julianahardcore
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Which liver protectors would be interesting to use during cycles of OXANDROLONE and STANOZOLOL?
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MESO-Rx
Anabolic Steroids
liver protectors
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RunTrenFcukTens
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UDCA, TUDCA, NAC, LIV 52
I still like the old school Liv-52 stuff. I only use it maybe once a year. But I just ordered the syrup and the tablets. Will be first time using the liquid.
Type-IIx
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None necessary with either at sane female doses (neither are particularly hepatotoxic; actually relatively mild in this regard). If anything, silymarin/milk thistle & a mitochondrial antioxidant is more than sufficient if running orals for consecutive monthslong periods. A combination of mitochondrial antioxidants as contained in Sanofi-Aventi Essentiale/Forte (I believe this contains at least most of the following: polyunsaturated phosphatidylcholine, vitamins B1, B2, B6, B12, E, and nicotinamide) would be more than sufficient for long-term use of these orals (but then you might shift concerns to lipid derangement rather than hepatotoxicity).
Hepatic supps are of questionable benefit during an oral cycle and are a waste of money when running parenteral AAS.
God&Gainz
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Then what do you recommend? Just not running anything for support and keeping our fingers crossed?
Limiting the dose and duration of oral cycles.
TrenTrenTren
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Agree. Have read several studies of even long term administration of oral steroids and no significant liver damage was noted.
julianahardcore
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@Dr JIM I do not drink. Would it be okay to use oxandrolone 5mg for a long period of time.?
canadian mutant
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Drink lots of water
Canknucklehead
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Define “long”
julianahardcore
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12 month
RunTrenFcukTens
Member
Damn, but I guess it’s only 5mg and not 40-80mg. Isn’t there other sides for women. It seems counterproductive.
Type-IIx
Well-known Member
That's a sane dose for a reasonable period. It's in line with long-term treatment of burn patients but greater than long-term treatment of hereditary angioedema. Hepatotoxicity is not a major concern, but I'd monitor GGT, ALT, AST at 3 month intervals and use the mitochondrial antioxidants and silymarin as mentioned out of abundant caution.
Canknucklehead
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Yes doable...
Make sure you take milk thistle...
Avoid alcohol
Avoid NSAIDS alike Advil and Tylenol
Get bloodwork done periodically to make sure everything is okay.
Personally I like to let my body heal periodically and come off sometime out of the year. Blast/cruise
I would do 12 weeks on with the var, come off 1 week. Do that four times and it will get you up to 52 weeks over a year and with that you get a month of off time.
Your weeks off, if you decide to go that route. Still train just crank back your intensity to about 90% and don’t train to failure.
Good luck and keep us posted!
