Maximum Primo E dosing

[Clamslaps]

So this is my first go around with primo, I want to run 800mg a week so planning on dosing 400mg/ml.

Is there any crazy pip or crashing I should worry about with primo? I've dosed about everything that high without issues, but don't want to risk fucking up my fancy luxury man's gear.

 

[TRT@40]

So this is my first go around with primo, I want to run 800mg a week so planning on dosing 400mg/ml.

Is there any crazy pip or crashing I should worry about with primo? I've dosed about everything that high without issues, but don't want to risk fucking up my fancy luxury man's gear.

I have never seen anything higher than 300mg/ml and most stick to about 200mg/ml as a max. I brewed it at 220mg/ml and had a little pip to it but nothing crazy.
If you are set on high concentration, I would recommend a small test brew.

what have you already brewed at 400mg/ml without issues? Deca, test enan, eq if I have to guess

 

[Clamslaps]

I have never seen anything higher than 300mg/ml and most stick to about 200mg/ml as a max. I brewed it at 220mg/ml and had a little pip to it but nothing crazy.
If you are set on high concentration, I would recommend a small test brew.

what have you already brewed at 400mg/ml without issues? Deca, test enan, eq if I have to guess

Tren, test, deca, eq, mast... I went through a phase. High BB and MCT oil and I've never had issues.

 

[TRT@40]

Tren, test, deca, eq, mast... I went through a phase. High BB and MCT oil and I've never had issues.

Bro science says too much BB is not healthy; I need to research into this.

But if you are doubling up the concentration of a compound from 200mg/ml to 400mg/ml for example and using upto 40% BB compared to 20% BB for 200mg/ml. In both cases it is still same amount of BB ml per mg of compound. But with lower concentration of 200mg/ml, there is roughly 2X the carrier oil per BB in terms of ml, if that helps to lessen the sides of BB.

Let us know how you brew the primo e and how it goes.

@Iron Vett, @Villain , what are your thoughts on sides of high BB per ml of carrier oil?

 

[Villain]

Bro science says too much BB is not healthy; I need to research into this.

But if you are doubling up the concentration of a compound from 200mg/ml to 400mg/ml for example and using upto 40% BB compared to 20% BB for 200mg/ml. In both cases it is still same amount of BB ml per mg of compound. But with lower concentration of 200mg/ml, there is roughly 2X the carrier oil per BB in terms of ml, if that helps to lessen the sides of BB.

Let us know how you brew the primo e and how it goes.

@Iron Vett, @Villain , what are your thoughts on sides of high BB per ml of carrier oil?

High BB is what’s going to cause the pip. Less solvents = less pip. I would never recommend EO based on things I’ve read and Primo can be held at 200 with 20% BB and 1.5% BA in MCT.
I would NEVER attempt Primo at 400 and believe at 40% BB the pip will be crippling.

 

[Clamslaps]

High BB is what’s going to cause the pip. Less solvents = less pip. I would never recommend EO based on things I’ve read and Primo can be held at 200 with 20% BB and 1.5% BA in MCT.
I would NEVER attempt Primo at 400 and believe at 40% BB the pip will be crippling.

Bro science says too much BB is not healthy; I need to research into this.

But if you are doubling up the concentration of a compound from 200mg/ml to 400mg/ml for example and using upto 40% BB compared to 20% BB for 200mg/ml. In both cases it is still same amount of BB ml per mg of compound. But with lower concentration of 200mg/ml, there is roughly 2X the carrier oil per BB in terms of ml, if that helps to lessen the sides of BB.

Let us know how you brew the primo e and how it goes.

@Iron Vett, @Villain , what are your thoughts on sides of high BB per ml of carrier oil?

Highest I've ever gone on BB was 20%, jesus 40% sounds like it's gonna make my bones smell for years.

 

[pharmasource]

what are your thoughts on sides of high BB per ml of carrier oil?

200mg primo in 20% BB holds with no problem, think 250mg should too, but 250 is a limit what have sense for me.

I tried 400mg primo one time, BB+EO . Give me a swelling, think because of bad absorption in this concentration.

 

[Iron Vett]

Bro science says too much BB is not healthy; I need to research into this.

But if you are doubling up the concentration of a compound from 200mg/ml to 400mg/ml for example and using upto 40% BB compared to 20% BB for 200mg/ml. In both cases it is still same amount of BB ml per mg of compound. But with lower concentration of 200mg/ml, there is roughly 2X the carrier oil per BB in terms of ml, if that helps to lessen the sides of BB.

Let us know how you brew the primo e and how it goes.

@Iron Vett, @Villain , what are your thoughts on sides of high BB per ml of carrier oil?

I’m afraid primo at 400mg/ml is going to have crippling pip no matter what percentage of BB is used. Primo at 200mg/ml with 22% BB is a good recipe as it seems to hold well in cooler environments and won’t cause pip for most people. 40% BB is used in most of the TNE recipes with anywhere from 5-10% GU. I believe most of the burning and knotting up caused by those TNE injections are from the high percentage of BB needed to keep it in solution.

 

[Villain]

I’m afraid primo at 400mg/ml is going to have crippling pip no matter what percentage of BB is used. Primo at 200mg/ml with 22% BB is a good recipe as it seems to hold well in cooler environments and won’t cause pip for most people. 40% BB is used in most of the TNE recipes with anywhere from 5-10% GU. I believe most of the burning and knotting up caused by those TNE injections are from the high percentage of BB needed to keep it in solution.

I would presume even using EO wouldn’t help the pip at that concentration?

 

[Iron Vett]

I would presume even using EO wouldn’t help the pip at that concentration?

Ive never even attempted to brew primo e at 400 mg/ml but in my opinion, EO probably wouldn’t make much of a difference in pip for primo dosed that high

 

[TRT@40]

Primo e that I brewed at 220mg/ml was made with mig840/eo/guac=50/50/3. And it has a little pip; I would rate it 1 out 10.
I recall someone posted in brew porn that they made it at 300mg/ml and it had noticable.

 

[Villain]

Primo e that I brewed at 220mg/ml was made with mig840/eo/guac=50/50/3. And it has a little pip; I would rate it 1 out 10.
I recall someone posted in brew porn that they made it at 300mg/ml and it had noticable.

You think the guac was even necessary?

 

[FR0Z3N_B0MB3RRR]

Fuck I wont touch EVER again guaiacol... i ll brew my primo at 100mg ml 1%ba 20%bb with MCT... i pin my gluteus ED with 2.5ml oil since 5 weeks and didn have a single problem... all the gears are brewed by me with mct and 1% 20% ... still don’t understand this fear of inject oil often and that love for shitty toxic repugnant guaiacol and overconcentrate gear that leads to crippling..
Gluteus has a big space to pin it... so i can rotate the squares every time avoiding any sort of pain / issue

 

[TRT@40]

You think the guac was even necessary?

I can say now that I am pretty sure it was not necessary at all. But when I brewed primo, i was new to the hobby. And I had heard lots of pip stories. I knew that my body tolerates GUAC so i threw it in the mix to help reduce the pip.
My new primo brew will be without GUAC and most likely 100% MCT.

 

[CApump]

You think the guac was even necessary?

Unnecessary. 18.5% BB, 1.5% BA in MCT holds primo fine at 200 mg/ml with a 5% od.

edit: and pip for me personally is very minimal

 

[Villain]

Unnecessary. 18.5% BB, 1.5% BA holds primo fine at 200 mg/ml with a 5% od.

18.5 is even less than the recipe I’ve seen. Is the C/O MCT?

 

[CApump]

18.5 is even less than the recipe I’ve seen. Is the C/O MCT?

sorry yes, now brand MCT, edited original post

 

[Test_Subject]

So this is my first go around with primo, I want to run 800mg a week so planning on dosing 400mg/ml.

Is there any crazy pip or crashing I should worry about with primo? I've dosed about everything that high without issues, but don't want to risk fucking up my fancy luxury man's gear.

Rather than messing around with high concentration primo and all sorts of crazy solvents, might I suggest brewing it at 200mg/ml and just doing an extra pin or two every week?

To me, it makes a lot more sense to do an extra one or two shots rather than end up with a potentially crippling solution that you can't use or end up having to dilute anyway.

Just a thought.

 

[pharmasource]

200mg Primo = NO GUA needed.

250mg Primo 25% BB, 25% EO = hold

 

[CompoundLifts31]

So this is my first go around with primo, I want to run 800mg a week so planning on dosing 400mg/ml.

Is there any crazy pip or crashing I should worry about with primo? I've dosed about everything that high without issues, but don't want to risk fucking up my fancy luxury man's gear.

Let me know if it holds.
How much more than 2% are you using?