New to the Meso website been reading a lot of forum here the past couple of weeks learned a lot from Fakes and scams can someone give me a good source for HGH my buddy is no longer in the game and not looking to get screwed over can any body point me to the right direction here thanks.
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MANWHORE
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My last 2 touchdowns were from M4BTEAM. Before that I used Agent Yes.
swoleskunk
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y hgh ?
jakep
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From my understanding HGH is more often faked than any other steroid so be careful, especially when trying to find it offline. Not to mention it costs a shit ton.
MANWHORE
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You should be GTG
Well, I have returned to this board after some time until I was able to obtain a good r-HGH product. Over the last 7 years it has been frustrating for everybody in the industry to get quality r-HGH and consistently for that matter. I will briefly explain what I have done and then will have to figure out a way to let people know where to get it without breaking rules on the boards.. Just cannot remember if this was one where we can give out names etc.
So there are so many underground options for hgh but now people are finding out they are significantly under dosed. Here is why. So there is about 3.6-3.7mg of hgh per 10iu. What the Chinese have done is start off with a good product and then slowly decrease the potency over time. The cost of kits are quite cheap and there is a reason for that. The stuff is not cheap if you obtain pure hgh. These days you are lucky to find about 1.5-2.0mg per vial that they claim is 10iu. If you do the math you are getting about 4-6iu per vial not 10. Sometimes less. Sometimes little more.
Its best to just do serum r-HGH tests to see where your stuff is coming in at. Not iGF-1 test!! So basically a sub Q shot will peak between 3 - 3 1/2 hrs after the injection. Serono has done the test with I believe 8-10iu. They will give you a number that should register or come close. It is on there website. So, I will say this! All of the Chinese finished kits you buy will be under dosed. The question is by how much?
So, what I did was express my frustrations about this years ago as I am a competitive bodybuilder who does not want to think I am taking 5iu but really 2iu. Over time a partner and myself were able to invest in a company there to be able to have control over our own product. All we did was purchase the pure form of hgh, purchased a Lyophilizer and made sure that we accurately dosed each vial. To set up a sterilized lab in China was pretty easy. Money talks basically. So there are preservatives that are included with the hgh in the lyophilization process. 40 mg mannitol, 0.1 mg monobasic sodium phosphate, and 1.6 mg dibasic sodium phosphate are generally put in each vial. This is so the hgh can be stable and shipped the way it is. To make everyone aware the reasons why Nutropin made an Aqueous version was to increase the potency. Even Jintropin moved to that technology. So taking like 2.5iu of the Auqeous is like taking 4-5iu of the freeze dried product. Test it someday and you will see. 3.5iu of Nutropin AQ will make your arms fall asleep at night. The problem with the Aqueous is that it is only stable for a short time in transit. So if its not packed on ice in 3 days you are going to lose it.
Bottom line is this! We now produce a legitimate 100iu kits in Generic Form. Everybody on this site thinks they know it all and when I try to help they claim they are in the "know". No, actually I get to work in these Biotech Manufacturing Plants in Asia and I am sure I am one of few. To be honest, to make an accurately dosed kit of HGH only costs the Chinese maybe 50 extra dollars to make everybody happy but if you think about it.. 50 bucks multiplied by how many they sell is substantial. So, if anybody wants to PM me to ask more questions that is fine. I would prefer someone that is well respected on here. This way if they get a chance to try it they can do the blood tests and reveal to everybody that they are legit. If I give one away free there is no bullshit that I am this or that trying to benefit from this or scam or that.. Free is free... period. It took us two years to be able to do this.
Obviously there is vested interest in my partnership but we just want to give out a good product. The blood test will not lie. I would produce our results but anybody can doctor a sheet of paper. If it comes from somebody here then it will be trusted especially a moderator or somebody that has been given the respect.
Hope this sheds some positive light on HGH. Legit stuff is out there. It is a matter of when your source is honest or not.
So there are so many underground options for hgh but now people are finding out they are significantly under dosed. Here is why. So there is about 3.6-3.7mg of hgh per 10iu. What the Chinese have done is start off with a good product and then slowly decrease the potency over time. The cost of kits are quite cheap and there is a reason for that. The stuff is not cheap if you obtain pure hgh. These days you are lucky to find about 1.5-2.0mg per vial that they claim is 10iu. If you do the math you are getting about 4-6iu per vial not 10. Sometimes less. Sometimes little more.
Its best to just do serum r-HGH tests to see where your stuff is coming in at. Not iGF-1 test!! So basically a sub Q shot will peak between 3 - 3 1/2 hrs after the injection. Serono has done the test with I believe 8-10iu. They will give you a number that should register or come close. It is on there website. So, I will say this! All of the Chinese finished kits you buy will be under dosed. The question is by how much?
So, what I did was express my frustrations about this years ago as I am a competitive bodybuilder who does not want to think I am taking 5iu but really 2iu. Over time a partner and myself were able to invest in a company there to be able to have control over our own product. All we did was purchase the pure form of hgh, purchased a Lyophilizer and made sure that we accurately dosed each vial. To set up a sterilized lab in China was pretty easy. Money talks basically. So there are preservatives that are included with the hgh in the lyophilization process. 40 mg mannitol, 0.1 mg monobasic sodium phosphate, and 1.6 mg dibasic sodium phosphate are generally put in each vial. This is so the hgh can be stable and shipped the way it is. To make everyone aware the reasons why Nutropin made an Aqueous version was to increase the potency. Even Jintropin moved to that technology. So taking like 2.5iu of the Auqeous is like taking 4-5iu of the freeze dried product. Test it someday and you will see. 3.5iu of Nutropin AQ will make your arms fall asleep at night. The problem with the Aqueous is that it is only stable for a short time in transit. So if its not packed on ice in 3 days you are going to lose it.
Bottom line is this! We now produce a legitimate 100iu kits in Generic Form. Everybody on this site thinks they know it all and when I try to help they claim they are in the "know". No, actually I get to work in these Biotech Manufacturing Plants in Asia and I am sure I am one of few. To be honest, to make an accurately dosed kit of HGH only costs the Chinese maybe 50 extra dollars to make everybody happy but if you think about it.. 50 bucks multiplied by how many they sell is substantial. So, if anybody wants to PM me to ask more questions that is fine. I would prefer someone that is well respected on here. This way if they get a chance to try it they can do the blood tests and reveal to everybody that they are legit. If I give one away free there is no bullshit that I am this or that trying to benefit from this or scam or that.. Free is free... period. It took us two years to be able to do this.
Obviously there is vested interest in my partnership but we just want to give out a good product. The blood test will not lie. I would produce our results but anybody can doctor a sheet of paper. If it comes from somebody here then it will be trusted especially a moderator or somebody that has been given the respect.
Hope this sheds some positive light on HGH. Legit stuff is out there. It is a matter of when your source is honest or not.
PillarofBalance
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You don't want to get scammed so you're posting for a source on an open forum. Smart.
steroidsfax
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He's just asking for a VET or someone who he can trust to point him in a good direction.
Be honest P.O.B.
How did you get your first internet source? You probably had a VET, or someone you could trust give it to you. I'm not saying you made a post about it. But I think the OP probably knew he would get replies from scammers; I would bet he was hoping someone would also try to help him.
I agree with the point which I think you were making (its dangerous and not the smartest thing, to make a post asking for a source), but perhaps we could just admonish the guy to research, read, and be careful.
He is on basically the only board where he can read uncensored reviews of labs right? Without being a veteran or above?
PillarofBalance
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My first source came from a trusted real life friend not some character on the Internet. And it definitely wasn't a US domestic source with a website...
MANWHORE
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I used to PM all the Vets until
they got tired of it and gave me a source
Matter of Fact, I still do
they got tired of it and gave me a source
Matter of Fact, I still do
It is pretty damn smart! Although I recommend them I took the time to look around and observed vets useing the same site with good results. Steroidfax has so far kept me informed on my gear. I myself had a friend with a hook up get my stuff but he is getting a Different kind of injection these day he is doing life in prison.
steroidsfax
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I feel safe in saying you are in the minority of senior members/vets/vips, in having someone in your personal life give you an international internet source as your first one. Count yourself fortunate. Most people simply don't have that luxury, and are taken advantage of by some guy at the gym who wants to charge 2-300/vial. Oh, and then the same guy tells them to take deca alone, or something else equally stupid.
Thanks for your concern about the risks we are taking. Duly noted.
Had nothing whatsoever to do with you choosing to ridicule a new member who made an inexperienced request, which was the point of our conversation, at this point. But I appreciate you pointing out that this is a business with risks, and in light of your comments I would add the following.
You take more risks than your average person walking the streets, just by using AAS in the first place. Health risks....legal risks... So in the same way that a "normal" person would look at you; as a crazy risk taker, that is how you are looking at us now. We are taking additional risks. That is inarguably true. But it doesn't make us more stupid than other source, any more than you use of anabolics makes you more stupid than average Joe.
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MANWHORE
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Play Nice Boys 
steroidsfax
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Play Nice Boys
I honestly hope no disrespect is read into my post. I wrote it attempting to show p.o.b. the genuine respect he deserves. I'm sure many vets share his reservations.
