Labs going belly up

[TheGuy85]

Oh there are good sources that get mentioned on here, but they never advertise on here (usually). They usually are already on paid boards, someone does source check on here, gets feedback and that is the end of the thread. All your diamonds in the rough are threads that have been buried by these UGLs pushing their latest shit here. And if you think about it, your sources turned scammer are probably the same people who keep setting up new UGL names on here over and over. If you watch this section closely for awhile you will see new guys, SOMEHOW become respected members and over a few months they earn some type of credibility and end up turning into reps. I guarantee you there are members on here right now that have multiple handles and have earned your respect and are the same reps/sources who ended up scamming a bunch of fucking people. They are just sitting back gaining your respect so you believe them when they back a new UGL advertising on here. For your own good, stop using UGLs that advertise for free on here and just do source checks of sources on source boards. You won't get much of a response from members here (especially if your new), you may get a g2g, but take the initiative to PM the people who say a source is g2g after doing source check and ask about their experience and ask questions that don't make you seem like a cop . These will be the people who will end up being your best contacts/friends on this website.

 

[ItalianMuscle27]

granabolic?

LMAO!!!

 

[littlefella]

Im not trying to get around rules Big Paul. And new guy its simple.. These sources come in and give all the needed info their asked for and 2 months down the road are sending out floaters and scamming so in essence what did all that do for ya?? Im honestly not trying to rep out. Just speaking my mind.. Its like im the only one that sees that it always happens with these sources here...

The problem is this shit is going down ALL THE TIME at sponsored boards, you just never hear about it because that shit gets deleted. Meso may not be a perfect solution but it is far and away the best option most of us have, and it is constantly improving=D

 

[Big-Dan]

You know I used to believe that about sponsor boards but its not entirely true... Yeah if you start goin off the deep end on a source it will get deleted.. But plenty of ppl post about not receiving and mix ups without deletion... Everyone has to make their own decisions. I could shuffle out a handful of sources who have legit gear and wont take your cheese... Its all about taking risks and being able to read between the lines... EVERY source I use ive done small dvd orders the first few times I usually mix something up on purpose or make something hard to understand in my order to see how they handle it.. Once its an established relationship I stock it up... Ive lost my ass a few times but we live and learn

 

[heady muscle]

 

[devildog93]

Big Dan, i think throwing stones at the meso boards isn't going to go anywhere good. If you don't like something, well they are uncensored and everyone can post an opinion or a thought about why things should change.

As for sponsored boards...i think they suck ass and that is as plainly as i can say it. It is like reading game reviews by people who are paid for the advertising, it doesn't work. People like Alin, Marssel, and a host of others run around touting garbage on sponsored boards for years selling people scented oils in stealth pouches and doing whatever they want without being called to the carpet on it. If someone posts anything like a failed labmax or the like they are either shouted down by cronies or their posts are simply deleted off these other boards.

While i haven't been here all that long, i realize this is an attempt to self police the industry by bringing like minds and vested interests together to quickly bring to light any problems with suppliers. Sure, the guy who has been reputable for 6 months can up and flake in a heartbeat and take a handful of guys to the cleaners. The difference between those boards and meso should be in what happens next. The supplier on the other boards may have an extended stay by silencing opponents and unhappy customers, or even going so far as to ban them off their sites.

Here...well i have yet to see people disappear for posting failed labmax tests or mass specs. In fact, we have seen the labmax tests and mass specs actually work their magic in more than a couple of cases. In one instance it has burned a supplier pretty well and rather quickly. In others it brings to light a problem and gives them the chance to fix it.

In short, i think the chance of many getting burned if sourcing from this board is much, much slimmer. The response time to foul play is just too quick and communication of problems spreads too fast. If these are the only things meso is good for it has done a fair job in my opinion, because honestly, there are so many unscrupulous characters running around that i would no longer be interested if not for this board in particular.

I take great joy in every thread where a hack gets run off in short order, and so should anyone wanting to clean things up.

 

[heady muscle]

Big Dan, i think throwing stones at the meso boards isn't going to go anywhere good. If you don't like something, well they are uncensored and everyone can post an opinion or a thought about why things should change.

As for sponsored boards...i think they suck ass and that is as plainly as i can say it. It is like reading game reviews by people who are paid for the advertising, it doesn't work. People like Alin, Marssel, and a host of others run around touting garbage on sponsored boards for years selling people scented oils in stealth pouches and doing whatever they want without being called to the carpet on it. If someone posts anything like a failed labmax or the like they are either shouted down by cronies or their posts are simply deleted off these other boards.

While i haven't been here all that long, i realize this is an attempt to self police the industry by bringing like minds and vested interests together to quickly bring to light any problems with suppliers. Sure, the guy who has been reputable for 6 months can up and flake in a heartbeat and take a handful of guys to the cleaners. The difference between those boards and meso should be in what happens next. The supplier on the other boards may have an extended stay by silencing opponents and unhappy customers, or even going so far as to ban them off their sites.

Here...well i have yet to see people disappear for posting failed labmax tests or mass specs. In fact, we have seen the labmax tests and mass specs actually work their magic in more than a couple of cases. In one instance it has burned a supplier pretty well and rather quickly. In others it brings to light a problem and gives them the chance to fix it.

In short, i think the chance of many getting burned if sourcing from this board is much, much slimmer. The response time to foul play is just too quick and communication of problems spreads too fast. If these are the only things meso is good for it has done a fair job in my opinion, because honestly, there are so many unscrupulous characters running around that i would no longer be interested if not for this board in particular.

I take great joy in every thread where a hack gets run off in short order, and so should anyone wanting to clean things up.

Fucking well said!

 

[Big-Dan]

Devil dog listen very carefully to what im saying, I like the people and posts on this board. Im not throwing stones at meso... But while we are on the subject maybe you shouldn't throw stones at other boards or even speak up at all about things you don't know... Are there labmax threads on other boards? Fucking right their are. Do threads on paid boards get deleted? Yes but only when its just a ridiculous blast or some tard talking about something that shouldn't be openly viewed... If I was to go to say PM and get burned by a source. If he didn't deliver then I could openly post that I haven't received my package and im not getting customer support without any deleted posts... So the card where everyone says you cant post negative feedback on sponsor boards has been pulled. Its over a dead issue.... With that said take a hard look at the guys who have been burnt here... I mean its a big long list... Just about every source that catches support here goes south quick.. PEP,Bio,MFL I mean the list goes on and on.. And every single one of these labs were recommended to me by mesos big dogs... You know the ones who are protecting all the bruh's. F'in bro knowledge... You like seeing guys het ran off? I could name a few off the top of my head that caught meso bs and bailed... And are still going strong... Long past the checked out and recommended labs that you were fed here... I enjoy this board and horray for the guys that feel like they are being looked out for and all.. Im happy for you I truly am...

 

[devildog93]

I love seeing people get run off that don't conduct business in a professional manner or do their due diligence with testing products they pass on to consumers. That goes for all products, not just the ones here on the board. If someone sells a batch of 10% purity stealth packs to people they need to be shit-listed, end of story. I don't care if they claim ignorance, a simple oversight, or their dog ate the lab results. Not only are they ripping people off, but they are causing possible health complications as we saw with the female product thing that went on not too long ago.

I am not talking about someone getting a shipment seized and working out how to get it fixed, i am talking about ripping people off and laughing their way to the bank. The crap has gone on far too long. Hell, they are still in business i am sure, but as long as they aren't here i don't really care.

Without naming names from other boards, i have had a couple of issues. I was part of the stealth craptastic event a couple of years ago. Scented oils and who knows what else, but certainly not much true product floating around in it. Do you want to do business with a guy like that? Do you even want to give him a chance to make it right? I sure don't. You can't make right on a betrayal like that fellas. Even if he makes it right with the people who complain, is that how you expect things to run? Only the people who raise a huge stink and can cause waves get true product? Bah. Screw 'em.

As for trusted sources off this board, there are some running. I give HTP a thumb's up, but as we all know that is not good enough. If i had a good batch from someone a week ago i would still continue testing every single product i get with labmax at the very least. For $20 it really is our responsibility to cover ourselves as well. Flenser and others have talked about it many times. Just because you get a positive outcome does not mean things won't change in a month. We have to stay vigilant and try to keep it as honest as we can.

Since i have joined i have watched about 6 go down in flames, and for good reason...2 that have had very little issues and are running strong. If 20 had to go down in flames to produce 2 good ones then i think it is well worth the effort.

In closing, i would just say my time here at Meso has restored some of my faith in the community to keep things together and have them run the way some of us think they should. People have made it work and everyone gets the same treatment. Maybe it isn't perfect, but it is about as close as i have seen and i appreciate having it around.

 

[littlefella]

Somebody should make an insurance policy for juicers, so we can get our fucking money back if we get burned!

 

[BigShadow]

Ok from a guy looking in I cant help but notice most of the labs pushed and supported almost always go belly up pretty quick... I realize that this is common in the game but damn... These are just words out of my mouth and in no way pointed at anyone.. But I think you guys need to realize that the successful ugls out there coudnt give 2 shits if you demand pics of set ups blah blah... These guys are pulling hundreds of orders and don't have to prove thereselves to a few here... So they come here try to pick up some biz and get jumped with rules and negative bs... I just think a little understanding of the game and common sense should be utilized... I understand totally your trying to look out for each other and that's great. But the cold hard fact is meso method just aint fucking working... Ive seen labs get support here and always with the exception of astro most have went down faster than a blonde on prom night.. The tried and true sources just are not gonna jump on board with demands and hazing when they just simply don't really need the biz. I love this board and its hilarious and informative at the same time. I have a guy if someones interested get at me.. He aint gonna come back but ill give anyone directions on how to get him.. Ill donate something to get tested if one of the big names wants to test it or whatever.. I make no money from this guy and am not affiliated I just order ALOT from him and have pretty much everything on his line up on hand.. Im only doing this to help out guys who are interested I gain nothing from it other than maybe a little respect...

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