Maven's 2 on 2 off Cycle Log

[Maven3]

Ive wanted to try this type of cycle for a long time. Ive read up on it as much as I can and I like the theory behind it. Some of these include; fast recovery, slower but more maintainable gains, no massive increases in weight, less fluctuations in mood ie depression coming off a long cycle, losing gains during pct.

Im also an athlete and compete professionally so these types of cycle appeal to me, allowing a rapid increase in strength and recovery, while still being able to train hard while off.

Im a bit late starting this log now, but I wanted to write it down since there arent very many logs covering this type of cycle.

I have done 2 previous cycles. 1st was a standard 12 week Test E with dbol kickstart and anavar finisher. Second cycle was a 6 week Test prop cycle starting at 50mg ED then going up to 100mg ED with 50mg dbol and 50mg Anavar. At the end of the second cycle I maxed out at 176 pounds weight benching over 300 pounds for reps

I have already finished my first 2 week cycle which was 100mg Test P ED, 40mg Dbol ED and Winny 20mg ED. The winny was originally going to be run at 40mg ED but it was my first time using it so I went lower to evaluate the effects.

Results:

Weight went from 161 pounds to 172 pounds. After 2 week pct dropped to 167 pounds.

Strength: Bench went from 220 pounds x 4 to 220 x 8. After 2 week PCT I have kept the strength increase.

So its a good increase overall, nothing crazy but decent gains for a 2 week cycle. Mood, energy all good during PCT, really nice to have such an easy recovery, feels like nothing to be honest.

 

[Maven3]

Im now on day 2 of my second cycle. This cycle is 100mg Tren A ED and 40mg Test P. No orals this time as I want to give my liver a break, and I can add them in for the final 2 week cycle.

This is also my first time using Tren A and 100mg ED seems a bit high to jump in but its necessary for such a short cycle.

Too early to tell the effects but on day 2 I feel pretty amazing, just in a really good mood and lots of energy. Probably need at least 4-5 days to really kick in so hopefully Im a good responder and dont get too many sides. At only 2 weeks though, I dont think Ill have any issues.

One thing I love so far about Tren A is no pip! I mix the 40mg Test P in together and the first 2 injects went smooth and no pip at all. Which is really nice after doing 100mg Prop ED in my last 2 cycles.

Will update again in a few days.

 

[insertnamehere]

Glad to see you went with 100mg/ed on the tren. Its a good starting point for what you're trying to do.

I'm interested to see how this plays out. Have a good run.

 

[Maven3]

Day 4 and 4th inject. Results are slow so far this cycle. Hunger is up and eating loads but no weight gain. No noticeable strength gain as of yet. Im attributing the lack of quick gains to the lack of an oral this time around. Last cycle I had 40mg dbol and 20mg winny and the results pretty much kicked in from day 1.

I really hope the tren a kicks in soon. Thought I would feel it by now for sure at 100mg ed.

Also no sides from tren so far except Im feeling lethargic which seems to be the complete opposite of most people. I slept 10 hours last night and still had to force myself to get out of bed.

 

[Maven3]

Ok so Ive completely neglected this log. A lot happened and changed and I was figuring out what I wanted to do with this cycle so I havent been posting.

First I had problems running high tren low test. Felt like shit after a few days, tried to tough it out but it just wasnt working, motivation was so low, felt tired and achy all day. Changed to higher test lower tren and felt almost immediate improvement. Still dont feel as awesome as I normally do on prop alone but I feel good enough to work out hard and get through my day. So right now Im running 100 mg prop with 50mg Tren A.

I also have changed my cycle from a 2 week blast to a longer but still short cycle of either 4 weeks or 6 weeks depending on results and how I feel.

The reason for this is I did not feel the Tren kick in until the start of week 3. I had NO strength gains for week 1 and 2 which was very disappointing. Then all of sudden in week 3 I had a big jump in strength. Ive also noticed that Ive gained weight but somehow look a little leaner and definitely more vascular. So its seems for me, tren a is not a worthwhile compound for a 2 weeker as the benefits only seem to kick in at the end of 2weeks.

With that in mind I have extended the cycle to a minimum of 4 weeks and possibly will go to 6 depending on results. I still want to have a good quick recovery, and I believe at only 4 weeks I can bounce back pretty quick. At 6 weeks Im not so sure.

So Im a bit disappointed I wont get to finish my 3 x 2 week cycle plan but I believe I will get some good results from this cycle.

In retrospect I believe it is 100% necessary to have a high dose oral as part of the 2 weeker for it to make sense. If I was to go again I would run 150mg Prop ED and something like 50mg dbol with 50 mg Anavar or winny.

 

[Drogan]

You haven't done front loading? I understand it's a must for a 2-weeker when you skip orals.
I'm also starting experimenting with this type of cycles.

 

[Maven3]

You haven't done front loading? I understand it's a must for a 2-weeker when you skip orals.
I'm also starting experimenting with this type of cycles.

I should have frontloaded and perhaps it would have made some difference. Ive made some very nice gains in week 3 with the test/tren combo. I will see where I am at the end of week 4 and decide if I will finish the cycle or keep going to 6 weeks.

The only thing I dont like about this cycle is Im lacking in motivation and still slightly lethargic which I attribute to the tren.

I may revisit the 2 week protocol. If I do I will make sure to frontload 300mg prop on day 1, and dose it at 150mg ED for the remaining 2 weeks. Id also go very high on the orals. Perhaps even a dbol/anadrol mix.

I had no problem ending the first 2 weeker on time because the results were good. However on this 2nd run with just test/tren the results were just not good enough to stop at 2 weeks and it would have been a waste.