]

Yeah, me too! I suppose we are injecting acid directly into the muscle but it’s so worth it!

yeah wtf is up with that lol i thought i messed something up but then i tried BPC and sermorelin and it was PIP free

the stuff i got is 600mg/ml and it stings badly so i cant imagine 1000mg/ml. it was like this with glutathione and GHK-CU too.. i think its just the acidity / PH of the peptide. some people said NAD too but tbh i don’t even remember

 

[just some dude]

"but it’s so worth it!"

for what, specifically? what benefits have you experienced from injecting L-carnitine

unnecessary pain is retarded but the stuff definitely works especially if you’re deficient in it and it’s a good way to get l-carnitine while bypassing TMAO consumption with red meat

i know you said the studies on it increasing androgen sensitivity are iffy but literally with just 300mg i instantly noticed vascularity and fullness

 

[BigTomJ]

yeah wtf is up with that lol i thought i messed something up but then i tried BPC and sermorelin and it was PIP free

the stuff i got is 600mg/ml and it stings badly so i cant imagine 1000mg/ml. it was like this with glutathione and GHK-CU too.. i think its just the acidity / PH of the peptide. some people said NAD too but tbh i don’t even remember

If 600mg/ml stings it's shit.

It should be almost completely pain free

 

[aleo]

I bought some premade 600mg/ml and the pip was really harsh e.g. limping for the day levels.
I homebrewed some myself last month and there's only mild pip at 600mg/ml. That's without messing around with PH.

Neither where particularly thick. Draws through a 27g fairly easily.

 

[RockyP]

If 600mg/ml stings it's shit.

It should be almost completely pain free

This.

I've found 2 vendors that were marketed at 600 / ml but tested closer to 750 / ml and are fairly PIP-free. Once in a while I get some PIP but that's more due to the location than anything else.

I will not train without L-Carn (unless I'm on the road / vacation). There is a very noticeable difference in terms of stamina and pump without it.

Other good news is that some vendors are also doing sterility / endotox testing on their L-Carn, and it's not breaking the bank (like it does with some peptides).