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Soooo you're saying @janoshik doesn't know what he’s doing? What a intelligent one you are @OSGear

I am saying that the TAMC and TYMC testing of oils can lead to inaccurate results. And this is a fact.

Where did he say either of those things, and on what basis are you claiming that jano had an innacurate result?

Feel free to take the testing for good. Should we test 100 vials to see how accurate the testing is? The only valid result is that the people are using the products without problems. Contaminated products can lead to serious health issues... I guarantee you that is not the case.

Mr. Doug claimed in many of his posts that the products will fail the testing most likely and "he hopes is not gonna happen".

If the public information says that the TAMC and TYMC testing may lead to inaccurate results for oils, I will take that for good. That is an evidence already.
 
I am saying that the TAMC and TYMC testing of oils can lead to inaccurate results. And this is a fact.



Feel free to take the testing for good. Should we test 100 vials to see how accurate the testing is? The only valid result is that the people are using the products without problems. Contaminated products can lead to serious health issues... I guarantee you that is not the case.

Mr. Doug claimed in many of his posts that the products will fail the testing most likely and "he hopes is not gonna happen".

If the public information says that the TAMC and TYMC testing may lead to inaccurate results for oils, I will take that for good. That is an evidence already.
Can you actually speak in full coherent sentences? What are you even trying to say here?
 
I am saying that the TAMC and TYMC testing of oils can lead to inaccurate results. And this is a fact.



Feel free to take the testing for good. Should we test 100 vials to see how accurate the testing is? The only valid result is that the people are using the products without problems. Contaminated products can lead to serious health issues... I guarantee you that is not the case.

Mr. Doug claimed in many of his posts that the products will fail the testing most likely and "he hopes is not gonna happen".

If the public information says that the TAMC and TYMC testing may lead to inaccurate results for oils, I will take that for good. That is an evidence already.
Any testing can have innacurate results, the case is still such that other oils have passing track records and this one failed
I am saying that the TAMC and TYMC testing of oils can lead to inaccurate results. And this is a fact.



Feel free to take the testing for good. Should we test 100 vials to see how accurate the testing is? The only valid result is that the people are using the products without problems. Contaminated products can lead to serious health issues... I guarantee you that is not the case.

Mr. Doug claimed in many of his posts that the products will fail the testing most likely and "he hopes is not gonna happen".

If the public information says that the TAMC and TYMC testing may lead to inaccurate results for oils, I will take that for good. That is an evidence already.
Any testing can have innacurate results, the case is still such that other oils have passing results and this one failed. Theres no reason to assume the test is at fault here, unless Jano explicitly indicated that the result is unreliable, which to my knowledge he has not.
 
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Any testing can have innacurate results, the case is still such that other oils have passing track records and this one failed

Any testing can have innacurate results, the case is still such that other oils have passing results and this one failed. Theres no reason to assume the test is at fault here, unless Jano explicitly indicated that the result is unreliable, which to my knowledge he has not.
Spot on my guy. @OSGear just won’t admit they’re a bunch of dicks
 
Any testing can have innacurate results, the case is still such that other oils have passing track records and this one failed

Any testing can have innacurate results, the case is still such that other oils have passing results and this one failed. Theres no reason to assume the test is at fault here, unless Jano explicitly indicated that the result is unreliable, which to my knowledge he has not.

A batch contain between 4.000 and 10.000 bottles, depending on the product. Is not possible for a single vial to be unsterile... it means all the vials are. I am telling you that this is highly improbable, if not impossible. If that would be the case, all the sources will face an avalanche of issues to deal with, not only us, because we are a multi-brand source.

Another aspect is that Mr. Doug (Billbo98) is a very suspect individual and if you look at the vial, it has no labels. God knows what's in that vial.
 
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A batch contain between 4.000 and 10.000 bottles, depending on the product. Is not possible for a single vial to be unsterile... it means all the vials are. I am telling you that this is highly improbable, if not impossible. If that would be the case, all the sources will face an avalanche of issues to deal with, not only us, because we are a multi-brand source.

Another aspect is that Mr. Doug is a very suspect individual and if look at the vial, it has no labels. God knows what's in that vial.
Or one vial was stored improperly leading to it being unsterile, or the whole batch is unsterile. Beligas recently has been having serious quality control issues, especially on the quality of the stoppers/vials, it wouldnt surprise me to see that lab in particular having contamination. Accusing him of being suspect is hardly a defense of your product
 
Or one vial was stored improperly leading to it being unsterile, or the whole batch is unsterile. Beligas recently has been having serious quality control issues, especially on the quality of the stoppers/vials, it wouldnt surprise me to see that lab in particular having contamination. Accusing him of being suspect is hardly a defense of your product

Mr. Doug is a source scammer and on other boards everyone agrees with that. And not only in this case with oils but also with the HGH he tested. I will explain:

He found that by testing HGH for endotoxins and AAS oils for sterility, the products will or might fail the testing (the oils specifically) and he can use the results to get store credit for the products and this way he can get more products. But, in this specific case, he tested expired HGH after he stored it in his fridge for 1 year and the HGH was detected with endotoxins. There is no information how or where he stored the product for 1 year. Could have easily kept 1-2 vials at normal temperature and then ran the testing... nobody knows. Also, he is not running HPLC tests at all. More than that, contacted Janoshik and asked them to put our store name in the manufacturers section to post the results on the forums if we do not conform. We have provided proof of that. The manipulation factor is also to be considered in his speech, because he is claiming that the products are ours and that he is doing all this testing to help the community and show to the people how bad are the sources who do not conform and how good are the ones who offer him store credit. For example, he says that Naps sold him contaminated oils, BUT they are just great because offered him store credit for 20 vials.

"I sent in Geneza NPP from Naps and this Beligas Test E 300. The Geneza NPP from NAPSGear was taken care of immediately and customer service was amazing with them. OSGear has been a different story once confronted."

So you conform, the source is great. You do not conform, the source is bad. This is the way he is helping himself with some more products... is not helping the community at all.

You can check here:

Code:
https://ibb.co/XkZBTvwg
https://ibb.co/rRFZPLLx
https://ibb.co/pBt5fWjz
https://ibb.co/tphZMW53

Most commercial, high-quality recombinant human Growth Hormone has an endotoxin level of ≤ 0.1 EU/µg. So, If it's a 10i u vial (3.33 mg of gh), 0.1 EU x 3330 µg(3.33 mg) = 333 EU. His test shows more than 8 times less than that. Most recombinant human Growth Hormone manufacturers I found allow a ≤ 1 EU/µg endotoxin level. So, 40 EU in 10 iu of GH works out to 0.012 EU/µg. The result he got has shown that he tested a high quality GH actually.

Why is suspect: His story keeps changing, his claimed motives aren't logical. His timelines, storage and handling are suspect. The fact he is willing to go public for a refund clearly shows what his motives are.

Improper handling, condensation, vacuum seal pulling against an aging stopper (over a year) can allow moisture into a vial creating the conditions needed for bacteria to grow.

He didn't tested when he got the products and used some of them. But he knew he should test his "surplus" a year later (he got the product in December 2024 and tested it in November 2025, after the product expired). Why? Because he knew the storage and handling were suspect. Plus, he allowed the product to expire.

So you can take your own conclusion about the validity of this testing.
 
Mr. Doug is a source scammer and on other boards everyone agrees with that. And not only in this case with oils but also with the HGH he tested. I will explain:

He found that by testing HGH for endotoxins and AAS oils for sterility, the products will or might fail the testing (the oils specifically) and he can use the results to get store credit for the products and this way he can get more products. But, in this specific case, he tested expired HGH after he stored it in his fridge for 1 year and the HGH was detected with endotoxins. There is no information how or where he stored the product for 1 year. Could have easily kept 1-2 vials at normal temperature and then ran the testing... nobody knows. Also, he is not running HPLC tests at all. More than that, contacted Janoshik and asked them to put our store name in the manufacturers section to post the results on the forums if we do not conform. We have provided proof of that. The manipulation factor is also to be considered in his speech, because he is claiming that the products are ours and that he is doing all this testing to help the community and show to the people how bad are the sources who do not conform and how good are the ones who offer him store credit. For example, he says that Naps sold him contaminated oils, BUT they are just great because offered him store credit for 20 vials.

"I sent in Geneza NPP from Naps and this Beligas Test E 300. The Geneza NPP from NAPSGear was taken care of immediately and customer service was amazing with them. OSGear has been a different story once confronted."

So you conform, the source is great. You do not conform, the source is bad. This is the way he is helping himself with some more products... is not helping the community at all.

You can check here:

Code:
https://ibb.co/XkZBTvwg
https://ibb.co/rRFZPLLx
https://ibb.co/pBt5fWjz
https://ibb.co/tphZMW53

Most commercial, high-quality recombinant human Growth Hormone has an endotoxin level of ≤ 0.1 EU/µg. So, If it's a 10i u vial (3.33 mg of gh), 0.1 EU x 3330 µg(3.33 mg) = 333 EU. His test shows more than 8 times less than that. Most recombinant human Growth Hormone manufacturers I found allow a ≤ 1 EU/µg endotoxin level. So, 40 EU in 10 iu of GH works out to 0.012 EU/µg. The result he got has shown that he tested a high quality GH actually.

Why is suspect: His story keeps changing, his claimed motives aren't logical. His timelines, storage and handling are suspect. The fact he is willing to go public for a refund clearly shows what his motives are.

Improper handling, condensation, vacuum seal pulling against an aging stopper (over a year) can allow moisture into a vial creating the conditions needed for bacteria to grow.

He didn't tested when he got the products and used some of them. But he knew he should test his "surplus" a year later (he got the product in December 2024 and tested it in November 2025, after the product expired). Why? Because he knew the storage and handling were suspect. Plus, he allowed the product to expire.

So you can take your own conclusion about the validity of this testing.
Again your whole narrative is defeated by my test for endotoxins I sent you here that shows it positive way before products expired. Please argue that fact for me now…
 

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Would you look at that! Here your dumbass is using the HPLC test I sent you WITH the same endotoxin test I show above but we know you love to pick and choose which results you use…
 

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