Lean Bulk Help

[Paratrooper509]

With the Pcom sale going on I thought I would go ahead and get my fall blast in place.. I am currently running

Wks 1-4 Dbol 30mg/day
Wks 1-16 Test C 750mg/wk
Wks 1-16 EQ 900mg/wk (Frontloaded 1500mg)
Wks 8-16 Tren E 400mg/wk
adex on hand; TRT post cycle

For the Fall I was thinking along the lines of:

Wks 1-12 Test C 500mg/wk
Wks 1-10 Deca 600mg/wk
Wks 8-12 Mix 2 twice a week (totals 150mg Tren A, 200mg Mast Prop, 150mg Test PP)

maybe add dbol? I don't want to do a full bulk and potentially lose the "cut" I am running now. What do yall think?

 

[GearGodess]

Wks 8-12 Mix 2 twice a week (totals 150mg Tren A, 200mg Mast Prop, 150mg Test PP)

this would do much better in your cut instead of a bulk... short esters are usually ideal in a cut and long esters in bulk...why not adrol instead of dbol in the cut. Leave the dbol with deca

 

[Notits]

Diet?

 

[Big_paul]

With the Pcom sale going on I thought I would go ahead and get my fall blast in place.. I am currently running

Wks 1-4 Dbol 30mg/day
Wks 1-16 Test C 750mg/wk
Wks 1-16 EQ 900mg/wk (Frontloaded 1500mg)
Wks 8-16 Tren E 400mg/wk
adex on hand; TRT post cycle

For the Fall I was thinking along the lines of:

Wks 1-12 Test C 500mg/wk
Wks 1-10 Deca 600mg/wk
Wks 8-12 Mix 2 twice a week (totals 150mg Tren A, 200mg Mast Prop, 150mg Test PP)

maybe add dbol? I don't want to do a full bulk and potentially lose the "cut" I am running now. What do yall think?

If you are on trt, you don't need to be concerned about the long half life of deca. I would stretch it out to 14 weeks or use npp.

 

[Paratrooper509]

thanks all.. @GearGodess I have had bad experience with adrol.. Too "toxic" for me which I why I used dbol. I agree the Mix 2 would be more ideal in a cut. My thought process went through "small bulk" then use the mix to cut some. I didn't want to get down to 10-12% bf in this 16 weeks then bulk it all away in the fall. Maybe I am trying to do too much in one cycle.. My typical bulk cycles have always been dbol/test/deca which adds lots of water so was trying to do something new.. I am very open to other idea's.

@Notits My diet now is 2,500 cals; 40/40/20 (241g protein, 121g carbs, 107g fat)

@Big_paul with Pcom NPP crashing as much as it is I am trying to stay away from that..

 

[GearGodess]

thanks all.. @GearGodess I have had bad experience with adrol.. Too "toxic" for me which I why I used dbol. I agree the Mix 2 would be more ideal in a cut. My thought process went through "small bulk" then use the mix to cut some. I didn't want to get down to 10-12% bf in this 16 weeks then bulk it all away in the fall. Maybe I am trying to do too much in one cycle.. My typical bulk cycles have always been dbol/test/deca which adds lots of water so was trying to do something new.. I am very open to other idea's.

@Notits My diet now is 2,500 cals; 40/40/20 (241g protein, 121g carbs, 107g fat)

@Big_paul with Pcom NPP crashing as much as it is I am trying to stay away from that..

Yes I think you are trying to do too much...What I found my guys like is a test/deca/tren... believe it or not it gives insane results.

And my 2 cents on the 'frontloading' of EQ... that's kinda a waste as your body can only accept so much, any excess is just a waste...

 

[Paratrooper509]

Yes I think you are trying to do too much...What I found my guys like is a test/deca/tren... believe it or not it gives insane results.

And my 2 cents on the 'frontloading' of EQ... that's kinda a waste as your body can only accept so much, any excess is just a waste...

@GearGodess Test/Deca/Tren E? What doses are they running and how long? I was hesitant about the frontload too but after reading a bunch of pro-frontload post and the fact that I would have had excess left over I figured why not try it.

 

[GearGodess]

Test/Deca/Tren E? What doses are they running? I was hesitant about the frontload too but after reading a bunch of pro-frontload post and the fact that I would have had excess left over I figured why not try it.

Based on what I have seen and read from doctors, it's a waste to do it unless you are able to calculate exactly how much you can put in your body before excess is rejected... that's too much thinking for me. lol ...you'd be better of leaving it towards your next run.

As for doses of the test/deca/tren - well they are all different. Some have test higher than the deca/tren and others even or less. Depending if you respond better on what level of test... being on trt, I would try 300-500mg test, 600mg deca and 600mg tren... start there and then adjust... most of them keep deca and tren the same and higher than test.

 

[Paratrooper509]

Based on what I have seen and read from doctors, it's a waste to do it unless you are able to calculate exactly how much you can put in your body before excess is rejected... that's too much thinking for me. lol ...you'd be better of leaving it towards your next run.

As for doses of the test/deca/tren - well they are all different. Some have test higher than the deca/tren and others even or less. Depending if you respond better on what level of test... being on trt, I would try 300-500mg test, 600mg deca and 600mg tren... start there and then adjust... most of them keep deca and tren the same and higher than test.

Sounds appealing.. Are these 10+ week runs?

 

[GearGodess]

Sounds appealing.. Are these 10+ week runs?

most were 12-16 weeks, one was 20 weeks.

 

[Big_paul]

thanks all.. @GearGodess I have had bad experience with adrol.. Too "toxic" for me which I why I used dbol. I agree the Mix 2 would be more ideal in a cut. My thought process went through "small bulk" then use the mix to cut some. I didn't want to get down to 10-12% bf in this 16 weeks then bulk it all away in the fall. Maybe I am trying to do too much in one cycle.. My typical bulk cycles have always been dbol/test/deca which adds lots of water so was trying to do something new.. I am very open to other idea's.

@Notits My diet now is 2,500 cals; 40/40/20 (241g protein, 121g carbs, 107g fat)

@Big_paul with Pcom NPP crashing as much as it is I am trying to stay away from that..

That's understandable. In the future then. Finish your cycles using short esters so you don't have to wait 6-7 weeks before you can begin trt.

That's what I did before trt. Now it doesn't matter how long it takes for nandolone to clear.

 

[Paratrooper509]

Finish your cycles using short esters so you don't have to wait 6-7 weeks before you can begin trt.

Not sure I follow.. Are you saying I can't cruise Test after a cycle by dropping my cycle dose to 100-200mg a week the week following my last blast dose?

 

[Notits]

Yes I think you are trying to do too much...What I found my guys like is a test/deca/tren... believe it or not it gives insane results.

And my 2 cents on the 'frontloading' of EQ... that's kinda a waste as your body can only accept so much, any excess is just a waste...

I like you. Glad your here.

 

[GearGodess]

I like you. Glad your here.

Lol thank you. Glad to be here!