Live Well Pharmaceuticals - Fake Saizen HGH

[jjarv001]

I ordered a 100iu kit of their "Live Well" brand gh and two bottles of Serono "Saizen" gh. I tried the Saizen first. It stung and I got a rash so I did some research and was convinced I had fakes. I emailed Serono, the makers of Saizen, and they emailed me this:

"We just received confirmation from our global colleagues that the product labeling and packaging depicted in the photographs you provided is not consistent with any product manufactured by our company, globally. In order for us to further assist you in investigating the product we would require the product to be shipped to our labs for testing, along with any packaging materials and inserts you may have received with the product. Would you be willing to provide this information to us?"



Thank you,


US Customer Service

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EMD Serono

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[jjarv001]

Live Well Pharmaceuticals: Selling Fake/Counterfeit HGH (Saizen)

Here is what the bottles looked like:


They had some sort of sterile/bac water on top that you press down and mix with a white puck of powder at the bottom, which to begin with makes a big splash and basically reconstitutes the "GH". Even if it is GH this is a terrible design as it makes tons of turbulance similar to shaking a bottle. There was 2ml after mixing which doesn't line up with what the Saizen pamplet says either. As you can see it came in terrible, sketchy packaging - nothing like real Saizen. After 3 pins and the confirmation email from Serono, I threw it all out.

Crazy thing is I think this might be something totally different: Methlyprednisolone

(see examples below):

looks identicle and lo an behold, its 2ml...

BUYER BEWARE - HOPING TO SPREAD AWARENESS ABOUT THIS COMPANY

I have yet to try their brand gh that was sent, but am certain it's underdosed or not even gh. Kind of scared to take it actually.

The contact did rebate me very quickly - He should have gave me some real shit to keep my mouth shut...

 

[AKNYC1]

how much did you pay?

 

[jjarv001]

A lot, because I thought I was paying for pharma grade stuff. It was claimed to be the 8.8mg or 24.6IU each for $150 I think.

 

[biggerben69]

Those look like the same shit those 2 mutts from evo were pushing as Saizen a couple of years back. Paja was one of the lames and the other was something like gearman(sp?) or something?
The 2 were evo's first VIP's which helped lend to their facade of being legitimate. The 2 came here and things turned into a circus pretty quickly. Think it was ceo that first called paja out at evo and damn did he get lit up.
The grifters that make up the staff at evo were thrilled to have some legit scamming pieces of shit to help take the focus off themselves.(I not going to label @ceo as a scammer. In fact I believe him to be solid. I hope I'm correct?) When they(paja & gearman and evo staff) all came to meso one day things started to get really weird really quickly.
Evo bought advertising space here and all the staff at evo made up ghey handles to call themselves here at meso. It was like the power rangers or a ghey pride parade over here.
That paja sold those relabeled corticosteroids to one of evo's staff. Paja claimed that many were experiencing extreme fat burning, recovery, and new muscles cells were being produced by this miracle drug.
Those 2 were run out of here with the quickness. Gearman(whatever his name was?) claimed to have his procard. He was also caught trying floss. He posted what he claimed was his billfold. It was quickly proved that the pic was taken off off google images. The 2 had some kind of injectable vitamin business going that they claimed was gonna make them even more wealthy than they already were. I wonder if this could possibly be them?

 

[biggerben69]

No shit. Its Rick Rocks fucking shithole. Fuck that place. Fuck rick..fuck Dylan and all the other elitefitness groomed pickpocket carnies. Didn't look for the "Saizen" but I guess rick really liked the idea of fake saizen. Fucking punk.

 

[jjarv001]

Yuppp

This was through the infamous "Mundo" who posts all thus bs online and on his ig about Flex Wheeler and other clowns "sponsored" by them.

Thing is I don't even think they know they have fake shit. They are just putting as much crap out there and seeing what sticks. I KNOW people who have used their gear and had good results but ya.... Flex Wheeler defenitely isn't taking fake Saizen...

 

[jjarv001]

And I wouldn't be surprised if Paja and Mundo are one in the same. They even talk similar. Overusing the term: "brother"

Yes brother, sorry about that brother, I want you to be happy brother, thanks for understanding brother.

This guy is getting rich off people like me that are dumb enough and looking for a local source.

 

[biggerben69]

I'm not seeing any Saizen or any gh on the site. I see test suspension in a 10ml vial for $100 along with EQ 200, Test both for $100. Test cyp is $150. I also see insulin and oral aas. I see ghrp and sarms etc. No saizen. @jjarv001 ...help me see these things, please? If you want to email me please do.
Also, I read what I posted above and don't know why I brought evo and rick rock's name into this. They don't have anything to do with this live well pharmacy. Not sure what dots I was connecting?
Live well is supposedly a compounding pharmacy in Panama. At rick rocks sarm site they have nothing on Live Well there because they aren't making any money off them. If they were involved in the scam the pharmacy would be plastered all over that board.
This scam sounds like that place out of Florida that has pics of some ifbb guys wearing t-shirts with the company name. People point to the pros wearing the shirts as some sort of proof that they are legit. They are not. Its called Wellness something or other.
So, jjarv....please pm me the info you have on live well, please. I want to take the info and run around with it and see if I can piss anyone off. Thanks.

 

[biggerben69]

The Dangers of Medical Tourism: The Dangers of Medical Tourism: Concerns Regarding Michael O. Sigler, Live Well Pharmaceuticals, and Age Management Panama

 

[Mrhat39]

Those look like the same shit those 2 mutts from evo were pushing as Saizen a couple of years back. Paja was one of the lames and the other was something like gearman(sp?) or something?
The 2 were evo's first VIP's which helped lend to their facade of being legitimate. The 2 came here and things turned into a circus pretty quickly. Think it was ceo that first called paja out at evo and damn did he get lit up.
The grifters that make up the staff at evo were thrilled to have some legit scamming pieces of shit to help take the focus off themselves.(I not going to label @ceo as a scammer. In fact I believe him to be solid. I hope I'm correct?) When they(paja & gearman and evo staff) all came to meso one day things started to get really weird really quickly.
Evo bought advertising space here and all the staff at evo made up ghey handles to call themselves here at meso. It was like the power rangers or a ghey pride parade over here.
That paja sold those relabeled corticosteroids to one of evo's staff. Paja claimed that many were experiencing extreme fat burning, recovery, and new muscles cells were being produced by this miracle drug.
Those 2 were run out of here with the quickness. Gearman(whatever his name was?) claimed to have his procard. He was also caught trying floss. He posted what he claimed was his billfold. It was quickly proved that the pic was taken off off google images. The 2 had some kind of injectable vitamin business going that they claimed was gonna make them even more wealthy than they already were. I wonder if this could possibly be them?

The other guy was Analogman. But paja is the one with the dangerous gh scam. He is still out there somewhere, you can be sure of that. But he uses bad English, and I don't think he can cover that up. His mo is, he's huge and very helpful.

Mrhat

 

[biggerben69]

The Dangers of Medical Tourism: Exposing a Killer: Michael O. Sigler, Live Well Pharmaceuticals, Age Management Panama, and Medical Fraud, and the Sale of Toxic Pharmaceuticals in Panama

Page 12 in this link shows the sentence Dr Sigler was given in regards to the his guilty plea in federal court on charged of importing and distributing a controlled substance. This evidence shows that Dr Sigler took $50,000 from an undercover DEA agent. In exchange for the $50,000, Dr Sigler ordered one kilo of testosterone, 20 vials of hgh, and a kilo of sibutramine from his contact in China. All 3 were delivered to an address controlled by the DEA.
It is clear that the good Dr agreed to cooperate with the feds in a continuing investigation that will no doubt lead to federal charges for someone or several people at some point in the future. My concern is for people that may order illegal items being sold through the website. Our gov't has, in the past, taken over a website and has overseen illegal activity while collecting information on unsuspecting people. At a time determined by a US attorney individuals that engaged in illegal activity were rounded up and charged with crimes.
In years past I have posted a similar situation involving outlawmuscle. The owner of OLM along with one of the sponsors were named in a federal indictment and were charged with distributing aas and money laundering. The 2 also received "Time Served" and released. Those of you familiar with the Federal Sentencing Guidelines are well aware that this kind of sentence is indicative of the individual(s) cooperating with the feds to receive such a light sentence.
It was my belief when I first posted this info that OLM is under the control of the Feds and is being used to collect information to be used at a later date and I feel even more that this is the case.
This is a link to the indictment of Russo and one of his beloved sponsors....
http://legacy.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/metro/images/070924russo.pdf

 

[SauceBoss]

That's crazy .. I use their test and love it .. now I'm kind of scared to do business again