Looking for input on bulking cycle

[Billyt]

Hey this is for someone smarter than me please weigh in on thoughts or concerns on this bulking cycle. 35/m been blasting-cruise for about 2 years currently 6’5 about 280 18%bf (estimate)

Cal intake 4500 daily 1.5 protien per lbs/.5 fat per lbs/rest filled in with carb mix of white rice and oats for fiber

12 week cycle
Week 1-6
500test/250 deca
Weeks 1-2
Tbol 40mg daily
Igf 1 lr3 80mcg daily
Aromasin 2x weekly

Weeks 2-4
Tbol 80mg daily
Igf1 lr3 160mcg daily
Then stop Tbol and igf1

Weeks 7-12
750 test/500 deca
Weeks 8-12 add proviron

(Thought process is to front load the cycle to boost strength and then end with the proviron to dry out a bit and lean muscle)

Attached is most recent picture of body comp

 

[Juicedhead]

looks good. Id only use aromasin as needed tho. Have you ever used any gear before? Couple things you could change but looks pretty good in my opinion.

 

[Juicedhead]

make sure to use igf-1 around training. I use it after training. not sure how much lr3 does after i have researched it a lot latley and finding studies that its doesnt do much..

 

[Billyt]

I’ve been pretty consistent blast cruise for the last 2 years-

 

[Billyt]

make sure to use igf-1 around training. I use it after training. not sure how much lr3 does after i have researched it a lot latley and finding studies that its doesnt do much..

My research says lr3 half life about 9hours I was planning on igf post work out which is what I’ve read to do but my limited understanding that insulin and igf give you wild pumps is that supposed to be pre workout?

 

[Juicedhead]

oh nice so you have an idea how you respond to test some guys convert a lot some dont convert as much so i always use an AI as needed. But yeah man looks solid, should be a good cycle.

 

[Juicedhead]

My research says lr3 half life about 9hours I was planning on igf post work out which is what I’ve read to do but my limited understanding that insulin and igf give you wild pumps is that supposed to be pre workout?

yeah or you could do it pre training. test is out see what you like better. I guess I should have added I use it post with my insulin. but pre is probabaly going to help with pumps for sure.

 

[Juicedhead]

tbol is a good choice for this cycle. and at a good dose tbol is fucking awsome oral. Proviron is too I love both of those drugs.

 

[Billyt]

Also I’ve always run Adex 2x weekly but 6months ago switched to aromasin hearing it helped with heart health there has been times when I thought this killed my libido, but I was being irrisponsible and not getting my bloods done. Any input on this? I work in the mental health field so pretty in tune with emotions and also don’t drink or do any drugs so mostly very even keel I backed armosin off to once weekly should I stay there or kick it back up with the test going up

 

[Lionkingz]

Only way to know with your aromasin is to have your labs done. If you've been on blast for 2 years get you a quick lab to see where your estradiol numbers are at 1x dose per week. 6 weeks in do another lab and adjust as needed also might want to add in prolactin check at that 6 week lab using deca.

 

[Billyt]

I have caber on hand incase of lactation or serious drop in sex drive I’ve equated that to prolactin problems. Is there anything stopping
Me from doing proviron for the entirety of the cycle? Pros and cons of doing that?

 

[Astartes]

I have caber on hand incase of lactation or serious drop in sex drive I’ve equated that to prolactin problems. Is there anything stopping
Me from doing proviron for the entirety of the cycle? Pros and cons of doing that?

You will find with experience all this is very unnecessary unless you have extremely rare sensitivity to compounds.

If you have the spare cash to burn no harm in having on hand. Just do not use because you think you have to.

Don’t strictly use supplementary AI/SERMS/Anti Prolactin medications based on numbers alone. This is a critical inexperienced user failure.

Combine periodic testing and how you FEEL before opting in to these. Always start minimal and work up over WEEKS not days. Let the body calibrate

 

[Billyt]

I’ve slacked off on running an AI im currently at 500 test and after my cruise the first week I felt
Overly emotional and have now settled in and libido skyrocketed. I’ve run caber when doing a tren cycle in the past because I had some lactation and libido drop. Am I looking for the right estrogen symptoms? Generally speaking I’m paying attention to nipple sensitivity breast pain and being overtly emotional outside my norm. I also know estrogen also plays a role in sexual health, can anyone inform me on how spiked estrogen will manifest itself in sex life?

Thank you all for your patience and knowledge, most of my experience and knowledge comes from my own trials and research

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

I never understood why people use tbol.
So many other oral agents.

But why even proviron?

Proviron drying out for what? Just for 4 weeks? I mean if you wanna add it in that's fine. It just doesn't add anything to the big picture imo.

I would hardly even take proviron consideration as a true oral.

 

[Billyt]

I never understood why people use tbol.
So many other oral agents.

But why even proviron?

Proviron drying out for what? Just for 4 weeks? I mean if you wanna add it in that's fine. It just doesn't add anything to the big picture imo.

I would hardly even take proviron consideration as a true oral.

Tbol for strength gains, my understanding is basically dbol without the water retention, proviron increases androgenic effects of test due to it being a SHBG basically making more of the test we ingest go to muscle building making it more effective, my understanding do you have different thoughts on this or experience with the matter?

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

Tbol for strength gains, my understanding is basically dbol without the water retention, proviron increases androgenic effects of test due to it being a SHBG basically making more of the test we ingest go to muscle building making it more effective, my understanding do you have different thoughts on this or experience with the matter?

I feel like there are better anabolics for strength and size but that is me.
Just cause tbol is directly associated with performance and avoiding detection.

In reality, if you perform better in the gym, it will help facilitate growth.

Anabolics itself, especially dht derivates would achieve the same thing. They all drove shbg down.


I am a strong masteron user. It's my preferred anabolic for everything. Causes little to downsides for me.

Including achieving everything proviron is supposed to accomplish. So I guess I despise it lol. I also treat it as an anabolic ancillary for dryness, mental well being, and side effect management.

I feel like even adding in masteron 100-200mg a week would be beneficial over tbol.


and use a different finisher like anavar/winstrol.

but In the end. It definitely doesn't look like a crazy cycle, it's looks very reasonable.

I do have to ask. Why not hgh and why LR3?

 

[beastfromeast]

Looks great

 

[Billyt]

I feel like there are better anabolics for strength and size but that is me.
Just cause tbol is directly associated with performance and avoiding detection.

In reality, if you perform better in the gym, it will help facilitate growth.

Anabolics itself, especially dht derivates would achieve the same thing. They all drove shbg down.


I am a strong masteron user. It's my preferred anabolic for everything. Causes little to downsides for me.

Including achieving everything proviron is supposed to accomplish. So I guess I despise it lol. I also treat it as an anabolic ancillary for dryness, mental well being, and side effect management.

I feel like even adding in masteron 100-200mg a week would be beneficial over tbol.


and use a different finisher like anavar/winstrol.

but In the end. It definitely doesn't look like a crazy cycle, it's looks very reasonable.

I do have to ask. Why not hgh and why LR3?

Hgh vs LR3, cost mostly and from my limited research faster onset of growth than hgh