Look this over

[plmuscle]

I designed this cycle for a friend of mine

Test Enan 500mg/wk 1-8
Tren 100mg/ED 1-8
Winny 100mg/ED 8-14
Test Prop 100mg/EOD 8-14

Heatmiser by RedStar 3 times a day, every other week
Clomid 300mg day 1
Clomid wks. 15-16 100mg/ED
Clomid wks. 17-18 50mg/ED
HCG 500IU's 2 times a week wks. 15-16
Nolvadex wks. 15-16 40mg/ED
Nolvadex wks. 17-18 20mg/ED

Also have arimidex

Please critique this.

 

[Phreezer]

is that winstrol injectable or oral?

I think the cycle you laid out looks okay...If he's running tren for 8 weeks... you may just have him do 150mg EOD instead of 100 ed.. this will go a long way toward recovering injection sites...

I don't know what HeatMiser is (maybe I've been living in a cave) I run a different pct protocal but I assume this has been succesful for you in the past..so if it ain't broke.....

 

[dukebrown99]

Heatmiser, isnt that the T3 clen combo?

 

[plmuscle]

Thanks Phreezer. Heatmiser is T3/Clen/Yohimbe combo.

The winny is injectable. I checked your pct protocol out and I'll recommend that to him.

 

[basskiller]

his joints are going to hurt like hell towards the end of that cycle.. Winny is killer on the joints.. at least for us senior citizens

 

[borderbound]

id put a couple weeks of the prop up front and do the test e
weeks 3-11
but thats just me ... i dont know if the end result would be any better
but i like the way prop. jump starts a cycle without the water that goes with dbol

 

[hakt0ne]

I'm no vet but so maybe I'm wrong here but why 6 weeks of Prop at the end? The Enan would be out of his system in 3 weeks so couldn't you run the Prop @ week 10 or 11? From what I've heard about the pain of Prop I'd want to run it as short a time as possible. Maybe I'm missing something and sorry if it's a stupid suggestion.

 

[graybass]

The only thing I'd change, would be running the HCG week 13-14, and not during the Nolva/Clomid weeks. From what I understand, running them all together could hurt your PCT.

just my .02

 

[willie_man]

The only thing I'd change, would be running the HCG week 13-14, and not during the Nolva/Clomid weeks. From what I understand, running them all together could hurt your PCT.

just my .02

Yep...HCG is still suppresive, and you want those levels to go up....

 

[Einzelgaenger]

... I am assuming the point of this cycle is some kind of bulking/cutting hybrid, or something? Personally, I think it is a better idea, and one sees better results, by sticking to one or the other. Bulk a cycle, then cut a cycle.

I hope your buddy also realizes how many shots that is going to be per week.

If I was cutting, I would drop all the test and just do tren and winny and cut properly. If I was bulking: the test + maybe the tren.

I just do not see the point in using that much test if one is cutting. The Tren and Winny will keep your size at a decent level by themselves. The Test, in my experience, just confuses the matter, and ends up being more of a waste of money than anything else.