Mast questions

[Inquiring Mind]

I am actually just starting my first Run with Mast. Keep in mind I am on trt so I basically run 200 mg of test per week year round---- moving up to 400 test/400 mast per week and 50 mg anavar daily--- will do this 8-10 weeks... I am lucky that my body responds very well so Ido not need the higher doeses... I am also 47 so I am always weighing the risks so I do not push my luck.

Don’t know what your stats are, but generally speaking, not bad at all. However, test at 400. It very significant. That first time running a Test blast is an amazing feeling, so I wouldn’t tease myself with just 400mg...In retrospect, 600T/600M will be amazing. The Var would be a nice added if you have to have it.

 

[Rigger622]

Hey, not trying to be a dick...but I’m not sure if I’m follow correctly, but your first sentence appears to suggest that anyone would actually run Mast alone and no other drug..is that what your saying? If so. I suppose that’s is possible, but why on earth would any one do that?
Any exogenous AAS will shut down your naturally Test production for that matter. Nothing unique about Mast in that regard.

By all means be a dick to @EcpertRealistic , he is a waste of skin.

 

[MFMC]

Don’t know what your stats are, but generally speaking, not bad at all. However, test at 400. It very significant. That first time running a Test blast is an amazing feeling, so I wouldn’t tease myself with just 400mg...In retrospect, 600T/600M will be amazing. The Var would be a nice added if you have to have it.

I have done higher just never with mast-- but I like the way you think-- I think I will do a little jump up to 600 and 600 I have the Var as well so might as well use it. Thanks for the input.

 

[Inquiring Mind]

I have done higher just never with mast-- but I like the way you think-- I think I will do a little jump up to 600 and 600 I have the Var as well so might as well use it. Thanks for the input.

All good my man...regarding the Var, in light of the fact that you intend to do a 8-10 week blast...you know to keep Var no more that 6 weeks as a general rule of thumb. With that said, and you probably already know, most people run orals at the beginning as a “kick start” but your running a TRT so you’re not “off”. Anyway, what I’m getting at is to recommend that you save the Var for the last 6 weeks of your cycle. That way you get a chance to “feel” and realize and enjoy the Mast. As you continue and begin to incorporate the Var you will again get a chance to feel, realize and enjoy it as well.
When you run everything all at once and all for the first time, you cannot truly appreciate what is doing what. This way, you get to expatriate each compound respectively.

Question, what eaters are you using Prop or Longer?

 

[Docd187123]

If I recall correctly, your coming from a power lifter’s perspective? I’m making an assumption, as I don’t know for a fact, that PL may employ higher dose regiment by virtu of their preferred sport, as opposed to BB whole are typically concerned with the aesthetic end result.

You're correct but I believe bodybuilders tend to use higher doses than powerlifters do.

 

[MFMC]

All good my man...regarding the Var, in light of the fact that you intend to do a 8-10 week blast...you know to keep Var no more that 6 weeks as a general rule of thumb. With that said, and you probably already know, most people run orals at the beginning as a “kick start” but your running a TRT so you’re not “off”. Anyway, what I’m getting at is to recommend that you save the Var for the last 6 weeks of your cycle. That way you get a chance to “feel” and realize and enjoy the Mast. As you continue and begin to incorporate the Var you will again get a chance to feel, realize and enjoy it as well.
When you run everything all at once and all for the first time, you cannot truly appreciate what is doing what. This way, you get to expatriate each compound respectively.

Question, what eaters are you using Prop or Longer?

MAST E and Test C---- I try to avoid numerous shots per week.

 

[Inquiring Mind]

MAST E and Test C---- I try to avoid numerous shots per week.

Then I would try my hardest to go no less than the 10 weeks. Remember, it will take roughly 2 weeks for the Mast E to build up..you already have Test in your system, so that part is good.

Do you have any Mast P in hand? Because you could runt both Mast P and E together..for say 2 weeks. For instance Mast P at 200mg EOD along with the 600 Mast E. In 2 weeks drop the Mast P as the E would be up to speed.

Hopefully someone esle with most complex cycle experience can chime in, but this is how I started my current blast. Good luck bro.

 

[MFMC]

Then I would try my hardest to go no less than the 10 weeks. Remember, it will take roughly 2 weeks for the Mast E to build up..you already have Test in your system, so that part is good.

Do you have any Mast P in hand? Because you could runt both Mast P and E together..for say 2 weeks. For instance Mast P at 200mg EOD along with the 600 Mast E. In 2 weeks drop the Mast P as the E would be up to speed.

Hopefully someone esle with most complex cycle experience can chime in, but this is how I started my current blast. Good luck bro.

No Mast P--- I might push for 12 weeks then--- then back down to trt--- I will save the Var for last 6 weeks too... I was actually gonna do the opposite and load it up front... I just wanna be a bad ass some day. Thanks for the advice.

 

[Inquiring Mind]

No Mast P--- I might push for 12 weeks then--- then back down to trt--- I will save the Var for last 6 weeks too... I was actually gonna do the opposite and load it up front... I just wanna be a bad ass some day. Thanks for the advice.

If you never done a 12–16 week, it can burn you out or hit a plateau...so again, the Var can come in super handy in such instances. I really like the concept of orals on the back end of a cycle.

Anytime man..post a cycle log of your progress if you can.

Peace bro.

 

[tenpoundsleft]

Hey, not trying to be a dick...but I’m not sure if I’m follow correctly, but your first sentence appears to suggest that anyone would actually run Mast alone and no other drug..is that what your saying? If so. I suppose that’s is possible, but why on earth would any one do that?
Any exogenous AAS will shut down your naturally Test production for that matter. Nothing unique about Mast in that regard.

I'm not normally jumping to Ecperts defense, but if you really read what he wrote, you'll see he's correct. It's just a little convoluted from a syntax pov.

He's not saying to run only Mast, just what will happen if you do.

 

[Inquiring Mind]

I'm not normally jumping to Ecperts defense, but if you really read what he wrote, you'll see he's correct. It's just a little convoluted from a syntax pov.

He's not saying to run only Mast, just what will happen if you do.

It’s cool... but I read what he wrote several times back to myself, tried to understand his thinking from his sentence structure... was t clear, therefore I asked him directly what he meant, even preferences that I was “not trying to be to Be a dick”.

 

[OldFatAndSlow]

I had also thought about semi front loading or kicking off this cycle with sust.

1-5 dbol@50
1-5 sust@600
5-14 testE@600
1-14 mastE@400

 

[OldFatAndSlow]

Or just stick with the E and let the Dbol do its thing...

 

[master.on]

getting ready to kick off again. Finished a Tbol/testC cycle a few months ago(may), which was my first cycle in quite some time. Prior use was 10 or so years ago, stretching some 5 years prior to that.
I’m looking at adding mast to my next cycle for the anti E properties and the reported overall well being effect it seems to have. On top of that I’ve never tried it and I’d like to. I’ve never talked with too many that have used mast though personally. I was looking at running somewhere around:

Dbol
5wks
400/600
testE/mastE
14 wks

Discuss...

The only time mast will lower your estrogen is if you run it by itself because it will lower your Natural test production. If you on trt the E2 lowering effect of mast is minimal at best. And if you running anything above trt dosages or running a high aromatizing compound the effects on estrogen are close to non existent.

While mast definitely helps hardening you up
don't rely on it as the sole anti estrogen
you may get a gyno surprise.

 

[OldFatAndSlow]

I keep extra nova and adex on hand, but I’m fairly gyno resistant.

 

[Bohns]

Do it!!! I'll never ever run without mast again. But as @ChestRockwell informed I would add prostate to your mid cycle bloods. Only oral I can tolerate is anavar so I don't do orals. All ugl var I ran compared to pharm has been a waste. The mast will make you nice and hard

Why do u think all ugl var is a waste? Can they just not get it right, or is it just severely under dosed? Glad I read this... Was really looking forward to trying some ugl var... Shitty!

 

[tenpoundsleft]

Why do u think all ugl var is a waste? Can they just not get it right, or is it just severely under dosed? Glad I read this... Was really looking forward to trying some ugl var... Shitty!

He's full of bitter experiences, or some brown stuff.

Nothing wrong with Alpha-Pharma anavar

 

[legendary]

Why do u think all ugl var is a waste? Can they just not get it right, or is it just severely under dosed? Glad I read this... Was really looking forward to trying some ugl var... Shitty!

Once I had pharm nothing came close. Pretty sure it's most faked and under dosed drug.

 

[Bohns]

Once I had pharm nothing came close. Pretty sure it's most faked and under dosed drug.

Good to know man! Appreciate it.. Was just going to start on a test-c /armidex cycle as it's been almost 10 years since I've used... But at this point I feel my natural test going by the wayside! Getting older is a bitch..

 

[Bohns]

He's full of bitter experiences, or some brown stuff.

Nothing wrong with Alpha-Pharma anavar

Thanks for the insight but I'm going to be pretty relegated to a Canadian ugl when I go for it.. Jesus man u got good results for a 50yr old.. That's pretty insane... I'm pushing the 4-0 and not feeling the drive I once had despite my diet /supps/rest being pretty dialed..

Was thinking of starting off on a 200mg/wk test-c with armidex for a 12-16 weeker... Hope I can make some decent gains just on that for starters..