Largest dose of tren you've gone up to?

[malfeasance]

700

I can't sleep at night.

Heartburn.

Night sweats.

This is going to be a precontest only hormone for me in the future. There really is no substitute for the look it gives, so . . .

 

[BobbySweeney]

That's just dumb. End of story.

What height and weight are you at that warrants the use of 1.2g of tren?

Like I said I get almost zero sides or damage from tren.
1.2 sounds stupid to this board, I'd say it's just unnecessary and a waste.
There's a huge thread where people switched the model and used 800mg of tren with 150mg Test a week and had almost no sides. I think you'd be surprised what happens when you keep test at minimum while using 800mg Tren En.

Also,
I'm gathering from personal experience and feedback here that somehow tren ace seems to kick a lot more ass than the slow ramping tren En. I bet I couldn't go above 400mg a week of tren ace. Tren En has almost zero sides for me, but I do take a proton pump inhibitor for the indigestion and use gut health supplements and dostinex.

Edit: As an aside, 50mg of Anadrol about kills me. BP, migraines, etc. immediately.

But I see guys taking 100mg.

And as a final note: I'm not ever going to take 1.2 grams of tren because honestly I don't think the pinning is worth it. I'd rather do 400mg of ace a week. Or drop it altogether and get some solid var and Winstrol and combine those.

 

[malfeasance]

It doesn't sound "stupid" to me, but it is a lot.

How does your cholesterol look on 800mg of tren? Have you ever run blood tests during a cycle like that?

I have. It ain't pretty.

Night sweats and insomnia are not the only "sides." These are just the things people notice.

Raised LDL and crashed HDL are sides most folks would never know about. Run bloods.

Your cardiac risk profile changes drastically along with changes in cholesterol.

 

[malfeasance]

Then weigh that risk against what you are trying to get out of the high doses of trenbolone.

What are you trying to get out of the high doses of trenbolone? Do you have a nationals pro qualifier coming up?

 

[lilhawk]

Years ago when I competed I ran tren at 700mg per week with Masteron at 700mg per week and test at 300mg per week. Looked the best I've ever looked, but wasn't fun to be around because of lack of sleep from tren, paranoid thoughts, anxiety, etc. Never ran tren again after that, but amazingly my bloodwork was normal on that cycle other than low HDL.

 

[BobbySweeney]

Then weigh that risk against what you are trying to get out of the high doses of trenbolone.

What are you trying to get out of the high doses of trenbolone? Do you have a nationals pro qualifier coming up?

Honestly?
It makes me feel warm at night, and leans me out quickly. Meanwhile, women look at me like a juicy steak. It's a mental addiction, it's not about getting more hyuugge. That's what DBol with Winstrol combo does for me.

 

[Test_Subject]

Honestly?
It makes me feel warm at night, and leans me out quickly. Meanwhile, women look at me like a juicy steak. It's a mental addiction, it's not about getting more hyuugge. That's what DBol with Winstrol combo does for me.

That's textbook substance abuse.

Tren is beyond bad for you. I did bloods on 600mg and they were fucked. That's what made me give it up. Side effects are not your biggest concern with tren. Just because you can tolerate 800mg doesn't mean that you aren't destroying your health by doing it.

 

[BobbySweeney]

I'll say something nobody wants to here:

- If you really want to keep your heart healthy, get your fat ass up and do cardio 3-4 days a week. Studies all point one way on cardio and heart health: moar is better.
I sprint and do steady state cardio 3 days a week and fucking hate it. But if you don't slip in the cardio department, tren doesnt fuck you over near as bad.

- Almost no one takes enough health supplements for their heart as they should; except me maybe, I'm on a shit ton. My health supplements cost more than my gear usage by far.

- Americans, which I am one of, have a different perspective of what fat means. My foreign friends think almost all of us are fat asses. Most of you seem to think 12-14% is lean. If you don't see all your abs and don't look good with your shirt off (athlete), you're not lean.

 

[BigBaldBeardGuy]

As a reminder:
Nobody "needs" tren.


What's the highest dosage you've run of tren? I get ZERO sides that I don't enjoy (I like the night sweats) so I like to run 600/800mg a week of tren En.

Next I'm moving that to 1.2 grams a week.
As long as I run cabergoline I'm fine.

What's the highest you guys have run?

On another forum there was a trend from a few people that started it: low test + high tren.

Make this semi-scientific. Post up before and after pics so the rest of us can see how effective 1.2 grams of Tren is.

There’s no “secret” way of running Tren. That other forum is full of shit with the “low test + high tren”. Just as many people prefer it the opposite way. If you want to add significant muscle mass, I would argue that “high test + lower Tren” is a more effective approach.

 

[BigDaddyV]

I quickly realized a couple of years ago that my body despises Tren - at least on the 375ace I was running. I had to cut it off by week 5 between the insomnia and massive digestion issues.

I am, perhaps foolishly, considering giving it one more chance at a much lower dose of no more than 150mg ace a week for 6 weeks....I am still on the fence about this one but damn it, I just really want to see how affects me, if I can find a sweet spot for myself.

I do not compete & I know is by far a compound that I do not need, but....the temptation is pulling me into the Tren world. It's hard to ignore, like an hour-glass figured redhead with wavy hair and perfect naturally firm milk bags.

So difficult to decide....

175 tren ace is perfect for me. Strength gains are great and aside from being out of breath easily I don’t really get sides. Minor anger but it’s controllable and is put to good use in the gym. If something dumb pisses me off like a messy kitchen table, I just hold it in and let it out when I’m lifting lol

 

[BobbySweeney]

That's textbook substance abuse.

Tren is beyond bad for you. I did bloods on 600mg and they were fucked. That's what made me give it up. Side effects are not your biggest concern with tren. Just because you can tolerate 800mg doesn't mean that you aren't destroying your health by doing it.

First of all, nobody claimed it was healthy for you or wasn't abuse.
"Beyond bad for you" is subjective.

I'd argue your diet and lack of cardio is beyond bad for you. Can you run five miles in one hour? I can, on tren.

 

[malfeasance]

Tren is beyond bad for you. I did bloods on 600mg and they were fucked. That's what made me give it up. Side effects are not your biggest concern with tren. Just because you can tolerate 800mg doesn't mean that you aren't destroying your health by doing it.

That's why I asked if he had run blood tests while on 800mg of tren.

 

[BigDaddyV]

That's textbook substance abuse.

Tren is beyond bad for you. I did bloods on 600mg and they were fucked. That's what made me give it up. Side effects are not your biggest concern with tren. Just because you can tolerate 800mg doesn't mean that you aren't destroying your health by doing it.

Tren addicts anonymous

 

[malfeasance]

First of all, nobody claimed it was healthy for you or wasn't abuse.
"Beyond bad for you" is subjective.

I'd argue your diet and lack of cardio is beyond bad for you. Can you run five miles in one hour? I can, on tren.

Just because other things are bad for others does not mean whether tren is bad for you is "subjective."

Run your bloods while on tren. Then tell us how subjective or objective those numbers are.

Hey, do what you want. I am not judging or even telling you NOT to do it. I just want you to have your eyes open and make a real judgment based upon actual risk factors, not going by Feelz, which is what your posting so far has implied.

Like you, I do not suffer a diminished capacity for cardio on tren. But like Test_Subject (and frankly like everybody human) my blood tests were, how did he put it, oh, yeah, "fucked."

At least check and know, then make your decision. An informed decision, fully cognizant of what is happening to your own body, what you are doing to it, and why.

 

[BobbySweeney]

Make this semi-scientific. Post up before and after pics so the rest of us can see how effective 1.2 grams of Tren is.

There’s no “secret” way of running Tren. That other forum is full of shit with the “low test + high tren”. Just as many people prefer it the opposite way. If you want to add significant muscle mass, I would argue that “high test + lower Tren” is a more effective approach.

... you're into powerlifting, I thought you were high body fat?

 

[Aftermath9716]

you tested your

That's why I asked if he had run blood tests while on 800mg of tren.

U ever tested yourself with a 300mg dose? I'm on day 5 of my tren cycle along with anadrol and i gotta say OMFG i feel like GOD my strength gains is so amazing! Insane leg day yesterday made me so happy lifting almost 100lb more than I usually do for leg press. First aas cycle i done was dbol and test results ok shit ton of water even with AI but pretty good strength, second deca and test along with var SUCKED ASS low strength results not that good strength didnt increase much and idk if var was fake or not bacause I didnt feel shit all from Hilma Biocare (never buying that brand again), 300 test tren mast with 350 anadrol (split anadrol 25monring 25 night) and HOLY FUCK BEST FEELING EVER no PAIN and lifting like an animal I actually feel I'm on Peds with this cycle, anadrol pharma from ZPHC and the mix from dark market prob underdosed BUT i know there's tren in it i got mild night sweat on day 3 and trensomnia usually I sleep for 8-10hrs but now 6 even less trying to force myself to sleep more, I know there is tren in here. Never had nightsweat before since DnP and my sleep isn't normal but very tolerable I don't want to stop! Tren and abombs makes me actually feel like Im done AAS fuck deca fuck dbol( way too much water). Im so happy

 

[Test_Subject]

I'd argue your diet and lack of cardio is beyond bad for you. Can you run five miles in one hour? I can, on tren.

You could argue that, but since you have no information regarding either my diet or cardio schedule, it would be a pretty specious argument.

I'm sorry that me telling you that what you're doing is harmful and irresponsible triggered you so badly.

 

[malfeasance]

you tested your

U ever tested yourself with a 300mg dose?

No, sorry, I have not.

While the answer would be interesting to know, that is not really what this thread is about, which us The Largest Dose of Tren You've Gone Up To. 300 is not my largest . . .

 

[BobbySweeney]

Just because other things are bad for others does not mean whether tren is bad for you is "subjective."

Run your bloods while on tren. Then tell us how subjective or objective those numbers are.

Hey, do what you want. I am not judging or even telling you NOT to do it. I just want you to have your eyes open and make a real judgment based upon actual risk factors, not going by Feelz, which is what your posting so far has implied.

Like you, I do not suffer a diminished capacity for cardio on tren. But like Test_Subject (and frankly like everybody human) my blood tests were, how did he put it, oh, yeah, "fucked."

At least check and know, then make your decision. An informed decision, fully cognizant of what is happening to your own body, what you are doing to it, and why.

Sorry, I should have reiterated this:

My doc checks my blood every 30-40 days and we do some other tests regularly as well. I do have a weakness: certain drugs really fuck blood pressure. Which is why Anadrol almost kills me.

I actually have normal values while on tren. I can post LabCorp results but that doesn't prove anything.

I can't reiterate enough:
Super clean Diet and REAL Cardio make a huge difference when you get bloodwork on tren. Admittedly I'm on a bunch of heart health supplements as well, but the diet and sprints and endurance cardio are what let me get away with tren.

 

[BobbySweeney]

You could argue that, but since you have no information regarding either my diet or cardio schedule, it would be a pretty specious argument.

I'm sorry that me telling you that what you're doing is harmful and irresponsible triggered you so badly.

You have no idea what my organs, diet, or blood work look like but claim tren is beyond bad for me.