My last three cycle have been
Weeks 1-6 75 mg/day IP Dbol (1/2 tab three times per day)
weeks 1-2 2500 mg / week Organon Karachi Sustanon 250 from Sombat - frontload for the 1st 2 weeks (2.8 ccs EOD)
weeks 3-12 1250 mg/week Organon Karachi Sust 250 from Sombat (1.4 ccEOD)
weeks 1-12 (1) 1.20 mg arimidex tab EOD - SBC arimidex
weeks 15-17 Clomid 100mg/day
I think I probably used too much test, and due to that I am going to use a lower amount of test next cycle.
Oh yeah Bob Smith!!

I sorta cheated. I did not use your gear you had listed.
I will NEVER use Deca because of the 17-18 month detection time and I will NEVER use Equi because of the 5 month detection time.
I will NEVER use winnie due to joint pain.
I will never use Tren Acetate because 1) it is pretty expensive and 2)If you are using plenty of Test I do not see the need for Tren.
To each his own but I, along with (5) very good friends of mine, have all gotten HUGE off IP's Dbol and Sombat'sOrganon Karachi Sustanon 250.
I think a lot of guys on Meso forget something very impirtant and it hinders their gains. For optimum results - KISS - Keep It Simple Stupid.
I guess I don't see the point of stacking 6 or 7 things. WHY?? When just a good ole Test/Dbol/Deca or Equi cycle will absolutely blow you up if all of the other variable are in place. And if you are taking sufficient quantities of arimidex, you can still get very lean and very cut with Prop/Dbol/Equi.
Hardcore 210 is a friend of mine and we have talked several times about a guy at our gym who always comes up to us and asks "What about Tren??" "What about Anavar??" "What about Primo??" "What about blah blah blah blah". I mean the guy is never satisfied.
Anyway, about 24 months ago, I hooked this guy up at our gym with a cycle - his first cycle ever. I bought him everything and sat down and had about a 2 hour talk with about everything. The guy was completely clueless. I had told him beforehand to go to anabolicreview.com and mesorx.com and spend atleast 3-4 weeks reading up on everything. He was so fucking lazy he told me he spent maybe 20 minutes. So again, like I was saying, the night I gave him his gear , I spent about 2 hours with him talking about everything.
Well to make a long story short, I kept his cycle EXTREMELY SIMPLE - KISS - Keep It Simple Stupid
weeks 1-6 50 mg/day Ip Dbol (1/4 tab four times per day)
weeks 1-12 1050mg/week Sombat's Organon Karachi Sustanon 250 (1.2 cc's EOD)
weeks 1-12 .25 mg arimidex/day (IP .25 mg arimidex tab)
weeks 15-17 100mg Clomid/day
This guy who was completely clueless basically, but, who after sitting down with me for 2 hours and going over EVERYTHING - Sleep, Diet, Cardio, supplements, AAS, water intake....everything - he ended up putting on 29 lbs and fucking blew up. He personally told me he had a bunch of people in our gym asking him if he was using steroids. It was extremely obvious. And talk about a SIMPLE cycle - 6 weeks of Dbol and 12 weeks of Karachi Sust 250 - that is about as SIMPLE of a cycle as you can get - and he fucking blew up.
I am not bashing anyone on Meso. I think it's cool when guys put in a ton of time researching and planning out their cycles. Some of these cycles obviously took a ton of time to plan out and I admire and respect any of you who have come up with these stacks.
I just know for ME, and for all of my friends I have introduced to AAS...............we will all KISS - Keep It Simple Stupid - and stick to very simple, very basic stacks.
Sorry Bob Smith I know I got way sidetracked from your original post.

You have my permission to kick my ass.

Or you can have Jewel kick my ass too!!
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