Liver, Glutathione and superdrol 10 days

[Liter O' Test]

Past 10 days
4mg Injecfable superdrol per day from @Arail
dosed 2mg IM A.M and 2mg SUBQ P.M

2g NAC per day
200-300mg Glutathione ED (and for a week or two prior to starting sdrol) from SSA
maybe their glutathione degraded at some point,

everything was going great for the first 8 days, mood and energy high

then day 9 I took a nap in the afternoon and then the next day (yesterday) i gave blood and felt like death in the afternoon. Appetite and everything is fine aswell. just feeling sick and tired.

sdrol probably made me feel like shit independent of enzymes, I just wanted my estrogen tested and figured I'd throw liver function on there, as I thought surely I could handle 4mg of superdrol and it must be my estrogen that has me feeling ill.

the 4mg was good while it lasted.

I did a few days of 8mg-16mg last year of a different source that had guaiacol in it, i tapped out after like 4 days on that so this seems like par for the course for me.


Don't know what it is but superdrol just isn't for me anymore.

I'll probably try running it again soon with another sources glutathione just incase it is the liver causing these side effects, since i do love superdrol

@Photon
@BamaCrazy







heres my TRT dose from @Stanfordpharma1 TEST U

 

[IndividualMan]

maybe try transdermal Sdrol instead of injectable, its less of a pain to use and feels less lethargic (maybe because the absorbed dose is lower)

 

[BamaCrazy]

Past 10 days
4mg Injecfable superdrol per day from @Arail
dosed 2mg IM A.M and 2mg SUBQ P.M

2g NAC per day
200-300mg Glutathione ED (and for a week or two prior to starting sdrol) from SSA
maybe their glutathione degraded at some point,

everything was going great for the first 8 days, mood and energy high

then day 9 I took a nap in the afternoon and then the next day (yesterday) i gave blood and felt like death in the afternoon. Appetite and everything is fine aswell. just feeling sick and tired.

sdrol probably made me feel like shit independent of enzymes, I just wanted my estrogen tested and figured I'd throw liver function on there, as I thought surely I could handle 4mg of superdrol and it must be my estrogen that has me feeling ill.

the 4mg was good while it lasted.

I did a few days of 8mg-16mg last year of a different source that had guaiacol in it, i tapped out after like 4 days on that so this seems like par for the course for me.


Don't know what it is but superdrol just isn't for me anymore.

I'll probably try running it again soon with another sources glutathione just incase it is the liver causing these side effects, since i do love superdrol

@Photon
@BamaCrazy





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heres my TRT dose from @Stanfordpharma1 TEST U

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Superdrol is one of the more hepatotoxic compounds that you can take. Your AST is not too bad but ALT is right there where I usually tap out.

 

[Photon]

200-300mg Glutathione ED (and for a week or two prior to starting sdrol) from SSA
maybe their glutathione degraded at some point,

I'm not sure if it degrades but when i used to use Korean pharma glut i would reconstitute like 7 vials at once and filter them all into 1 vial of their vials.

Do you have baseline ALT?
I'm running Halo 20mg a day now, getting labwork done next week.

 

[Liter O' Test]

I'm not sure if it degrades but when i used to use Korean pharma glut i would reconstitute like 7 vials at once and filter them all into 1 vial of their vials.

Do you have baseline ALT?
I'm running Halo 20mg a day now, getting labwork done next week.

I don't have a recent baseline but in years past my ast alt hasnt ben out of 40s without orals. but alot of variables change with time so who knows.

I just opened up another vial, pinned 750mg, gonna do another 750mg later.
did 500mg tudca and gonna take a bit more nac today aswell because i feel fucked.

 

[deadbeef]

i gave blood and felt like death in the afternoon. Appetite and everything is fine aswell. just feeling sick and tired.

Have you checked your ferritin? Those are the symptoms that people low on ferritin from donation report.

 

[eery]

Past 10 days
4mg Injecfable superdrol per day from @Arail
dosed 2mg IM A.M and 2mg SUBQ P.M

2g NAC per day
200-300mg Glutathione ED (and for a week or two prior to starting sdrol) from SSA
maybe their glutathione degraded at some point,

everything was going great for the first 8 days, mood and energy high

then day 9 I took a nap in the afternoon and then the next day (yesterday) i gave blood and felt like death in the afternoon. Appetite and everything is fine aswell. just feeling sick and tired.

sdrol probably made me feel like shit independent of enzymes, I just wanted my estrogen tested and figured I'd throw liver function on there, as I thought surely I could handle 4mg of superdrol and it must be my estrogen that has me feeling ill.

the 4mg was good while it lasted.

I did a few days of 8mg-16mg last year of a different source that had guaiacol in it, i tapped out after like 4 days on that so this seems like par for the course for me.


Don't know what it is but superdrol just isn't for me anymore.

I'll probably try running it again soon with another sources glutathione just incase it is the liver causing these side effects, since i do love superdrol

@Photon
@BamaCrazy





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heres my TRT dose from @Stanfordpharma1 TEST U

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this is what i hear from most people as well, after about 10-12 days at an oral dose over 10-15mg, people start to feel lethargic and sleepy.

The injectable version would equate to around 5-7.5mg in this example as its only 50% bioavailable orally if i remember correctly.

 

[Arail]

I'm sorry to hear your fun was cut short. I do feel your pain on this issue. I used to run 150mg anadrol a day for months on end but these days even mild doses of any orals leave me nauseous and lethargic after a couple of weeks. Safe to say I avoid them all now

 

[Liter O' Test]

I'm sorry to hear your fun was cut short. I do feel your pain on this issue. I used to run 150mg anadrol a day for months on end but these days even mild doses of any orals leave me nauseous and lethargic after a couple of weeks. Safe to say I avoid them all now

it worked amazing even at 4mg, libido and energy through the roof, I was doing extra cardio from it too, I'll be trying it again soon with korean glutathione and some other changes to my supplementation and GGT test.

 

[Arail]

it worked amazing even at 4mg, libido and energy through the roof, I was doing extra cardio from it too, I'll be trying it again soon with korean glutathione and some other changes to my supplementation and GGT test.

I hope that works for you! Let us know how it goes.

 

[Liter O' Test]

not sure if the enzymes caused my symptoms, I looked and I the days i felt like shit aligned with some cheat meals, and i felt like shit so i had another cheat meal and ive felt worse everyday since then so

 

[Tbaz192]

I was having insane issues constantly. I’d cycle for 4-5 weeks nothing crazy cycle wise. Just high test and anavar or another injectable.

But always around the 3-4 week mark.
I’d get hit with this dog shit feeling. Weakness in my arms and legs, fatigued HEAVY like I’d nap everyday no matter how much I slept, I’d get gassed out after 2-3 movements in the gym, headaches, & lack of libido during these problems. It was almost as if the gear was doing absolutely nothing by this point. Gym went down hill fast. Made a whole end of year post for me boys lol.

So I Saw a PCP & ENDO. They pulled labs after labs. I got ultrasounds, stress tests, took thyroid samples Etc.
nothing. All came back clean.
So I tired running my E2 higher and lower. Thinking it was E2. That Didn’t help at all.

Everytime though my ferritin was sub 20. And they didn’t say anything other than
“It’s fine”

So I was on TRT for months. Still having all those symptoms the whole time.
Decided to start taking ferrous biglycinate or whatever supplement every night weeks ago. Literally felt the symptoms fade away day by day.
Since then. My symptoms are completely gone. And I’m back to killing it in the gym. Still taking the iron as we speak. (Keeping an eye on blood levels due to taking the iron)

Literally all of my wild symptoms I just explained were from very low ferritin.
People can feel symptoms from below 50-60 ferritin I believe.
And iron/ferritin is so key in the body to keep stable.

 

[Liter O' Test]

So I was on TRT for months. Still having all those symptoms the whole time.
Decided to start taking ferrous biglycinate or whatever supplement every night weeks ago. Literally felt the symptoms fade away day by day.
Since then. My symptoms are completely gone. And I’m back to killing it in the gym. Still taking the iron as we speak. (Keeping an eye on blood levels due to taking the iron)

Literally all of my wild symptoms I just explained were from very low ferritin.
People can feel symptoms from below 50-60 ferritin I believe.
And iron/ferritin is so key in the body to keep stable.

I relate to this completely, I have an extremely similar experience.

I went to so many doctors and they all brushed me off, recently i guessed I might have a copper defiency, (unrelated to the sdrol symptoms) so I started taking copper and it had some pretty strong effects immediately. I got weirdly emotional , energized and clear headed an hour after taking it and I also suddenly got hot after the same carb meals ive eaten for the past month, I thought the A/C stopped working. I was emotional so I thought my estrogen was too high or low but it came back at 28. Before the copper, I was thinking of everything and ordered some caber thinking a few months of higher estrogen mightve led my prolactin to elevate cause i never test for it, well the caber came and I'm not touching it, not even a little dose for the dopamine tone because I don't want to mess with whatever just rebalanced.

I'm going to get all my shit tested soon for other defiencies, unfortunately i dont have labs for copper to prove I was deficient and i've been taking pretty high doses along with ghkcu so im sure serum is normalized now.

 

[Tbaz192]

I relate to this completely, I have an extremely similar experience.

I went to so many doctors and they all brushed me off, recently i guessed I might have a copper defiency, (unrelated to the sdrol symptoms) so I started taking copper and it had some pretty strong effects immediately. I got weirdly emotional , energized and clear headed an hour after taking it and I also suddenly got hot after the same carb meals ive eaten for the past month, I thought the A/C stopped working. I was emotional so I thought my estrogen was too high or low but it came back at 28. Before the copper, I was thinking of everything and ordered some caber thinking a few months of higher estrogen mightve led my prolactin to elevate cause i never test for it, well the caber came and I'm not touching it, not even a little dose for the dopamine tone because I don't want to mess with whatever just rebalanced.

I'm going to get all my shit tested soon for other defiencies, unfortunately i dont have labs for copper to prove I was deficient and i've been taking pretty high doses along with ghkcu so im sure serum is normalized now.

When ever I would take a copper supplement it was just like that as well.
Honestly was like whoa this feels weird.

Ended dropping the capsule copper & got Optimize Minerals on EBay (cheapest route) has a bunch of minerals /electrolytes and most importantly copper.
I put a scoop in my 1.5 L water first thing every morning.
Made it a thing to hydrate heavy before work & get those minerals in. ADHD problems.

Hopefully you figure it out!
Because I was lost for so long on my issues. Pretty much came to terms of having a mystery illness & shitty life with no fix for a while there lol.
All just for it to be ferritin. SMH

Just pull a full lab panel for sure. Cross things off the list. I’m about to do the same on Thursday.

 

[Liter O' Test]

When ever I would take a copper supplement it was just like that as well.
Honestly was like whoa this feels weird.

Ended dropping the capsule copper & got Optimize Minerals on EBay (cheapest route) has a bunch of minerals /electrolytes and most importantly copper.
I put a scoop in my 1.5 L water first thing every morning.
Made it a thing to hydrate heavy before work & get those minerals in. ADHD problems.

Hopefully you figure it out!
Because I was lost for so long on my issues. Pretty much came to terms of having a mystery illness & shitty life with no fix for a while there lol.
All just for it to be ferritin. SMH

Just pull a full lab panel for sure. Cross things off the list. I’m about to do the same on Thursday.

how much copper do you take and eat?
im pretty early into taking more copper so i expect even more improvement in the coming weeks

 

[Liter O' Test]

ah shit i forgot im on tren maybe its just the tren, no libido though so wtf

 

[oldgrey]

If it makes you feel any better, for using super drol your liver enzymes actually look pretty good lol! Not saying they are "good" or "healthy", but they arent horrible for such a harsh compound.

 

[Tbaz192]

ah shit i forgot im on tren maybe its just the tren, no libido though so wtf

My last run in with Tren also with my issues.
Tanked my ferritin to 13. Before it was 36 at the time on TRT

I didn’t feel a thing on Tren. Nothing at all.
Zero libido, zero aggression, like nothing at all. Tren Ace 80mg every other day.
First run with Tren Ace too.
Thought it was fake. But it’s definitely not. Big name source on here in the game for a longggg time.

how much copper do you take and eat?
im pretty early into taking more copper so i expect even more improvement in the coming weeks

No idea how much I eat in my normal diet. Or tbh what even is full of copper.
Goes to show how I might have a copper deficiency haha. Gonna go google that now.

But my mineral powder has 1mg in it per scoop.

 

[Liter O' Test]

My last run in with Tren also with my issues.
Tanked my ferritin to 13. Before it was 36 at the time on TRT

I didn’t feel a thing on Tren. Nothing at all.
Zero libido, zero aggression, like nothing at all. Tren Ace 80mg every other day.
First run with Tren Ace too.
Thought it was fake. But it’s definitely not. Big name source on here in the game for a longggg time.

No idea how much I eat in my normal diet. Or tbh what even is full of copper.
Goes to show how I might have a copper deficiency haha. Gonna go google that now.

But my mineral powder has 1mg in it per scoop.

seems like upper limit of copper is 10mg with studies around 15mg for raising levels. I took 12mg, 9mg, 6mg ,6mg. and 1.25-3.75mg ghkcu
not much libido increase with tren yet but i think the warmth i thought was from copper was tren and my HR is up 8 points

but my zinc intake was high and my dietary copper was non existent, just two mg from a multi (that also has other things in it to compete for absorption), and at one point my serum zinc was slightly low, this can be an indicator for copper defiency, no way my serum zinc should be low considering RDA is like just 10mg. i think a lot of doctors expect zinc to be high and thus competing for copper absorption but I read sometimes zinc can be low because copper is low.

do you know what caused your defiency?

 

[Tbaz192]

seems like upper limit of copper is 10mg with studies around 15mg for raising levels. I took 12mg, 9mg, 6mg ,6mg. and 1.25-3.75mg ghkcu
not much libido increase with tren yet but i think the warmth i thought was from copper was tren and my HR is up 8 points

but my zinc intake was high and my dietary copper was non existent, just two mg from a multi (that also has other things in it to compete for absorption), and at one point my serum zinc was slightly low, this can be an indicator for copper defiency, no way my serum zinc should be low considering RDA is like just 10mg. i think a lot of doctors expect zinc to be high and thus competing for copper absorption but I read sometimes zinc can be low because copper is low.

do you know what caused your defiency?

No clue what caused mine. But I’m adding zinc and copper to my labs.

Probably just wasn’t getting enough in my diet. And wasn’t supplementing anything during my problems, in hopes my labs would have answers but they didn’t.