Low E2. Why?

[telewacker]

4th week of my cycle and just did bloods.
Week 1 500mg Test C, 1000IU HCG
Week 2 500mg Test C, 700mg Primo E, 1000IU HCG
Weeks 3&4 250mg Test C, 700mg Primo E, 1000IU HCG, Proviron 50mg ED

Bloods have T at >1500 (I didn't opt to spend the extra for the test that would show T at more than 1500 since I was down to 250mg EW) and Estradiol at 16.1! I'm not taking any AI. Weeks 2 and 3 I had tender nipples indicative of high E. Does Proviron lower E? Only thing I can think of.

 

[JackSmooth]

Typically you want to be on a consistent dose for 5-6 weeks to get an accurate reading. Do you have pre bloods to see where your estrogen was at before?

 

[telewacker]

Typically you want to be on a consistent dose for 5-6 weeks to get an accurate reading. Do you have pre bloods to see where your estrogen was at before?

Yes . T 673, E2 29.4

In the past 500mg Test C EW gave me E2 at over 100 without AI that's why I'm questioning below normal E2 with exogenous T. Since the Proviron is a recent addition I wondered if it has AI properties. I know the Primo doesn't aromatize.

 

[JackSmooth]

Yes . T 673, E2 29.4

In the past 500mg Test C EW gave me E2 at over 100 without AI that's why I'm questioning below normal E2 with exogenous T. Since the Proviron is a recent addition I wondered if it has AI properties. I know the Primo doesn't aromatize.

Proviron can help control e2 but it wouldn’t lower it that much. It’s not something that should be relied on as an ai. Are you sure what you’re taking is what you think it is.

 

[telewacker]

Proviron can help control e2 but it wouldn’t lower it that much. It’s not something that should be relied on as an ai. Are you sure what you’re taking is what you think it is.

I trust my source. My T is over 1500. Probably over 2000. My E2 was 29.4 with T at 673. I have the increase in libido expected with the Proviron. My slower, dense muscle growth and increase in definition is consistent with Primo. My source's Primo was lab tested and is real, dosage correct. I have no reason to doubt any of his products. His reviews are consistently excellent.

Also my platelet count is high, 571. It always is when I cycle. Daily aspirin?

 

[telewacker]

Proviron can help control e2 but it wouldn’t lower it that much. It’s not something that should be relied on as an ai. Are you sure what you’re taking is what you think it is.

OK I had the Proviron lab tested. It tested as 24.1 mg of mesterolone so it's legit. I also after stopping Proviron and increasing my T back to 500 mg EW tested E2 at 60+ and T at 3100 so in my case it would appear that Proviron does actually act as a strong AI. I'm back to 250mg T EW and in a few weeks will do bloods again. I've been consistent with 700mg EW Primo.

 

[Hollywood Harv]

Stupid question but are you injecting the test c bi weekly ?

 

[telewacker]

Stupid question but are you injecting the test c bi weekly ?

Twice weekly. Bi weekly is every other week.

 

[Hollywood Harv]

Sorry ment twice weekly.

 

[Test_Subject]

The obvious answer would be that your primo is actually masteron. That together with the proviron could do what you're saying.

Maybe not, but that's my first suspicion.

 

[master.on]

Is that 1000 IU HCG per week?
If so, it is fake, expired or decomposed
such a high HCG dose usually raised Estro levels.

 

[Evom1]

The obvious answer would be that your primo is actually masteron. That together with the proviron could do what you're saying.

Maybe not, but that's my first suspicion.

Bingo

 

[telewacker]

The obvious answer would be that your primo is actually masteron. That together with the proviron could do what you're saying.

Maybe not, but that's my first suspicion.

 

[telewacker]

No, the Primo has been lab tested. I've done Masteron and the results I'm getting from the Primo are different.

 

[telewacker]

Is that 1000 IU HCG per week?
If so, it is fake, expired or decomposed
such a high HCG dose usually raised Estro levels.

Nah. It's legit. Known brand. Full balls.

 

[telewacker]

I just think I'm responding in an unusual way. Individual responses vary and I have to conclude that I'm on the fringe here as none of the above mentioned possibilities are legitimate.

 

[Ophydian]

I just think I'm responding in an unusual way. Individual responses vary and I have to conclude that I'm on the fringe here as none of the above mentioned possibilities are legitimate.

Only other explanation is something went wrong with your test results. How was the Primo tested?

This isn’t your first cycle so I assume that your E2 went up during your other cycles so the only thing to look at is what is different this time from the rest. Process of elimination.

 

[telewacker]

Only other explanation is something went wrong with your test results. How was the Primo tested?

Independent lab tests. My supplier encourages and pays for the test if the customer actually contacts the lab and sets up the test and receives the results. That's how I got the Proviron tested. So I know his Primo is legit and I'm seeing the classic Primo results in my physique.
Maybe my lab results were off but I've had dozens of blood tests by them and never any reason to doubt the results. Plus I had low E symptoms which for me is dry skin, hair, and feeling ghosted and ungrounded.

 

[Heavy Iron]

These are bloods from 700mg test e p/w EQ at 750mg p/w. I'm on 900mg test now. I have never needed an AI. The only thing I added was zphc dbol to that cycle next thing you know I felt like SHIT. Completely crashed E2. I never figured it out. The only thing was the dbol had a batch number that was known to be fucked.

 

[telewacker]

These are bloods from 700mg test e p/w EQ at 750mg p/w. I'm on 900mg test now. I have never needed an AI. The only thing I added was zphc dbol to that cycle next thing you know I felt like SHIT. Completely crashed E2. I never figured it out. The only thing was the dbol had a batch number that was known to be fucked.
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My first cycle of 500mg T I crashed my E trying to find the right AI dose. Apparently I'm very sensitive to A Is. Anyway I felt like shit. Like an anxious depressed ghost. On the other hand I feel great with my E at 60 or more. I take a little Aromasin when my nipples get tender and that seems to work well for me.