Longest You Have Run Tren and What Dose?

At steady state doses of ANY AAS the gains will become stagnant over time.

Oh yea you will maintain what you have but the anabolic benefit after 12-16 weeks of "cycling" is quite limited IME

(Yea I know of BB who run Tren or any other AAS continually for years)

Jim
I think you also have to add training also become stagnant and gains also stop.This why i limit my cycles (AAS and intense training) to 10 weeks....
 
RS
I certainly agree with FY the sides of Tren become very noticeable after roughly 50 mg QD, I would suggest you start at no more than 25mg/QD or 50mg QOD for at least TWO WEEKS and advance it slowly.

That being said if the dose exceeds 50 QD the sides begin IME

Best
Jim
When i used tren the first time i did it the other way :( I started with 75mg qd and pissed the color of tea,i then lowered it to 50mg a day and feel even thats more than needed....8 to 10 weeks is more than enough of tren for me...
 
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Apparently you see NO CONTRADICTION in what you just said!

Such as that you "know" "insulin is always used when HGH is cycled" and that insulin increases "fat cells", well then if both were true (and they are NOT), why does GH cause people to increase LBM rather than "increase" fat cells.

Ya see that's the problem with omnipotent visitors AP.

They make statements which they "know to be true" as if they are factually based.

The truth is these factually based statements are quite often FALSE because they frequently PARROT what others have told them to be true.

However nobody ever investigated the literature to determine THE TRUTH, so the bro myth continues, and you have mentioned several since your arrival!
Exactly why posts of banned members should also be deleted also so they can even be read........
 
Exactly why posts of banned members should also be deleted also so they can even be read........

I agree! So many of these idiots post dangerous bro logic that can and will get someone hurt or killed, especially when dealing with slin!
 
When i used tren the first time i did it the other way :( I started with 75mg qd and pissed the color of tea,i then lowered it to 50mg a day and feel even thats more than needed....8 to 10 weeks is more than enough of tren for me...

I don't know if the piss color thing is even something to be concerned about, if I eat a lot of beets my urine gets reddish, if I eat asparagus my piss stinks, those things don't cause me any alarm
 
I don't know if the piss color thing is even something to be concerned about, if I eat a lot of beets my urine gets reddish, if I eat asparagus my piss stinks, those things don't cause me any alarm
I heard tren was hard on the kidneys,so i used caution when i used it ( like using 75mg of tren a day is cautious) I wasnt expecting my piss to get dark so it sort of scared me because i never had that happen before. I lowered the dose and it didnt happen again.Iv'e done 4 cycles with tren in it and the low dose works for me,i would rather use more compounds at a lower dose than fewer compounds at a high dose.
 
I heard tren was hard on the kidneys,so i used caution when i used it ( like using 75mg of tren a day is cautious) I wasnt expecting my piss to get dark so it sort of scared me because i never had that happen before. I lowered the dose and it didnt happen again.Iv'e done 4 cycles with tren in it and the low dose works for me,i would rather use more compounds at a lower dose than fewer compounds at a high dose.
Metabolites of tren can alter the color of urine. Some have mistakenly concluded that the change in urine color meant that tren was nephrotoxic but it's more than likely just more bro science.
 
Metabolites of tren can alter the color of urine. Some have mistakenly concluded that the change in urine color meant that tren was nephrotoxic but it's more than likely just more bro science.

I've seen one "study" on Tren toxicity years ago and it involved COWS who were give this AAS ORALLY at a dose of 10mg/kg/day!

And yes 1+ proteinuria was noted in the urinalysis yet no renal function studies (BUN & Creatnine) were performed

And that's all some "brothas" need to conclude (and get their name on some "noteworthy forum") Tren is "toxic to them kidneys".

This is EXACTLY how that sort of nonsense starts and it continues because MANY bros decide to listen to the advice of another, and another, and another misinformed "bro".

The truth,TREN is about as nephrotoxic as that protein drink your consuming, but I'm sure you have heard that also ..................

JIM
 
Tiger - a list of what you're NOT running would have been shorter! :confused:

Well to be honest i wasn't to sure about the new tren i got until this morning. TREN COUGH! yes. lol. ..... I was trying to get some advise on what is good with each other and what is not. I know the winny(liquid) and deca go 2gether great. I wanted to keep my tren going with it b/c i have been seeing some great gains from it. I am going to add test-e but keep it at a low dose. Maybe .5ml monday+ same thurs. (250mg/ml)
 
IMO you can take tren at 50mg e.o.d. and you should get good results from that. I have been doing 25mg/e.d. and that works the best for me. I pushed it up where i was doing 700mg/week and i started getting headaches, wake up sweating when it 40 degrees outside. It stays 65 degrees or less at my house all of the time.
 
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