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Maybe those cheaper fish oils don't contain toxins

If someone wants to get into this topic further, we need to look at how this group tested the samples. Did they test for ALL forms of PCB's (there are many), for instance. And what were the sensitivities of their testing equipment?

Unless a product has been assayed properly, and can provide proof of same, I'd stay away from the cheaper brands. I wish this were not true, but is my professional advice at this time.
 
I take a ton of fish oils a day.... i usually take now's fish oils .... what brand would u guys reccomend.........
 
I don't trust any of the Fish Oils hell they now say Tuna is not safe to eat. I read at Dr. Weil's site that Flax Seed Oil is best. I have been using this for some time.
http://www.myvitanet.com/clinnutflaxo.html
I try to use PhytoPharmica to me they are the best.
Phil
 
SWALE said:
Did they test for ALL forms of PCB's (there are many), for instance.
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You mean there could be PCB's in my fish oil? What the heck are printed circuit boards doing in my fish oil anyway??? :D <ducking, running away> :D
 
I take Dr. Sears Omega RX fish oils. Within 5 days of starting, my strength and overall feeling throughout the day was better. I believe that they are pricy, but I get mine free.
 
earthdog said:
You mean there could be PCB's in my fish oil? What the heck are printed circuit boards doing in my fish oil anyway??? :D <ducking, running away> :D
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LMAO bro...LMAO!!!!

I do believe there's an organization that regulates? the amount of toxins that are supposed to be in fish. Something like that. Hell, let me go look at my bottle. *sounds of walking and fridge door opening. Cuss word cause a bottle of ketchup fell out of the door. fridge closes and more walking*

Ah, ok. Here we go. They're not a regulatory agency...they set standards for testing protocols. AOAC International. http://www.aoac.org They're actually a bunch of nerds (read scientists) who are "dedicated to analytical excellence" as per their website. Basically, their protocols are the creme de la creme. None more sensitive etc etc.

So, from what I know if you want to be sure your lab is doing it right make sure they're using the AOAC protocols. Your squeezed fish liver juice bottle should say it on the back if they tested it using those.
 
What're you guys deleting all these posts for?

Dr. Weil is mistaken if he is saying flax is superior to fish oil. You need long-chain omega-3's, NOT the short-chain that flax provides.

On another note, Dr. Weil is a really nice guy. He invited me to have dinner with him in Vegas a year ago. I would have liked to, but had a previous commitment. And what goes on in Vegas...
 
SWALE said:
On another note, Dr. Weil is a really nice guy. He invited me to have dinner with him in Vegas a year ago. I would have liked to, but had a previous commitment. And what goes on in Vegas...
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I would like to have been a fly on the wall listening to the conversation over THAT dinner. He's supposed to be pretty anti-HRT - one of the "aging is a perfectly natural phenomenon" crowd.
 
SWALE said:
What're you guys deleting all these posts for?

Dr. Weil is mistaken if he is saying flax is superior to fish oil. You need long-chain omega-3's, NOT the short-chain that flax provides.

On another note, Dr. Weil is a really nice guy. He invited me to have dinner with him in Vegas a year ago. I would have liked to, but had a previous commitment. And what goes on in Vegas...
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Good picture you look better. I have read all of his books he is a great person. I have looked back into this and he did say flax seed oil but now he has changed his mind and it saying the same thing you are. I read about this in his first book. So how long has this been out the Long-chain omega-3's.
In his book he talked about the beef cattle greasing in the fields in the old days. The meat was full of Omega-3's but today they are corn fed and this is how we became Omega-3 deficient. We no longer get it in are meat that we eat. So now what is the best brand to get and how much do you need to take.
Phil
 
I think Carlson'e is the best stuff at the best price. I carry it in my office for those guys who want to buy it at a substantial discount.

Aren't there a couple of author-deleted posts in this thread?

I "look better" than WHAT in that picture?

cpeil--Is that true? I have not heard that. He's now being heavily featured by Primedia (the OTHER Anti-Aging Medicine organization).
 
Yeah, I've seen him on TV. Of course, he's a big advocate of lifestyle changes, and he's ok w/ bioidentical estrogen replacement to control menopausal symptoms, but otherwise he doesn't believe in hormone replacement. He's nice about it, but definitely critical.
 
SWALE said:
I think Carlson'e is the best stuff at the best price. I carry it in my office for those guys who want to buy it at a substantial discount.

Aren't there a couple of author-deleted posts in this thread?

I "look better" than WHAT in that picture?

cpeil--Is that true? I have not heard that. He's now being heavily featured by Primedia (the OTHER Anti-Aging Medicine organization).
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Then Dr. Weil.
Phil
 
I am particulary thankful, however, I did not break the camera.

Defintiely lifestyle changes are number one and number two on the list. Hormonal optimization, although it is what actually seems to bring guys into the clinic, is a distant third.

Does anyone know if Dr. Weil STILL is against TRT?
 
No the last thing I read was he felt that if you truly have Hypogonadism then you need treatment he is against men going on it to stay younger. Or should I say older men that are not suffering from Hypogonadism.

I started on the Fish Oil from Costco's the tables are 850 mg. with a EPA=240 and DHA=200 180 tablets for $11.55. The tablets are Enteric Coated and I get no upset stomach no bad taste and no reflux. My Dr. said to take 3 grams a day. I am taking 2 tablets 3 times a day is this to much.
Phil
 
That isn't too much fish oil. IIRC, SWALE takes in 10g/day. However, SWALE isn't convinced that the store brand is toxin-free. I have been using the store brand thus far and, to be perfectly honest, I will probably continue to do so in the future.

I also purchase enteric coated tablets. I believe that the coating supposddly doesn't break down until the pill reached the intestine. Hopefully enteric coated gives the same benefits as non-enteric coated.
 
Since everyone was looking for a good fish oil at a cheap price i thought i would add this in..........

Now's Super EPA Double Strength - 120 Softgels serving size 2 caps
Eicosapentaenoic Acid (EPA) 720 mg
Docosahexaenoic Acid (DHA) 480 mg

now for impurties i checked into it.....i sent them an email....this is what i got back...

All of our Fish Oils typically test out with undetectable levels of heavy
metal and Pesticide contaminants.
We take special care with all of our oils. For example we test vitamin E
products for impurities such as B(a)P that others miss.
Our Fish oils are primarily from Sardines, Anchovies, and Mackerel and are
processed in Norway.
See the included link and chart on most of our oils.

Our New enteric coated Fish oil and Lemon Liquid are molecularly distilled.
MaxEPA is steamed distilled. The others such as SuperEPA, DHA, Omega-3 and
Salmon oil use Absorbent Technology Purification. Though the DHA & Omega-3's
are third party tested we have not put that on our labels yet. We specify
total heavy metals including lead be less than 10 parts per million for all
of our oils including the cod liver oils. One analysis on file shows
pesticides, PCBs, and heavy metals to be undetectable. Mercury for example
must be <1 part per million and the analysis shows undetectability meaning
<.05 ppm.

Thanks for your question,
NOW FOODS Quality Assurance
 
That's interesting stuff, BigRagu. I know that NOW at least USED TO have a serious quality control problem. Their products never had what their labels claimed they had. Their products were always half the price of everything else but "now" we know why.

I assume it's possible they may have cleaned up their act, but considering their prices haven't increased, I'd be really skeptical that the quality of their products increased. JMHO, but I would never buy another NOW product and I recommend my clients avoid them as well.
 
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