LIV.52 Question

[role model]

I noticed theres no milk thistle in Liv52.
Is there a reason why, since milk thistle is one of the best things you can take for liver health.
And if Your taking Milk Thistle can you add Liv 52 to it ?

 

[MaxRep]

I'm sure there would be nothing wrong with adding milk thistle. However, liv52 as it is has been shown to be very effective in protecting the liver in published studies. See below for a good study with double blind - placebo control.

Best regards,
MaxRep
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1: Phytomedicine. 2005 Sep;12(9):619-24
The efficacy of Liv-52 on liver cirrhotic patients: a randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled first approach.
Huseini HF, Alavian SM, Heshmat R, Heydari MR, Abolmaali K.
Department of Pharmacology, Institute of Medicinal Plants, No. 97, Bozorgmehr St., Ghods St., Enghelab Ave., Tehran, Iran.

Cirrhosis is the irreversible sequel of various disorders that damage liver cells permanently over time. Presently, the use of herbal medicines for prevention and control of chronic liver diseases is in the focus of attention for both the physicians and the patients; the reasons for such shift toward the use of herbals include the expensive cost of conventional drugs, adverse drug reactions, and their inefficacy.
In the present study, the efficacy of herbal medicine Liv-52 (consisting of Mandur basma, Tamarix gallica and herbal extracts of Capparis spinosa, Cichorium intybus, Solanum nigrum, Terminalia arjuna and Achillea millefolium) on liver cirrhosis outcomes was compared with the placebo for 6 months in 36 cirrhotic patients referred to Tehran Hepatic Center.
The outcome measures included child-pugh score, ascites, serum alanine aminotransferase (ALT), aspartate aminotransferase (AST), total billirubin, albumin, prothrombin time, platelet and white blood cells counts. The indices were recorded in all patients before and after 6 months of drug or placebo treatment.
The results demonstrated that the patients treated with Liv-52 for 6 months had significantly better child-pugh score, decreased ascites, decreased serum ALT and AST. In placebo administered patients all the clinical parameters recorded at beginning of the study were not significantly different than after 6 months.
We conclude that Liv-52 possess hepatoprotective effect in cirrhotic patients. This protective effect of Liv-52 can be attributed to the diuretic, anti-inflammatory, anti-oxidative, and immunomodulating properties of the component herbs.

 

[role model]

I'm sure there would be nothing wrong with adding milk thistle. However, liv52 as it is has been shown to be very effective in protecting the liver in published studies. See below for a good study with double blind - placebo control.

Best regards,
MaxRep
_________________________________________________________________
1: Phytomedicine. 2005 Sep;12(9):619-24
The efficacy of Liv-52 on liver cirrhotic patients: a randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled first approach.
Huseini HF, Alavian SM, Heshmat R, Heydari MR, Abolmaali K.
Department of Pharmacology, Institute of Medicinal Plants, No. 97, Bozorgmehr St., Ghods St., Enghelab Ave., Tehran, Iran.

Cirrhosis is the irreversible sequel of various disorders that damage liver cells permanently over time. Presently, the use of herbal medicines for prevention and control of chronic liver diseases is in the focus of attention for both the physicians and the patients; the reasons for such shift toward the use of herbals include the expensive cost of conventional drugs, adverse drug reactions, and their inefficacy.
In the present study, the efficacy of herbal medicine Liv-52 (consisting of Mandur basma, Tamarix gallica and herbal extracts of Capparis spinosa, Cichorium intybus, Solanum nigrum, Terminalia arjuna and Achillea millefolium) on liver cirrhosis outcomes was compared with the placebo for 6 months in 36 cirrhotic patients referred to Tehran Hepatic Center.
The outcome measures included child-pugh score, ascites, serum alanine aminotransferase (ALT), aspartate aminotransferase (AST), total billirubin, albumin, prothrombin time, platelet and white blood cells counts. The indices were recorded in all patients before and after 6 months of drug or placebo treatment.
The results demonstrated that the patients treated with Liv-52 for 6 months had significantly better child-pugh score, decreased ascites, decreased serum ALT and AST. In placebo administered patients all the clinical parameters recorded at beginning of the study were not significantly different than after 6 months.
We conclude that Liv-52 possess hepatoprotective effect in cirrhotic patients. This protective effect of Liv-52 can be attributed to the diuretic, anti-inflammatory, anti-oxidative, and immunomodulating properties of the component herbs.

Seems like good stuff, I'm going to add Liv 52 to my milk thistle.

 

[Stormbringer]

Hey RM, I use both also. Especially when on a Heavy Oral cycle, even up to Four times a day. Normally though, I just take them both morning and evening.

 

[role model]

Hey RM, I use both also. Especially when on a Heavy Oral cycle, even up to Four times a day. Normally though, I just take them both morning and evening.

I was taking it only once a day, I might up my dosage.