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desertwarrior

desertwarrior

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As many know I was a fan of extremely high dosages in the past. Going to the extreme and not being the smartest I had a stoke and a pulmonary embolism. I believe at that time I was running 1200mg tren 800mg test 1000mg mast along with clen, t3, t4, 10 iu a day gh.

I’ve been only running 100mg test a week basically since this happened. Now I’m intending to run a small cycle likely 300 test and 300 deca. Will be running with my 677. Looking for advice on maximizing my gains with such small dosages.

Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks.
 
That's really powerful of you to share that, it has the power to save somebody from the same thing. Most people are shamed and that keeps them from helping others.

300 test and 300 deca sounds good! Less is more. You can always add more IF you are in that big of a hurry.
 
desertwarrior said:
As many know I was a fan of extremely high dosages in the past. Going to the extreme and not being the smartest I had a stoke and a pulmonary embolism. I believe at that time I was running 1200mg tren 800mg test 1000mg mast along with clen, t3, t4, 10 iu a day gh.

I’ve been only running 100mg test a week basically since this happened. Now I’m intending to run a small cycle likely 300 test and 300 deca. Will be running with my 677. Looking for advice on maximizing my gains with such small dosages.

Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks.
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Hey bud. Yea that cycle and dose you mentioned will do that to most individuals.

I belive running Test 400-500/week, Deca at 300mg/week and some EQ at 300-400 a week will be good. Not too high to low and still will make good gains. Ive done that in my last cycle. I also threw in some tren at 200mg/week. The EQ was just enough to open my appetite.

I never had a problem with that cycle. No crazy sides at all with any compound. Just needed arimidex at .5 once a week. I didnt need anything for prolactin at all.
 
I think the main thing will be diet. Sorry to hear about the stroke, thanks for posting that up. I think a lot of people don't realize the dangers of running such high doses. I don't know your stats, but think you should be able good results with lower doses.
 
desertwarrior said:
As many know I was a fan of extremely high dosages in the past. Going to the extreme and not being the smartest I had a stoke and a pulmonary embolism. I believe at that time I was running 1200mg tren 800mg test 1000mg mast along with clen, t3, t4, 10 iu a day gh.

I’ve been only running 100mg test a week basically since this happened. Now I’m intending to run a small cycle likely 300 test and 300 deca. Will be running with my 677. Looking for advice on maximizing my gains with such small dosages.

Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks.
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I think you'll have plenty of gains with that....I'm old as dirt and if I go too high my BP skyrockets where even with meds I'd be 140/98....2 summers ago i ran 250test_300tren.... well my work schedule went to shit I was lucky if I could get into the gym twice a week, and I was still dropping fat, growing traps, looked good for almost 50 at the beach. Good luck, watch that BP and fluid retention.
 
I'm not a doctor, but I've seen others with similar health issue run TRT levels of test (100-200 but most likely 125-150), make you aren't taking AI's or SERMs, and if you are feeling lucky low dose EQ or deca.

Are your cardiovascular issues persistent/chronic or was this a one time episode? I don't know much about CV, but if it is a chronic issue I would forget about AAS all together.
 
desertwarrior said:
As many know I was a fan of extremely high dosages in the past. Going to the extreme and not being the smartest I had a stoke and a pulmonary embolism. I believe at that time I was running 1200mg tren 800mg test 1000mg mast along with clen, t3, t4, 10 iu a day gh.

I’ve been only running 100mg test a week basically since this happened. Now I’m intending to run a small cycle likely 300 test and 300 deca. Will be running with my 677. Looking for advice on maximizing my gains with such small dosages.

Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks.
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Deca would be the worst thing to run if you had a stroke it thickens your blood to much. I would run test and primo. 300 test 500 primo for 20 weeks. Keep getting blood test every 6 weeks. Dont even think about eq.
 
@desertwarrior brother I suggest you don't move up on the dosage and keep at 100mg. Introducing excess test will increase your rbc count and as mention @Turbo charged can cause thicken of your blood. Taking blood thinner and bp medication can give you a sense that everything's back to normal. But remember, you survive the 1st round.. there might not be a 2nd! Looking good means jack shit, when you're 6 feet under!
 
desertwarrior said:
As many know I was a fan of extremely high dosages in the past. Going to the extreme and not being the smartest I had a stoke and a pulmonary embolism. I believe at that time I was running 1200mg tren 800mg test 1000mg mast along with clen, t3, t4, 10 iu a day gh.

I’ve been only running 100mg test a week basically since this happened. Now I’m intending to run a small cycle likely 300 test and 300 deca. Will be running with my 677. Looking for advice on maximizing my gains with such small dosages.

Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks.
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Glad you’re still with us man.

now more than ever I’d consider maximizing cardiovascular health and keeping that TRT dose where it is. These recent scares you’ve had are probably a warning to shift your perception of what important.
 
Damn sorry to hear of your terrifying experience and now staying healthy is more paramount after something like that. Have you regained what you lost?

I've had my share of brushes with death myself and also come to appreciate the 2nd chance...make every day count!

Low dose cycles sound interesting...maybe others have had good experiences with these.
 
desertwarrior said:
As many know I was a fan of extremely high dosages in the past. Going to the extreme and not being the smartest I had a stoke and a pulmonary embolism. I believe at that time I was running 1200mg tren 800mg test 1000mg mast along with clen, t3, t4, 10 iu a day gh.

I’ve been only running 100mg test a week basically since this happened. Now I’m intending to run a small cycle likely 300 test and 300 deca. Will be running with my 677. Looking for advice on maximizing my gains with such small dosages.

Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks.
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What was your age?
I’m sure you take blood thinners now?

I do low doses, like test 350, deca 300 and make slow steady gains. These days I’m on trt plus 250 deca and do well. Much relies on diet.. but IMO if i were you, I’d stick with trt and get TT to 800-1000 and enjoy life.
If adding something, I do ipamorelin and cjc and I feel and look decent...
 
Thank you guys all for posting up. Taking everything into consideration.

I’m on blood thinner and bp meds currently. My issues are not chronic. I caught the stomach flu during the heavy cycle I mentioned and couldn’t even get down water for like 11 days. Blood probably as thick as mud I decided to sweat the sickness out. Ended up leaving the gym by ambulance.

I was extremely lucky in recovery. The only lingering problem is some facial asymmetry and paralysis. Labs have all been perfect for months now. However I have lost about 60 lbs. Since I came home from the hospital I’ve only allowed myself light 30 minute workouts and the 100mg test weekly.

I would like to run this small cycle to assess the effectiveness and see how it affects my lab values. I haven’t really decided yet though. Not sure the juice is worth the squeeze at this juncture. I’m 32 and I’d really like to see 50 at least.

I do value every opinion shared. I made the mistake of not listening and being pig headed in the past. I scoffed at quality advice that could have kept me from all this. I won’t be making that mistake again.
 
Regardless of what you end up doing, this was a powerful story and I think everyone here appreciates you sharing it. Lots of warnings about health but people tend not to take them seriously enough.

If you think you are stable a low dose run is something you can try. Really have diet and training nailed first though. I mean...at 4-5x natural levels you should be in solid position so just grind at it and keep getting bloods to monitor.
 
Hopefully PT will help you also regain full motion and strength as well as be able to make a good recovery and regain a good bit of functionality. Make sure you drink plenty of water as well.
 
desertwarrior said:
As many know I was a fan of extremely high dosages in the past. Going to the extreme and not being the smartest I had a stoke and a pulmonary embolism. I believe at that time I was running 1200mg tren 800mg test 1000mg mast along with clen, t3, t4, 10 iu a day gh.

I’ve been only running 100mg test a week basically since this happened. Now I’m intending to run a small cycle likely 300 test and 300 deca. Will be running with my 677. Looking for advice on maximizing my gains with such small dosages.

Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks.
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I have seen my father suffer after a stroke when one side of his body got paralyzed. Be very thankful for your life and stick to trt dose of test only. Deca can have alot of negative effects on nervous and cardiovascular system. There are other things to life too.
Just my humble thoughts.
 
Rivnats said:
I have seen my father suffer after a stroke when one side of his body got paralyzed. Be very thankful for your life and stick to trt dose of test only. Deca can have alot of negative effects on nervous and cardiovascular system. There are other things to life too.
Just my humble thoughts.
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What do you think is the upper limit of TT you think is safe? TT 1000?
 
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