Last minute suggestions please!

luex

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Test-E 500mg EW week 1-12
hcg 250iu 2x a week, Week 1-12
Anadrol 100mg ED Week 1-4
tren Ace 100mg EOD Week 5-12
HCG 500iu ED Week 12-14
Week 15-18 nolva 40/40/20/20 clomid 50/50/25/25


Goal: Gain muscle mass and size

What do I want from this cycle?
Make it to 220lb around 10% bf

Nutrition:
4k Calories
285g Protein
95g Fat
502g Carb

Push
Chest/Triceps/Shoulders (8-12 reps per set)
BB bench press 5 sets
Incline DB bench 3 sets
Skullcrushers 3 sets
Overhead DB extension 3 sets
Upright row 3 sets
DB lateral raise 3 sets

Pull
Back/Biceps (8-12 reps per set)
BB row wide grip 5 sets
Pull-ups 3 sets
T-bar row 3 sets
BB curl 2 sets
Incline DB curl 2 sets

Legs
(Quad focus) (8-12 reps per set)
Squat 5 sets
Narrow leg press 3 sets
Leg extensions 2 sets

OFF

Push (8-12 reps per set)
Chest/Shoulders/Triceps
Incline BB bench press 4 sets
Flat DB bench press 3 sets
Standing BB press 4 sets
Arnold Press 3 sets
Cable lateral raise 2 sets
Seated dips 3 sets
Tricep cable extension 2 sets

Pull (8-12 reps per set)
Back/Biceps
Pull-ups 4 sets
DB row 3 sets
Seated machine row 2 sets
Shrugs 4 sets
BB curl 3 sets
Concentration curl 2 sets
Hammer curl 2 sets

Legs (8-12 reps per set)
(Ham focus)
Wide stance leg press 4 sets
DB RDL 3 sets
Leg curl 3 sets
Standing leg curl 2 sets

OFF


About to pull the trigger on this one. Any last minute suggestions?
 
Test-E 500mg EW week 1-12
hcg 250iu 2x a week, Week 1-12
Anadrol 100mg ED Week 1-4
tren Ace 100mg EOD Week 5-12
HCG 500iu ED Week 12-14
Week 15-18 nolva 40/40/20/20 clomid 50/50/25/25

Goal: Gain muscle mass and size

What do I want from this cycle?
Make it to 220lb around 10% bf

Nutrition:
4k Calories
285g Protein
95g Fat
502g Carb

Push
Chest/Triceps/Shoulders (8-12 reps per set)
BB bench press 5 sets
Incline DB bench 3 sets
Skullcrushers 3 sets
Overhead DB extension 3 sets
Upright row 3 sets
DB lateral raise 3 sets

Pull
Back/Biceps (8-12 reps per set)
BB row wide grip 5 sets
Pull-ups 3 sets
T-bar row 3 sets
BB curl 2 sets
Incline DB curl 2 sets

Legs
(Quad focus) (8-12 reps per set)
Squat 5 sets
Narrow leg press 3 sets
Leg extensions 2 sets

OFF

Push (8-12 reps per set)
Chest/Shoulders/Triceps
Incline BB bench press 4 sets
Flat DB bench press 3 sets
Standing BB press 4 sets
Arnold Press 3 sets
Cable lateral raise 2 sets
Seated dips 3 sets
Tricep cable extension 2 sets

Pull (8-12 reps per set)
Back/Biceps
Pull-ups 4 sets
DB row 3 sets
Seated machine row 2 sets
Shrugs 4 sets
BB curl 3 sets
Concentration curl 2 sets
Hammer curl 2 sets

Legs (8-12 reps per set)
(Ham focus)
Wide stance leg press 4 sets
DB RDL 3 sets
Leg curl 3 sets
Standing leg curl 2 sets

OFF


About to pull the trigger on this one. Any last minute suggestions?
First thing, since you’re injecting a long ester don’t start PCT till at least 18 days after last injection. Other then that you must have your reasons for not running prop. If you haven’t ran anadrol before maybe start a little lower. Only reason is for cramping. It hits me bad. Sure you know what you can tolerate though: Good luck mate! Hope it goes well!
 
I like to wait until my Oils get good an kicked in before running any Orals. Id stretch the cycle to 16wks an start the Drol @wks8-12. That way you'll get the maximum affect from their synergy while their all working together fully kicked in. Jus puttin in my 2'ccs lol. Either way i hope you have a good run brother
 
@Skull defintiely some good advice man and I can see your point behind that...may reconsider where I place my anadrol in the cycle then...
@Evom1 Why 2000iu EOD? Wouldn't I recover fine off 500iu ED? I can't say I'm 100% confident in my knowledge on HCG..

Would taking Tren ED be more sufficient? More stable bloods? I've kinda gone by the motto less pinning = less risk ( reason why I'm not running prop @Bigboy727 ). So that leaves me reluctant to pin ED...but if the benefits are substantial I would definitely opt for ED.
 
@Skull defintiely some good advice man and I can see your point behind that...may reconsider where I place my anadrol in the cycle then...
If youve only ever used orals as a kickstarter to a cycle my brotha from anotha, then you have been missing out majorly on the real power they pack once they've been added mid-cycle. It'll change your life lol. Well maybe not your life lmfao but it will change your perspective on running orals. When i run em, ill go 4wks on 2wks off. Ill do that twice in one blast but i generally run longer blasts than suggested lol. I start my orals @wk6 an run em like stated above.
 
Your post said Tren EOD why not just Tren e instead of A Then?
Shit thats a good observation bro. If @luex has ran tren before an tolerates it well then why not kus run E instead of Ace??? It would deff cut down on pinning all the fuckin time lol.....That is if you dont mind all the pinning. Shit if i could get away with only having to pin once a month or once a yr lol id be down for it. The fewer the pins the better is how i look at it.
 
Shit thats a good observation bro. If @luex has ran tren before an tolerates it well then why not kus run E instead of Ace??? It would deff cut down on pinning all the fuckin time lol.....That is if you dont mind all the pinning. Shit if i could get away with only having to pin once a month or once a yr lol id be down for it. The fewer the pins the better is how i look at it.
The OP has some conflicting things in this post. Here is how I would do it for less pins. Please add your thoughts

Test-E 400EW week 1-12
Anadrol 100mg ED Week 1-4
tren E 400 EW Week 1-12
hcg 500iu ED Week 12-14
Week 15-19
nolva clomid100/
 
Last edited:
Test-E 500mg EW week 1-12
hcg 250iu 2x a week, Week 1-12
Anadrol 100mg ED Week 1-4
tren Ace 100mg EOD Week 5-12
HCG 500iu ED Week 12-14
Week 15-18 nolva 40/40/20/20 clomid 50/50/25/25

Goal: Gain muscle mass and size

What do I want from this cycle?
Make it to 220lb around 10% bf

Nutrition:
4k Calories
285g Protein
95g Fat
502g Carb

Push
Chest/Triceps/Shoulders (8-12 reps per set)
BB bench press 5 sets
Incline DB bench 3 sets
Skullcrushers 3 sets
Overhead DB extension 3 sets
Upright row 3 sets
DB lateral raise 3 sets

Pull
Back/Biceps (8-12 reps per set)
BB row wide grip 5 sets
Pull-ups 3 sets
T-bar row 3 sets
BB curl 2 sets
Incline DB curl 2 sets

Legs
(Quad focus) (8-12 reps per set)
Squat 5 sets
Narrow leg press 3 sets
Leg extensions 2 sets

OFF

Push (8-12 reps per set)
Chest/Shoulders/Triceps
Incline BB bench press 4 sets
Flat DB bench press 3 sets
Standing BB press 4 sets
Arnold Press 3 sets
Cable lateral raise 2 sets
Seated dips 3 sets
Tricep cable extension 2 sets

Pull (8-12 reps per set)
Back/Biceps
Pull-ups 4 sets
DB row 3 sets
Seated machine row 2 sets
Shrugs 4 sets
BB curl 3 sets
Concentration curl 2 sets
Hammer curl 2 sets

Legs (8-12 reps per set)
(Ham focus)
Wide stance leg press 4 sets
DB RDL 3 sets
Leg curl 3 sets
Standing leg curl 2 sets

OFF


About to pull the trigger on this one. Any last minute suggestions?
If gaining muscle and size is your goal, I would definitely recommend a test, eq, Deca, and anadrol cycle. Just my 2 cents.
 
The OP has some conflicting things in this post. Here is how I would do it for less pins. Please add your thoughts

Test-E 400EW week 1-12
Anadrol 100mg ED Week 1-4
tren E 400 EOD Week 1-12
hcg 500iu ED Week 12-14
Week 15-19
nolva clomid100/
Looks good brother. The only thing i would change is the TrenE from eod to twice a wk. Pretty much just pin the tren an test together.....Since the tren is e then theirs easily enough time to only have to pin it twice wk.
 
Lmao that was my mistake. I edited it.
Oh ok lol. I was like .....eod shouldn't be necessary with E. All is good brother. I fuck up an have to edit my shit all the time. That's what happens when i try to rush txt a post an don't take the time proof read it before posting bahahaha...Fuck it lol
 
Oh ok lol. I was like .....eod shouldn't be necessary with E. All is good brother. I fuck up an have to edit my shit all the time. That's what happens when i try to rush txt a post an don't take the time proof read it before posting bahahaha...Fuck it lol
Imagine blasting 400mg of Tren e EOD...:eek:
 
Me personally wouldn't run a oral with tren. Lipids are gonna be fucking trashed. If I were doing it I would replace drol with mast for the entire run. But that's just me.
 
Me personally wouldn't run a oral with tren. Lipids are gonna be fucking trashed. If I were doing it I would replace drol with mast for the entire run. But that's just me.
Fair. However running mast and Tren is probably the best cutting cycle to man. Op wants to gain muscle and strength. Would this change your mind? Would you completely change it up?
 
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