accidentaljedi173
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I've been curious about hgh and npp lately. I might try npp when I start bulking again. I'm undecided still. Tren is something idk if I'll ever do honestly.
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Masteron with trt
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lukiss96
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I was wary of tren's sides, so I delayed it a bit few years in to my bnc journey. Honestly I never experienced any of the horror stories, only the first time when I was aggressively cutting and I felt hypo, tired and angry af. To my surprise I was lifting really heavy numbers in the gym.
Second time with tren hex was awesome, I was eating maintenance and some days over as expected strength skyrocketed.
Third time was ace time, it was overall fine, I liked the effect again. Ed injections.
Edit: forgot to mention first time was tren E.
accidentaljedi173
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I've been looking into tren hex a bit. Seems to be the "safer" option when it comes to sides. If you had to choose one to a first time tren user which would you ultimately recommend? I wanted to start with npp to see if a 19-nor is even an option in any of my stacks.
lukiss96
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19nors nandrolone and tren, but they're nothing alike. Response possibly will be different.
I would choose acetate, because like everyone says if sides are bad enough you can bail quick. Same with npp over deca, I would do that now.
accidentaljedi173
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I'll prolly grab some npp my next purchase, tren just worries me still lol
trendbolwinstrol
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when you are with a lady and your dick is like 30-40% hard that would worry me much more. tren usually shocks your body for 3-4 weeks then your body just gets used to it. i sleep just fine now other then getting up 1-2 per night to piss.
lukiss96
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Everyone is different no issues on tren for me as long as I'm fed enough, but also not some magic as others describe, yes mg for mg it's potent and provides lots of aggression and strength.
accidentaljedi173
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Are you saying npp will ruin my boners? I'm kinda split between trying npp, tren, or primo.
trendbolwinstrol
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primo made me feel weird and like shit. never use again. never used npp but used deca... i wasnt soft but not fully hard like 60-70. tren makes everything perfect for me. just harder to sleep first few weeks. but i sleep like shit anyway
lukiss96
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Not a guarantee, nothing is. I find I need to control estrogen very well on nand, if not then female sides happen if you know what I mean. Moody, bitchy, puffy, want sweet things to eat and mood swings like pms. So, I know to not touch it, but if I do I have to be 100% on my estrogen control, unlike test were I can let it climb higher than ideal.
nightprowler7
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I went hypno a lot on tren. Idk why
I don't use it anymore but I always wondered why that happened
Musmadar
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Let's get back to Masteron....I'm interested...
Kdubswoldgier
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What are your goals?
What are your stats?
If have a year long plan could always run 1:1 250/250 for a bit, then try high test low mast, then try low test high mast. Do a log... Ill check it out.
I haven't ran mast in a while and going on week 3 of 125 test / 150 mast daily and feel good and have noticed I maintain muscle even if not eating strong. Do I look better than 250 test / 350 npp? I was more full on the latter but now I know I don't have any fat and water on my arms or chest (never had a lower chest so working on it). Also no sides as of now (had gyno paranoia so good to not take anti e or serms daily)
Best of luck bud... Food is more important but having some kind of plan and ideas on how to adapt are always good.
What are your stats?
If have a year long plan could always run 1:1 250/250 for a bit, then try high test low mast, then try low test high mast. Do a log... Ill check it out.
I haven't ran mast in a while and going on week 3 of 125 test / 150 mast daily and feel good and have noticed I maintain muscle even if not eating strong. Do I look better than 250 test / 350 npp? I was more full on the latter but now I know I don't have any fat and water on my arms or chest (never had a lower chest so working on it). Also no sides as of now (had gyno paranoia so good to not take anti e or serms daily)
Best of luck bud... Food is more important but having some kind of plan and ideas on how to adapt are always good.
Lower dosages if you're considering "long term", in my opinion, but that's also dependent on goals, etc. I typically sit around 150mg Test + 75mg Mast 99% of the time as of late, which feels perfectly fine for **TRT+**.
accidentaljedi173
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Masteron is officially my favorite compound right now
accidentaljedi173
Member
Haven't thought about a log maybe I'll start one later and update as I proceed, for my endless log of first time experiences in my aas journey.
Unless you have issues with hair loss you can't go wrong with mast. Unless you're one of those who get mental sides from certain compounds. I've only every had mental sides from tren a at 350 and over. I was dating the first time using tren and the Jealousy reminded me of when I was in a teenage relationship.
Mast is my new base compound right there with test. You can run it pretty high since it's so mild. I've had zero issues with 1g mast p and 700mg test. It's as if they we made for each other. I can't believe I've gone this long without using mast.
I fell into the trap where everyone was saying mast only works if you're under 15% bodyfat or even leaner. Bull shit!
I feel amazing on mast. Zero test sides (12.5mg aromasin eod). I don't bloat anymore. Even can run 700mg npp without issue. 100mg test p, 100mg mast p, 100mg npp, daily injections along side 12.5mg aromasin eod...Zero issues. Labs are awesome, bp is below or at 130/80. Also dropped the npp last cycle and ran 30mg daily of tren a. Just made falling asleep a little more difficult...that's it!
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Musmadar
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I am just starting Test E, Mast E, Igf-1lr3, Tirz...hoping to get AllinOne combination.
I refuse to take ozempic or tirz. I need to be able to eat. I'm currently on a cut. Went from 3700-4000 calories down to 2500 (230g protein). If you have the mindset you don't need ozempic or tirz.
I'm only slightly hungry at night after all my meals are down. This has been easy to deal with.
One cheat meal every Friday night. I eat up to 400g carbs for my cheat. It helps keep me sane and something to look forward to. So far in 2 wks I've gone from 253lbs to 243lbs.
Cheat meal also helps allow those glycogen levels to reup.
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Musmadar
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The effect of cutting the appetite is not that strong with Tirzepatide...at least nor for me...I like the fact that it helps me with keeping body fat in range, it has something to do with how it raises the insulin sensitivity...
