Turbo charged
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Tren long term is a awful idea by the way you won't be in the game long with that mentality.
MESO-Rx
Anabolic Steroids
Long term tren use blood work
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Based on what given my blood work? And what do you consider long term?
The-Optimist
Subscriber
There's no getting around Tren killing your HDL. It's just a risk you've got to judge worth taking or not. On 400mg Test P / week or 20mg Ostarine a day, my HDL is just barely in range at 40. 300mg Tren A a week drops that to 16.
How does it affect your ldl?
The-Optimist
Subscriber
Didn't affect LDL at all. Triglycerides went up but from 0.39 to 0.85 mmol/l which is still way off the top of the range, <1.7
Ill have a better idea of whats going on in 3 weeks. Made pretty big adjustments in diet and supps. But if i cant get my hdl and ldl up going to just drop down to 125mg of test a week to see of that fixes values.
Ambitiouslabrat
New Member
Hey man, I’m a noob but all the reading I’ve done in anticipation of starting this journey has said niacin while improving lipids on paper does not protect you.
There obviously aren’t studies on specific AAS users. But niacin was used as an alternative to statins for a long time and documented research showed that even though their lipids looked much better it did not increase life span or lower risk for CVD or heart disease. Compared to statins that also showed good on paperwork but proved to extend length of life and lower risk of these events.
Citrus bergamot has a similar effect to niacin, it might be just like niacin and improve the numbers but not be effective or it might not. This is a gamble some can choose to take and hopefully eventually we will get data if it’s truly effective.
Not saying this to make waves, just don’t want you or people to see good numbers on niacin and run something longer than you initially intended because everything looks great when research sais it’s just fudging the numbers and offering no actual benefit or harm reduction.
narta
Member
I don't dabble with tren. I have naturally low cholesterol levels and relatively good hdl, niacin is just an added compound not a cure or serious prevention measure. For that I rely when needed to medications.
Ambitiouslabrat
New Member
I’ve looked at ezetemibe a bit as a contingency plan. Seems better tolerated than statins side effects wise. Otherwise a statin a couple times a week if need be.
I haven’t even started anything yet, but I’ve been researching about a year to be as prepared as one can be. With being in my mid 30’s I intend to blast and cruise so really been doing my best to plan for anything down the road that can come up.
My LDL is always fine, but with my HDL is in the mid to high 40’s naturally, I am a bit apprehensive. I tried a ostarine cycle at 15mg/day and it put me at like 37 by week 8. Started upping my diet to see if I can get into the 50’s before I even begin my journey.
It wasn’t amazing by any stretch. Nor did I expect it to be lol, but I technically did raise my HDL before while on 420 Tren A, 120 Test Prop, with 20mg Anavar a few times a week pre workout, with 1050deca Tapering out of my system about half way.
21 to 30 for hdl in about 4 weeks because I really cranked up my E2 with injectable estradiol to 100.2pg/ml ( on top of the e2 from the Test prop) to also increase my SHBG too. I also upped my citrus bergamot from 500mg to 1000mg and sometimes 1500mg before meals , so that may have played a role too.
Who knows maybe i could have gotten In range if I kept on the protocol longer lol. I have my doubts as to how meaningful this is in terms of meaningful health improvement though considering what I was taking.
The only other thing that was off around this time for me was an elevated C reactive protein of about 6.2mg/L. Not sure if that’s diet related or directly due to the gear. I’m about to find out soon since I’m cruising starting December 4th and will clear out and retest everything.
