Landmark Chem.....

[Ballpark Frank]

38 yrs old
242lbs
10% bf
Many many cycles under my belt.....

Ok, so a buddy and I were getting raw powder and mixing it up for ourselves and had no complaints and all was right in the world. A couple years pass and I have two bottles of sustanon left and feel like doing a light cycle. I didn’t feel like waiting the sometimes month and a half to get the raws then going through the trouble of cooking it all up. That was my mistake. I emailed “Jasen Wang” at Landmark Chem and ordered 3 bottles of cypionate finished oil. He was super on point and replied immediately and was all business. I wired him the money that morning and two weeks later had my bottles in the mailbox. I pinned 250mg (1ml) in my left glute the following morning. That evening my entire glute was swollen and red and pretty painful to the touch. I also had a light fever which I somehow failed to connect to the injection. 3 days later I pinned in the opposite glute. Same thing, severe redness and swelling and a light fever. Now this is where most of you will start throwing rocks at me but 3 days later (yesterday morning), with two red, swollen glutes I pinned in my right shoulder. By lastnight my entire shoulder was swollen and red and I had a fever again......
I email Jasen Wang and he tells me several clients have complained of the same thing. I tell him I’d like to send him the unopened bottles back and get two of a different brand. I’m at work now and don’t remember the brand name but it was one I haven’t heard of. Anyway......he says it’s from me not cleaning my skin and it’s completely normal. I tell him it’s not normal and I’d like to find a path forward in resolving this issue. He said I need to lower the dose..... from 250mg/ e3d.
My question is has anyone experienced this before and do you know what it is that causes it? High concentration of BA, maybe??? Any help in this matter would be greatly appreciated. And yes I’m already aware that I’m a dumbass for continuing to pin it twice more. Thanks in advance for your time and help.

 

[RowdyGrunt]

I've had that happen a couple times. I'm fairly meticulous about pinning, so it wasn't that I wasn't being clean. There was something in the oil that I had a reaction to. Mine doesn't sound as serious as yours; but I took an anti-inflammatory and it went away in a few days.

I'd say that there's something in that mix that you're simply not responding well with. Obviously, you don't want to risk that becoming an infection bro.

Is he willing to trade out? The couple times I've had it happen, a trade out wasn't a problem. It's not like you're trying to scam the guy.

 

[Ballpark Frank]

Nah, he doesn’t act like it. He’s in China so I’m hoping to start hearing from him again late this evening. If he doesn’t it’s ok I’ll find another source. Not like there’s much else I can do, lol

I've had that happen a couple times. I'm fairly meticulous about pinning, so it wasn't that I wasn't being clean. There was something in the oil that I had a reaction to. Mine doesn't sound as serious as yours; but I took an anti-inflammatory and it went away in a few days.

I'd say that there's something in that mix that you're simply not responding well with. Obviously, you don't want to risk that becoming an infection bro.

Is he willing to trade out? The couple times I've had it happen, a trade out wasn't a problem. It's not like you're trying to scam the guy.

r he’s

 

[Breakneck]

You had yours in 2 weeks delivered?

I'm waiting on LMC for over 20 days now.
No update to the package at all.
Their communication is great but damn man no idea whatsoever about delivery.
Was it like that for you?

I keep getting the "ok it'll update in a week" for 3 weeks now.

 

[Ballpark Frank]

You had yours in 2 weeks delivered?

I'm waiting on LMC for over 20 days now.
No update to the package at all.
Their communication is great but damn man no idea whatsoever about delivery.
Was it like that for you?

I keep getting the "ok it'll update in a week" for 3 weeks now.

You had yours in 2 weeks delivered?

I'm waiting on LMC for over 20 days now.
No update to the package at all.
Their communication is great but damn man no idea whatsoever about delivery.
Was it like that for you?

I keep getting the "ok it'll update in a week" for 3 weeks now.

If it was more than two weeks, it wasn’t much more. I was really surprised at how fast it got here. The brand name was Genesis UK and I don’t know wth is up with it. I’ve been in contact with the rep from landmark and he told me lastnight he’s sending another brand to me. It was a lot of back and forth but I guess it’s resolved.
Anyways...... did you order raw powder or finished oils??? I ordered finished so maybe that’s the difference??? Idk, hopefully you’ll be receiving it any day now.

 

[Breakneck]

Thanks for replying.

I ordered all raws.
I'm over 21 days now.
They are still communicating good but keep telling me it's in the country, it'll be updated, it's not lost, be patient etc. But no package updates in weeks.

They offered to send me another package and I'd have to pay them for it when I receive 2 packages.
I told them no that's double my order! This was imo a big order and my first order came fast from them. Under a week so this order is triple and counting.

I ran into other issues with them that I'll post when things resolve on the official LMC thread.

 

[Ballpark Frank]

Thanks for replying.

I ordered all raws.
I'm over 21 days now.
They are still communicating good but keep telling me it's in the country, it'll be updated, it's not lost, be patient etc. But no package updates in weeks.

They offered to send me another package and I'd have to pay them for it when I receive 2 packages.
I told them no that's double my order! This was imo a big order and my first order came fast from them. Under a week so this order is triple and counting.

I ran into other issues with them that I'll post when things resolve on the official LMC thread.

A month to a month and a half was pretty normal for me to wait. One time I waited about two and a half months. So long that I had pretty much given up and moved on. Three weeks isn’t too bad. I would get super anxious about there not being any updates on that track17 site until eventually it’s in customs here somewhere..... hopefully that’s the case for you as well.

 

[Breakneck]

Wow 6 weeks. Shit man that's a wait right there.

I appreciate sharing your experiences with this. I know it takes time to sort itself through.
My main worry is not having updates.
I don't like that at all. There hasn't been any changes in weeks and it fucks with my head.

My overall worry is watch there be an issue and they'll have to resend and it could be months before I can move forward with things. Guess that's all part of the game.

 

[Jwole33]

How are their raws? Been hesitant on pulling the trigger on doing business with them. Not much info or people talking about their product on the forums that I found.Not trying to hijack the post lol. Just curious.

 

[Breakneck]

I dunno but if this order pans out ok I'm buying Labmax and planning to do some sort of urine test(s) to test for the products advertised. I'm also drawing bloods too.

I know a urine test won't show purity % but it'll indicate fake products and ones cut with other compounds etc.
I told LMC I was posting my results on this site for everything I find.

I was up front with LMC that I was doing this all. Their communication has been really good but I am waiting on the drop still so we will see.

I'm surprised there's not a more organized effort to figure out the raws sources. Someone should develop a rating system to compare everybody.
My thing is LMC is a sponsor of this site and if they're selling garbage that should be well out there. I see mixed reviews. They're a reseller so they should seek to have a spotless reputation.

If it's all good people should support a sponsor before others etc. If they aren't they should step up their game and become the top dog in the game.

 

[Jwole33]

I dunno but if this order pans out ok I'm buying Labmax and planning to do some sort of urine test(s) to test for the products advertised. I'm also drawing bloods too.

I know a urine test won't show purity % but it'll indicate fake products and ones cut with other compounds etc.
I told LMC I was posting my results on this site for everything I find.

I was up front with LMC that I was doing this all. Their communication has been really good but I am waiting on the drop still so we will see.

I'm surprised there's not a more organized effort to figure out the raws sources. Someone should develop a rating system to compare everybody.
My thing is LMC is a sponsor of this site and if they're selling garbage that should be well out there. I see mixed reviews. They're a reseller so they should seek to have a spotless reputation.

If it's all good people should support a sponsor before others etc. If they aren't they should step up their game and become the top dog in the game.

Look forward to seeing the results.

 

[Camrocks]

To ballpark frank: I've had a bad reaction from pinning before and asked my doctor friends about it. Alot of it's got to do with whether or not the area gets activated. You're injecting a foreign substance in your body there's a decent chance itll get inflamed if you put a large quantity in or of you mess with it, ie dont try to massage it into your muscle. It can also vary with different carrier oil types. The cotton seed oil alot of pharma companies use really messes with me and at a minimum gives me nasty pip. I brew with grape seed oil and that usually works out.

To breakneck: I've ordered alot from lmc. Usually get my stuff in 2 to 3 weeks. Right now I'm a month out. Not really typical for them. Anyone hear of they're having trouble shipping?

 

[Breakneck]

To ballpark frank: I've had a bad reaction from pinning before and asked my doctor friends about it. Alot of it's got to do with whether or not the area gets activated. You're injecting a foreign substance in your body there's a decent chance itll get inflamed if you put a large quantity in or of you mess with it, ie dont try to massage it into your muscle. It can also vary with different carrier oil types. The cotton seed oil alot of pharma companies use really messes with me and at a minimum gives me nasty pip. I brew with grape seed oil and that usually works out.

To breakneck: I've ordered alot from lmc. Usually get my stuff in 2 to 3 weeks. Right now I'm a month out. Not really typical for them. Anyone hear of they're having trouble shipping?

They claim to be having all across the board issues with getting anybody deliveries.

I wouldn't touch them with business right now.

I knew in the first few days there was an issue with my package. I communicated this to LMC right away.
They kept telling me everything was ok despite me knowing it wouldn't be and telling them that fucking package co is telling me it's NOT coming.
They kept telling me otherwise.
Then it went through the whole it'll be coming next week. That happened several times at the end of each week etc.

They kept offering to send me another package and I'd have to pay for both because the first one was coming.

Then they finally said "Oops this never happened before. The first package isn't coming we'll send a reship. We're having trouble with hundreds of deliveries."

You motherfuckers. I told you that after the first 5 days...it's now 40+ days later and counting. They would not refund me because they said the first package was gonna be delivered. Then they refused to refund me when they were gonna send the reship.
They shipped it out without giving me a refund then used that as why they couldn't refund me even though they knew I wanted my fucking refund.

I have garbage hopes for the quality of this resend after them lying like giving crazy to me over and over and all the games they've played.

 

[ickyrica]

I told LMC I was posting my results on this site for everything I find.

I was up front with LMC that I was doing this all.

this makes your testing entirely worthless. Testing needs to be blind.

 

[Camrocks]

They claim to be having all across the board issues with getting anybody deliveries.

I wouldn't touch them with business right now.

I knew in the first few days there was an issue with my package. I communicated this to LMC right away.
They kept telling me everything was ok despite me knowing it wouldn't be and telling them that fucking package co is telling me it's NOT coming.
They kept telling me otherwise.
Then it went through the whole it'll be coming next week. That happened several times at the end of each week etc.

They kept offering to send me another package and I'd have to pay for both because the first one was coming.

Then they finally said "Oops this never happened before. The first package isn't coming we'll send a reship. We're having trouble with hundreds of deliveries."

You motherfuckers. I told you that after the first 5 days...it's now 40+ days later and counting. They would not refund me because they said the first package was gonna be delivered. Then they refused to refund me when they were gonna send the reship.
They shipped it out without giving me a refund then used that as why they couldn't refund me even though they knew I wanted my fucking refund.

I have garbage hopes for the quality of this resend after them lying like giving crazy to me over and over and all the games they've played.

Guess its not just me. They're stuff has always been good. I mean hell I pinned last night with their tren and spent 5 minutes coughing. Not the best test I understand, but still pretty authentic tren cough. but this damn wait is getting long. Very frustrating.

 

[Breakneck]

I hope it's good quality, but I don't want to name numbers, but it's a fucking LOT of reships they will have to send out. They sent me what they claimed is the count...

They'll have to eat the cost of many many many reships. No way they're keeping the quality to notch I don't think but who knows.

Actually I'll know if my package ever arrives...

 

[Breakneck]

this makes your testing entirely worthless. Testing needs to be blind.

I gotta disagree.
I'll know info at the end with what I'm planning to do.

I won't know the purity no but for me this is better than doing nothing.

I'll have bloods, urine and I'm looking to send away one of the common faked compounds.

That's not as good as lab testing but for me it's better than knowing nothing.

 

[LMC Raws]

I hope it's good quality, but I don't want to name numbers, but it's a fucking LOT of reships they will have to send out. They sent me what they claimed is the count...

They'll have to eat the cost of many many many reships. No way they're keeping the quality to notch I don't think but who knows.

Actually I'll know if my package ever arrives...

There is not many many reships, compares to the packages we have sent out and which had been received. Your package is approaching to your address. We appreciate your patience. But it's international shipping, things could happen even though we did our best. I wish you could be happier when you get it.

As for the quality of the reshipping products, you guys don't need to concern at all. We stand in this field so long for some reasons. It's meaningless to reship products with lower standard. We didn't and would never do things like that.

Rachel