My rats have also stated the same thing, although they use green tea, it's good for research rats
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LABS toward end of Torem PCT, help!!
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illuminatty
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Damn and here I was going to order arimidex, nolva and clomid from them...
I think their nolvadex and clomid might be alright (Clomid seemed weak honestly) if you dose it high enough. But the arimidex is total shit. Even the guy who turned me on to CEM (before I was ever on this board), was running their adex and said it was shit and he ended up getting gyno. He runs like 1400-1500mg of Test a week on top of high dose of Tren (not sure how much but I think he takes like 700mg a week). He was taking over a milligram a day and it did nothing. Blueberry flavored water. I used CEM because they have frequent discounts and sales and have syringes, glassware, and filters, so it was nice having a one stop shop. But I can't deal with growing a pair of tits.
johnnyBALLZ
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The nolva and clomid I've gotten from them in the past were g2g..
Adex had to be run high at .75mg ED to keep E2 around 30.. IMO it did taste way too good to be true.
Adex had to be run high at .75mg ED to keep E2 around 30.. IMO it did taste way too good to be true.
illuminatty
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Gonna go with mjr...thanks for heads up folks.
My Estradiol was 78.4. I have never needed an AI b4 but since I was bumping my test up by about 200 more milligrams a week I decided to run the arimidex. Mind you I have never had any estrogen related sides from running around 500 or so milligrams of Test Prop a week. I started off with .5mg EoD, bumped to .75mg EoD still nothing, then 1mg EoD and still was puffy looking (and bloated looking) and nipples were acting up and I did feel kind of depressed, anxious and moody (not use to feeling like that ON cycle, usually I feel aggressive and motivated). The Liquidex was a deal breaker, I may have still used CEM chems and just dosed everything higher, but after having floating blue flakes in my liquidex and it not controlling estrogen at all, I am staying away.
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My oh my what a fine line we walk, in this world of running gear. When dudes are not careful, they grow tits and get moody and emotional and all bitchy and our balls start to shrink up and disappear. When females run the wrong compounds at the wrong doses they can grow clits the size of a dick, get body hair, a jawline like Bill Cowher and a voice deeper than Barry White.
And we wonder why the "normal people" at the grocery store stare at us and wonder what we are trying to do to ourselves? haha
Oh well, ya still gotta dig it when the girlfriend of the dude in line in front of you keeps turning around looking at your chest/arms as her boyfriend checks out the cute cashier in front of him!
raysugar1234
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Steroids can make a females clit grow?
Hell yea- give your bottom bitch winstrol for a couple months at double dose and she will be able to prison rape people. Scary shit. The have giant clit porn if thats what you like.
Be carefull when you have a bodybuilder chick behind you when You're on all fours
Seriously, If noticed early enough then then the drugs can be stopped and the symptoms may be reverisble. I has been reported that the enlagred clit can be more sensitive and make sex better or it can be too sensitive and make sex too sore for the female.
Anyone who is entertaining giving steroids to woman better know what they are doing and start ultra conservative.
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Be carefull when you have a bodybuilder chick behind you when You're on all fours
Seriously, If noticed early enough then then the drugs can be stopped and the symptoms may be reverisble. I has been reported that the enlagred clit can be more sensitive and make sex better or it can be too sensitive and make sex too sore for the female.
Anyone who is entertaining giving steroids to woman better know what they are doing and start ultra conservative.
Gun, this is one of those posts I wish I could "like" 20 times! This shit ain't no joke - the sides that can occur in girls when taking certain compounds at the wrong dosage are serious.
I have made this point here previously, but it is so effed up how many of us juicers react to scenarios like this.
If a source sold me mislabeled gear and it fucked with me, I'd be pissed but I'd also know that it happens in this game.
Now, if a source sold my wife or my little brother mislabeled gear and it fucked with them? My anger would be about 25 times more intensified than if the same thing happened to me. Effed up, huh? But true.
Think about it. If a local source (someone you could locate easily) sold you Winstrol/dbol and claimed it was var and it messed with you, what would your reaction be? Now, what if it was your wife or brother? If you're like me, the second scenario would bring a much harsher wrath! Screwed up? Maybe! But true!
Well, If you or I took mislabed gear that was actually dBol instead of Var, what is the worse that would happend? Some bloating and estro? We have our AI & SERMS on hand to protect us and we would simply start taking them. If your wige/GF/Sister/mother took the dBol then imagine what would happed?
This is one of the reasons to always start females on a low dosage and build up. So that if there are issues you can discontinue immediately and they shouldn't have permanent sides.
What type of testing does CEM do for raws and final products? Have they been helpful with anyones issues besides refunds or statements that products aren't used for human consumption?
I would like to see that CEM is taking steps for testing quality of raw products and correct label claims in the near future.
It's hard to do research on animals if the product is underdosed or wrong entirely.
mands
I would like to see that CEM is taking steps for testing quality of raw products and correct label claims in the near future.
It's hard to do research on animals if the product is underdosed or wrong entirely.
mands
Mike Oxbig
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I'm curious to know as well, but I doubt their position has changed.
They could of replied to JB's e-mail stating they would mass spec their products to ensure they were 'suitable for research' without accepting any legal liability. Why they chose to take the "it's not our problem" stance knowing full well it would be posted in this thread astonishes me.
PCT raws cost nothing, finished products are all profit. People didn't mind paying the premium that CEM was charging because they felt they got exactly what they were paying for. That unfortunately is no longer the case.
CEM knows how invaluable proper PCT products are to the community. They'll lose far more in future sales than it would of cost them to take accountability for the situation and ensure it wouldn't happen again. It's unfortunate.
johnnyBALLZ
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I know this is my home forum- the best one imo- and I wouldn't touch cem with a ten foot pole. Pct is serious business.
Bump! Would really like more insight into this problem.
mands
mands
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Mike Oxbig
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I just PM'd the CEM rep a link to the thread and asked for their thoughts.
I had a shipping question a while ago and when I PM'd the CEM rep and he spoke about the customer service rep in the 3rd person. CEM isn't a one man operation and it's possible there was a disconnect somewhere.
Perhaps the customer service rep underestimated the importance of JB's issue and took the 'research' angle a bit too far? Either way, CEM can no longer be used for 'research' until this issue is rectified and appropriate steps are taken to ensure this won't occur in the future.
I had a shipping question a while ago and when I PM'd the CEM rep and he spoke about the customer service rep in the 3rd person. CEM isn't a one man operation and it's possible there was a disconnect somewhere.
Perhaps the customer service rep underestimated the importance of JB's issue and took the 'research' angle a bit too far? Either way, CEM can no longer be used for 'research' until this issue is rectified and appropriate steps are taken to ensure this won't occur in the future.
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don't forget about the liquidex CEM
