LOW DOSE Tren A/ Test cycle log {with questions}

[kilsong]

First off a few stats.
42 years old
250 lbs
6'4 height
Supplements:
-ConCret Creatine Optimum Amino tabs plus assorted high doses of Multi Vitamins.
Lifting off and on for 20 years.
Last 3 years have been 4 days weekly minimum.
I look like I lift weights---but I don't have 'THAT' look. Does that make sense?
Goals : fat loss and increased muscle. What else is there?

I've been on TRT for about 5 months and this is my first ever cycle.
TRT-200 mg Test Cyp weekly divided into 2 injections// HCG divided into 2 injections// Anastrazole @ one half tab every other day.
HOWEVER--for the last 2 weeks I've upped my Test to 500 mg /week divided into 2 injections.
Recent blood Test} {@200mg work showed TESTOSTERONE FREE TOTAL WITH SHBG :700 and my TOTAL ESTROGENS :87
Not the MOST accurate Estrogen test was given by the lab as it does NOT show my Estradiol (E2..but I will be re-testing next week with a private lab.

Yes. I'm aware of the risks involved with Tren.
Yes I'm aware of how POTENTIALLY dangerous this compound is.
Yes I'm as aware as I could be.
I made the decision for Tren but if the sides become unbearable I will 100% discontinue use ASAP. This is a LOW DOSE of Tren.

Today was my first injection.
Tren A--30 mg. YES...only 30. I will be injecting every other day @ 30mg for the first 4 doses--if all goes well--I may leave it there OR go to 50. If 30 yields anything--I'll leave it there.
Test Cyp-250 mg.

A few questions...

--I understand the Test should be lower than the Tren. But if I'm only on 200mg of Tren A weekly MAXIMUM--should I just keep my original TRT Test Cypionate dose of 200mg/week?
--How much HCG should I be on?
--How much Anastrazole should I be on?
I understand that controlling the E2 levels are the key for normal sexual function. I also understand that Prami or Caber should be used from day 1.
I'm holding off on the Prami for now.
Tren/ Cyp are from BioLogic--only on Meso will I name the lab.

 

[kilsong]

Day 2.
Nothing new to update.
Unless of course you count the psychosomatic effects.
Cause I sure as shit think I feel good.
I know it's not due to the Tren...but hey---I dont care WHAT it is...i'll take it.
Been doing lots and lots of additional reading.
I'm already thinking of bumping this puppy up to 50 EOD.
Not sure how much Test and Anastrazole to add thou.
Since before I started this, my acne is acting up.
More Anastrazole maybe?

 

[kilsong]

Day 3--nothing to add.
Day 4---second injection. Feeling the same. No sides yet.
Still @ 30mg. EOD
So far so good....

 

[cmackdown]

Hey kilsong. I just came off cycle with tren enan, test e, and mast enan. Loved it. Vascularity was through the roof. Bodyfat dropped from 12% to 8%. Weight went up 18 lbs. Test 500mg for wk 1-4, test 750 mg wk 5-10. Tren 400mg wk 1-4, tren 600mg wk 5-10. Mast 200mg wk 1-10. No sides since used long acting esters. Did have a tren cough immediately after pin for about 3 minutes.

 

[cmackdown]

Left off stats. 38 yo start weight 185. Finish weight 203. 6ft. This was on hercs gear from June so don't know if it was underdosed but it felt good. No pip always in butt cheek.

 

[kilsong]

Day 5.
Third injection-Test 250mg// Tren 50mg
Yeah so I bumped the Tren up to 50.
No sides with the possible exception of loss of appetite. Which for me isn't such a bad thing. I dunno if it too is in my head, but I'm just not hungry.
For my Test- I'm staying at around 500mg weekly.
1 pharmacy grade Watson Test Cyp 200 and 1 Biologic 250.
So far so good....

Did have a tren cough immediately after pin for about 3 minutes.

Are you injecting super slow? From what I understand, that's the most important thing. It takes almost a full minute for me to get mine in. All in an effort to avoid that cough.
--I hope to have the same results you had, but that Mast you added isn't in my cycle.
Thanks for posting. ANY and all suggestions welcome!

 

[kilsong]

Day 6--nothing new to report
Day 7--injection 4 of Tren 50. Nothing new to report.
Day 8--nothing new to report/ Pharmacy grade Test cyp 250mg.
Day 9-- injection 5 of Tren 50.
::KA-BOOM !:: Something is working. Either that Tren or the 500mg of test for the last month. Today was biceps and triceps. I've read that you'll know it kicks in when you feel it on a smaller muscle day like biceps and triceps.
Like clockwork...one week in...and something is happening.
Easily one of the best bicep days I've had in quite a long time.
What a pump!
No sides yet other than today when I noticed I was sweating a bit more in the gym.

So far so good.

 

[kilsong]

Day 10--nothing new to report.
Day 11--nothing new to report.
Day 12--nothing new to report.
Day 13--missed Tren and Test injection because I was forced out of town for 2 days.
Back on track 10/19/13: Today Tren A 50// UGL Test Cyp 250.
Sweat like a beast in the gym today. Felt good.
***Effective Monday 10/21/13 Tren goes to 75 EOD.*** Test stays at 500mg/week.
So far so good.....

Again...the Tren and additional Test are from Biologic.
ZERO pip.
Z E R O

 

[kilsong]

Day 14--Spoke too soon.
Slight pip today.
Only slight.

 

[kilsong]

Day 15--75mg Tren A /// 250 mg pharmacy grade Test.
This is day 1 of 75 mg Tren.
So far so good....

 

[kilsong]

Day 16--felt okay in the gym. Not nearly as much sweat.
Day 17--75mg Tren A
Day 18-- nothing new to report.
Day 19--250mg UGL Test Cyp...100mg Tren A...not fooling around with anything less from this point forward.
Day 20--nothing new to report.
Day 21---100mg Tren A.

So almost 3 weeks into this. Noticeable difference in vascularity, esp in forearms. Some days my strength seems improved. The pumps in the gym are nice.
One thing I did notice FOR SURE is my recovery time. No matter how hard I train, I almost feel like I can hit the same muscle the next day.
Now I'm at 100 mg Tren A EOD.
Next week I may switch to 50mg ED to keep it more constant.
However I do see 75 ed in my future.
No negative sides AT ALL to report. No night sweats...no increased aggression...no insomnia.
Erection quality seems about the same---which is good.
I WOULD however like that and the libado to increase to those insane levels I've read about.
So far so good.

 

[kilsong]

Day 22--I really don't think I'm taking enough.
Today I took another 50 mg of Tren A.
I'll be doing 50 ED from now on 350mg total a week.
The gains and fat loss arent coming fast enough judging by everything I've read.
Is even 350 gonna be enough?

 

[kilsong]

I kinda gave up on this log..but didnt give up on the Tren.
Just a quick update...
This is the JUICE OF THE FUCKING GODS.
I'm at about 500mg a week...and I NEVER EVER EVER looked and felt THIS good in my fucking life.
I dropped the test down to my TRT dose of 200mg/week.
World of difference.
The fat is melting off---all with almost Z E R O cardio

 

[fit2beking]

You may have posted and I may have missed it but whos brand of tren A are you running?

 

[kilsong]

I started with Bio---then went to Astro--now Im with PEP.

 

[fit2beking]

I started with Bio---then went to Astro--now Im with PEP.

ok so you are running 200mg of test and 500mg of tren a week? Just curious why did you switch? How would you rate each of their tren?

 

[kilsong]

I did a lot of reading about more tren less test---figured id try it.
Each lab was good...no complaints
PEP is working WELLLLL right now.

 

[WhiteLedgen]

No flaming but why switch brands during cycle ??

I never start a cycle if i not have all the gear i need to start/finish the cycle.. I know many suppliers in my city so to get my hands on some gear is not hard. Just not understand why and how you have the idea to use 3 different Trenbolone brands in the same cycle..

Thanks for posting this log i think its interesting to read and see how things work out for you and others who posting logs..

Keep it up Mr.


Bump !!

 

[kilsong]

My original plan was to make this a LOW DOSE cycle.
A quarter of the way thru it-I changed my mind and went to about 75mg.daily.
When I first saw I was running out- my first supplier was out of stock for about a week or maybe more.
So I HAD to try another lab.
Midway through that I saw PEP was running a sale. I had to buy it because the price was right.
When the product came, I figured I'd give it a shot.