Low aromatizers: opinions plz

[TheDogSoldier]

How much test have you all used without AI?
@AlwaysHungry (thanks bud) has suggested in a previous thread that I am a low aromatizer.
I've just started a 6 week cycle at 450mg/week (T cyp dosed 2x/week). No AI as usual. I've been running self-trt at around 200/week. I've run some little cycles with dry compounds before, but never upped my test. I'll get my E checked at the end. I have Nolva on hand.
If this works out, I'll do more cycles and add dry compounds on top.
Thanks!!!

 

[Ridethelightningbarefoot]

How much test have you all used without AI?
@AlwaysHungry (thanks bud) has suggested in a previous thread that I am a low aromatizer.
I've just started a 6 week cycle at 450mg/week (T cyp dosed 2x/week). No AI as usual. I've been running self-trt at around 200/week. I've run some little cycles with dry compounds before, but never upped my test. I'll get my E checked at the end. I have Nolva on hand.
If this works out, I'll do more cycles and add dry compounds on top.
Thanks!!!

If you are a low or normal aromatizer 450 shouldnt give you any trouble. I wouldnt bother with any ai unless your getting symptoms. Nolva is a e2 blocker (selective estrogen receptor modulator) not a aromataze inhibitor

 

[TheDogSoldier]

If you are a low or normal aromatizer 450 shouldnt give you any trouble. I wouldnt bother with any ai unless your getting symptoms. Nolva is a e2 blocker (selective estrogen receptor modulator) not a aromataze inhibitor

Thanks man. I have the nolva just in case of gyno emergency.

 

[Ridethelightningbarefoot]

Thanks man. I have the nolva just in case of gyno emergency.

I shouldve mentioned im a low aromatizer and the first time I ever took one pill one time of an ai was when I ran 900test and 900nandrolone

 

[BackPain]

I am a low aromatizer but I get so damn sleepy when I try to increase my test dose... so much that my doctor prescribed E2 cream to alleviate symptoms of low E2.

You guys don’t get any such side effect from test?

 

[TheDogSoldier]

I am a low aromatizer but I get so damn sleepy when I try to increase my test dose... so much that my doctor prescribed E2 cream to alleviate symptoms of low E2.

You guys don’t get any such side effect from test?

Never even heard of that, maybe you should start a thread for it.

 

[eery]

How much test have you all used without AI?

300-350mg a week

 

[Test_Subject]

How much test have you all used without AI?
@AlwaysHungry (thanks bud) has suggested in a previous thread that I am a low aromatizer.
I've just started a 6 week cycle at 450mg/week (T cyp dosed 2x/week). No AI as usual. I've been running self-trt at around 200/week. I've run some little cycles with dry compounds before, but never upped my test. I'll get my E checked at the end. I have Nolva on hand.
If this works out, I'll do more cycles and add dry compounds on top.
Thanks!!!

I did 750 test without running anything and my E2 only came back mildly out of range (high).

I tried 1g but ended up having to take 12.5 aromasin twice a week with that because my blood pressure went up more than I was comfortable with.

Mind you, I was much younger when I did this, so I’m sure I couldn’t get away with that shit these days.

 

[Cashton]

How much test have you all used without AI?
@AlwaysHungry (thanks bud) has suggested in a previous thread that I am a low aromatizer.
I've just started a 6 week cycle at 450mg/week (T cyp dosed 2x/week). No AI as usual. I've been running self-trt at around 200/week. I've run some little cycles with dry compounds before, but never upped my test. I'll get my E checked at the end. I have Nolva on hand.
If this works out, I'll do more cycles and add dry compounds on top.
Thanks!!!

500 test right now and 600 deca with zero ancillaries.

 

[All Nats McGee]

Just because the “feelz” is good doesn’t mean you not harming yourself. Bloodwork is the only way to know this answer. I’ve seen people say they get no high E2 symptoms at 100+ pg/ml! From my research it’s hard to crash E2 on aromasin so stop buying adex. Adex is nice cause you can get away with dosing twice a week while aromasin you should be dosing ED.

Most people I’ve seen in person running 500mg+ of test and no AI look like water balloons honestly.

 

[Cashton]

Just because the “feelz” is good doesn’t mean you not harming yourself. Bloodwork is the only way to know this answer. I’ve seen people say they get no high E2 symptoms at 100+ pg/ml! From my research it’s hard to crash E2 on aromasin so stop buying adex. Adex is nice cause you can get away with dosing twice a week while aromasin you should be dosing ED.

Most people I’ve seen in person running 500mg+ of test and no AI look like water balloons honestly.

I have next to no water retention even on my current 500/600 test/deca without ancillary, guess I’m just lucky.

 

[Blue42]

800 Test / 400 Deca. Using Pharma's Mix #4 now and like it. Perfect 2:1 ratio of Test to Nandrolones for me. No AI. No issues. Added Proviron to the mix and feel even better. If I take AI, I feel like shit, get irritable, and my joints start to ache. Would rather have slightly elevated e2 than crash it.

 

[Cashton]

800 Test / 400 Deca. Using Pharma's Mix #4 now and like it. Perfect 2:1 ratio of Test to Nandrolones for me. No AI. No issues. Added Proviron to the mix and feel even better. If I take AI, I feel like shit, get irritable, and my joints start to ache. Would rather have slightly elevated e2 than crash it.

What AI do you take if you take one?

 

[Blue42]

What AI do you take if you take one?

Arimidex. 0.5 mg (half a pill) only when high e2 symptoms appear. I'm definitely more sensitive to some compounds. I can't take Dbol without an AI. I'd add Primo or Mast to the mix (if you're feeling symptoms) and see if you can control e2 with those. That's just my opinion. I really feel like complete shit with anything over the absolute smallest AI dose. Try getting hard when your e2 is crashed and you'll be much more judicious with the AI use!!! Speaking of Dbol... it works wonders if you do crash your e2. Few tabs of it with no AI will get you feeling better quickly!

 

[Cashton]

Arimidex. 0.5 mg (half a pill) only when high e2 symptoms appear. I'm definitely more sensitive to some compounds. I can't take Dbol without an AI. I'd add Primo or Mast to the mix (if you're feeling symptoms) and see if you can control e2 with those. That's just my opinion. I really feel like complete shit with anything over the absolute smallest AI dose. Try getting hard when your e2 is crashed and you'll be much more judicious with the AI use!!! Speaking of Dbol... it works wonders if you do crash your e2. Few tabs of it with no AI will get you feeling better quickly!

Figured as much, I’ll take an aromasin or a half of one every once and a while if I feel I’m getting watery or too emotional lol, I think that arimidex is more prone to crash e than aromasin.

 

[TheDogSoldier]

So for low aromatizers, since E is not a problem, why not just cruise at 500 year round? Is it just the lipids that keep people from doing that long term?

 

[Blue42]

So for low aromatizers, since E is not a problem, why not just cruise at 500 year round? Is it just the lipids that keep people from doing that long term?

That's my understanding. You're not gonna have much luck getting your numbers back in line on above TRT doses. I stick around 200-250/wk on cruise.

 

[EazyE]

Have used 750-800mg /week without AI and no issues. When I have pushed higher amounts then I still only use a small dosage of Aromasin. Something like 12.5mg 2x per week. But everyone responds differently. Blood work is important along with logging your experience.